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  1. Yup,

    me and the brick (my Canon G5)... or should that be "my
    brick and I" have at last been able to collate our findings
    after a few outings of late and offer the following for your
    delectation:

    Simonside from just this past mid-week :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    The sunset on the above evening was amazing with "curtains"
    of shafts of red sunlight highlighting various permutations
    of the hills in the distance. Needless to say I failed to
    capture this on film :-( ...anyone know how? Polarising
    filter praps?

    And a few in the miscellany section :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    The "St Mary's" pano is the most pleasing and the most
    infuriating, whilst the "Bolam" series (sic.) are 'new to
    the web' but taken a few weeks ago.

    Wouldn't say no to a little feedback, spot any obvious
    bloopers? The "pano in IR" is false IR and I deliberately
    'forced' the IR effect, does it work?

    SteveO

    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    thenmc.org.ukindex.php

    NMC website: thenmc.org.ukthenmc.org.uk

  2. Steve Orrell said:

    me and the brick (my Canon G5)...

    Your lightweight rectangle of plastic.

    Quoted message said:

    or should that be "my brick and I"

    I wish I still had a tiny pocket camera like that
    which I could carry anywhere without realising I was
    carrying anything.

    Quoted message said:

    have at last been able to collate our findings after a few
    outings of late and offer the following for your
    delectation:

    Simonside from just this past mid-week :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    Would would be the album 10 page?

    Quoted message said:

    The sunset on the above evening was amazing with
    "curtains" of shafts of red sunlight highlighting various
    permutations of the hills in the distance.

    Like these? wilderness-wales.co.uk0212170051
    75.jpg wilderness-wales.co.uktbhts75.jpg
    wilderness-wales.co.uktbhts75.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    Needless to say I failed to capture this on film :-(
    ...anyone know how?

    Point a camera at it?

    Quoted message said:

    Polarising filter praps?

    No. To be honest I've never had any problem capturing them.
    A good exposure would help.

    One common feature in most of your shots is my pet hate,
    overexposure,
    i.e. burnt-out skies. I know, I know, auto exposure. I'd
    recommend you take an exposure reading off the sky to
    avoid burning out the clouds. Don't worry about the
    foreground looking dark, you can easily lighten it
    later, but you can't recover detail in the clouds if
    you over-expose the picture.

    Did you take these pics in RAW mode by any chance? If so
    then it will be possible to recover some of the burnt out
    detail, but probably not all of it.

    As for photographing a sunset, if the sun isn't hidden by
    clouds then that's a lot more tricky. The brightness of the
    sun is vastly greater than the rest of the picture. Best to
    take the shot when the sun is hidden behind clouds or when
    only a tiny amount is showing. If you expose for an unhidden
    sun the rest of the pic will come out very dark. The lower
    the sun gets the darker it gets. (Film is actually better
    for a bright sun since a bright sun burns out more smoothly
    than digital where you get a sharp transition to white.)

    Quoted message said:

    And a few in the miscellany section :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    That's the same link! Your links are very confusing. I've
    just noticed another Simonside link lower down the page. It
    says "Owner: Steve O", so I was obviously looking at the
    wrong ones then! Sorry!

    These are much better! Photos rather than snaps! ;-)

    The Boulder face pano is very nice. Slightly over-exposed
    clouds in the top left but I can just about put up with
    that. RAW mode by any chance?

    Quite nice sunset shots but still some nasty burnout on the
    sun. I'd really take the effort to expose for the bright
    area and sod how dark the rest of the picture comes out.
    Since the sun is the most important part of the picture it
    really shouldn't be burnt out like that. In one problematic
    sunset I took different exposures, some very dark, then
    pasted the correctly exposed sun from one onto the burnt out
    area in another.

    I can see the shafts in the second sunset pic. They're quite
    faint. Perhaps a darker exposure would have brought them out
    more clearly.

    The climber topping out is very nice. Not quite the rule of
    thirds but what the heck! I like it. The sky is interesting
    enough to support a
    50/50 composition in this case IMNSHO. As fp

    Quoted message said:

    The "St Mary's" pano is the most pleasing and the most
    infuriating, whilst the "Bolam" series (sic.) are 'new to
    the web' but taken a few weeks ago.

    I really don't know what you're talking about here. Maybe a
    different page that I didn't manage to find.

    Quoted message said:

    Wouldn't say no to a little feedback, spot any obvious
    bloopers?

    Not apart from the niggly burnt out sun.

    Quoted message said:

    The "pano in IR" is false IR and I deliberately 'forced'
    the IR effect, does it work?

    That's pretty cool actually. Not strictly IR, more like a
    polarised red filter. The grass isn't white enough for IR.

    Do you have an IR filter yet? Get one. Pricey but great
    fun. Ask for a Hoya Infrared (R72). About £30 (you'll need
    a lens adapter to attach it to, £15 if you haven't already
    got one). You'll also need a tripod, 15 second exposures
    are typical.

    Paul
    --
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  3. On Mon, 31 May 2004 15:56:05 +0100, Steve Orrell wrote:

    Sorry, mucho broken links :-(

    Quoted message said:

    Simonside from just this past mid-week :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    thenmc.org.ukSimonsideMay2004

    Quoted message said:

    And a few in the miscellany section :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    The "St Mary's" pano is the most pleasing and the most
    infuriating, whilst the "Bolam" series (sic.) are 'new to
    the web' but taken a few weeks ago.

    thenmc.org.ukNorthumberland (St Mary's
    and Bolam)

    SteveO

    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    thenmc.org.ukindex.php

    NMC website: thenmc.org.ukthenmc.org.uk

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Steve Orrell said:

    issa brick I tell you, a brick!!

    Buy a 300D, then tell me it's a brick!

    300D - a very nice Engineering brick though :-)
    --
    Bill Grey billboy.co.ukbillboy.co.uk

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Mark South said:

    Since I own a 7x5 studio monorail camera with a standard
    lens weighing far more than a Canon G5 and a tripod that
    weighs about 30 lb, I am confident that I cannot easily
    be bluffed in this game :-)

    Okay, you win.

    aul
    --


    Definitely - now that's REAL photography.
    --
    Bill Grey billboy.co.ukbillboy.co.uk

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Mark South
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So what are you going to carry all my photo gear in?

    Pah. A teeny little EOS 300D barely needs any space at all.

    Yeah but that is only ONE camera. How many do you think
    Paul carries around on a walk ? Oh yes, not forgetting
    the lenses!
    --
    Bill Grey billboy.co.ukbillboy.co.uk

  7. In a recent message <[email hidden]>, a
    <[email hidden]> wrote.

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    ahhhh, I was early-on tempted to chime in about my old
    Kodak/Century 8x10 wooden box. It travels in it's own panel-
    load backpack.


    [...]

    f/stop 64?

    Regards, Nick.
    --
    Nick Hopton and Anne Hopton Caversham, Reading, England
    <[email hidden]

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, ste©
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    | yawn!

    How can you find that boring Ian, what's up with ya? :-)


    He's a walker as in uk.rec walking :-)
    --
    Bill Grey billboy.co.ukbillboy.co.uk

  9. Paul Saunders said:
    Steve Orrell said:

    me and the brick (my Canon G5)...

    Your lightweight rectangle of plastic.

    Quoted message said:

    or should that be "my brick and I"

    I wish I still had a tiny pocket camera like that which I
    could carry anywhere without realising I was carrying
    anything.

    issa brick I tell you, a brick!!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Simonside from just this past mid-week :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    Would would be the album 10 page?

    thenmc.org.ukSimonsideMay2004

    <doh!> doncha just hate ccut an dp asste

    (Paul, quick nurt, I'm just here just mending the links, be
    back later ;-)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And a few in the miscellany section :
    thenmc.org.ukview album.php

    That's the same link! Your links are very confusing.

    'pologies:

    thenmc.org.ukNorthumberland (St Mary's
    and Bolam)

    Absolutely no idea how I managed to make such a pig's ear of
    those links sorry y'all

    SteveO

    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    thenmc.org.ukindex.php

    NMC website: thenmc.org.ukthenmc.org.uk

  10. Steve Orrell said:
    Quoted message said:

    The "St Mary's" pano is the most pleasing and the most
    infuriating,

    Why infuriating? Looks very nice to me.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    whilst the "Bolam" series (sic.) are 'new to the web' but
    taken a few weeks ago.

    Shaftoe Silhouette - very nice. Pity the cirrus at the top
    wasn't in completely clear air (as it were) but still very
    nice all the same.

    Shaftoe - quite nice but not so much as the one above. Too
    much clear air at the top. I've have pointed the camera
    lower and gone for a really tight crop at the top.

    East Shaftoe Pond - Quite nice but a bit on the blue side.
    I'd darken the sky a bit and remove some blue from the land.

    Bolam Woodland - This is pretty ordinary. Technically fine
    but with nothing to grab the attention. This may be a good
    time to point out one of Galen Rowell's principles. It may
    be the one he called "visual sea level", or maybe not, I'm
    not 100% sure offhand, but it refers to choosing an element
    within your picture which all other elements relate to.

    I was never terribly confident about shooting a random
    section of woodland, such as in your pic above, but the way
    Galen would do it would be to choose a particular tree that
    stood out from the crowd, and compose the picture with that
    tree as the centre of attention. So instead of just shooting
    a collection of random trees, you instead shoot a *special*
    tree amongst others.

    Sometimes a photo of many similar things can work, as a
    "pattern" of sorts, but I don't think it does in this case.
    There aren't really enough trees for a pattern type of pic
    and none of them stand out as being the main focus of
    attention.

    Bolam Woodland 2 - Hmm... Better if the green leaved tree to
    the right were further to the right, and in focus.

    Bolam Shore - Very nice composition. Be better if the sky
    were a bit darker. Contrast masking would work well in this
    situation.

    Bolam Lake - Excellent! It would be even better if you had
    the bottom of the reflection of the reeds.

    Bolam Sunset - Quite nice, but a burnt out sun.

    Paul
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  11. Steve Orrell said:

    issa brick I tell you, a brick!!

    Buy a 300D, then tell me it's a brick!

    Paul
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  12. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Steve Orrell said:

    issa brick I tell you, a brick!!

    A special, ultralightweight, helium-filled brick.

    Quoted message said:

    Buy a 300D, then tell me it's a brick!

    I see your 300D and raise you one Mamiyaflex.
    --
    Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

  13. Mark South said:

    "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Steve Orrell said:

    issa brick I tell you, a brick!!

    A special, ultralightweight, helium-filled brick.

    Quoted message said:

    Buy a 300D, then tell me it's a brick!

    I see your 300D and raise you one Mamiyaflex.

    I await Paul's raise of a Mamiya Press :-)
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
    "Westminster Gasworks"
    95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

  14. Mark South said:
    Quoted message said:

    Buy a 300D, then tell me it's a brick!

    I see your 300D and raise you one Mamiyaflex.

    I thought we were going to do the 1Ds next...

    Paul
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  15. Phil Cook said:
    Quoted message said:

    I see your 300D and raise you one Mamiyaflex.

    I await Paul's raise of a Mamiya Press :-)

    You just did on my behalf. Thanks Phil.

    Paul
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  16. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    | Mark South wrote:
    |
    | >> Buy a 300D, then tell me it's a brick!
    | >
    | > I see your 300D and raise you one Mamiyaflex.
    |
    | I thought we were going to do the 1Ds next...
    |
    | Paul

    Did you see the size of that Fuji S2 Pro D-SLR? That was
    quite big, though it's based on a Canon body I think.

    Ste

  17. "Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mark South said:

    "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Steve Orrell wrote:

    > issa brick I tell you, a brick!!

    A special, ultralightweight, helium-filled brick.

    Quoted message said:

    Buy a 300D, then tell me it's a brick!

    I see your 300D and raise you one Mamiyaflex.

    I await Paul's raise of a Mamiya Press :-)

    I raise you one Kodak 8x10 field camera made entirely of
    steel and glass! And yes, I have actually taken pictures
    with it in the field.

    Since I own a 7x5 studio monorail camera with a standard
    lens weighing far more than a Canon G5 and a tripod that
    weighs about 30 lb, I am confident that I cannot easily be
    bluffed in this game :-)
    --
    Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

  18. Mark South said:

    Since I own a 7x5 studio monorail camera with a standard
    lens weighing far more than a Canon G5 and a tripod that
    weighs about 30 lb, I am confident that I cannot easily be
    bluffed in this game :-)

    Okay, you win.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  19. ste© said:

    Did you see the size of that Fuji S2 Pro D-SLR?

    No.

    Click - Google - Click - dpreview

    Hmm, yes, a bit bigger than a 300D.

    Quoted message said:

    That was quite big,

    Not as big as a 1Ds.

    Paul
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  20. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mark South said:

    Since I own a 7x5 studio monorail camera with a standard
    lens weighing far more than a Canon G5 and a tripod that
    weighs about 30 lb, I am confident that I cannot easily
    be bluffed in this game :-)

    Okay, you win.

    In regard to your your graciousness, next time you come to
    my neck of the woods we'll take it out and take a shot or
    two of the landscape.

    You can carry the tripod :-)
    --
    Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

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