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  1. Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

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    _tophead_3

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    Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W
    simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.net

  2. Quoted message said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    n_tophead_3

    Will Irdial also be suing Boards Of Canada, then? There's a
    sample of one of the Conet Project tracks on one of the
    tracks on their "Geogaddi" album...

    Mark

  3. "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:At-
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    n_tophead_3

    "Mason may be maintaining a Zen exterior."

    You just take your frustrations out on us then? :-)

    Graeme

  4. Simon Mason said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    n_tophead_3

    IANAL, of course, but

    | "All that money I could have made if I had copyrighted
    | them!" Mason wrote. "Since I gave Akin the recordings
    | willingly for nothing, I don't have any come back.

    isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the
    recordings, then it's yours. You don't need to do anything
    to copyright it, it just exists. Further, unless you
    formally handed over the copyright to him, rather than
    merely gave him license to use the recordings, the copyright
    is still yours.

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith "I've had pretty
    good success with Stan by throwing him my best pitch and
    backing up third." - Carl Erskine

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    n_tophead_3

    Interesting but...

    <rant> '"phonetic alphabet" letters -- the abbreviations
    pilots use ("alpha" for a, "bravo" for b and so on).'

    It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used in
    dictionarys to demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word
    allowing pronunciation. </rant>

    What will you be buying with your royalties Simon?

    Jon

  6. Quoted message said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    _tophead_3

    Should I be donning the celeste tutu and wielding the slabs
    on your behalf???

    Cheers, helen s ;-)

    --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get
    correct one remove fame & fortune
    h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$

    --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel
    is switched off--

  7. Keith Willoughby said:

    isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the
    recordings, then it's yours. You don't need to do anything
    to copyright it, it just exists. Further, unless you
    formally handed over the copyright to him, rather than
    merely gave him license to use the recordings, the
    copyright is still yours.

    At least until the Men In Black turn up to say "Well,
    actually it was *our* broadcast tape"... 🙂

    Regards,

    -david

  8. "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    =wn_tophead_3

    Will Irdial also be suing Boards Of Canada, then? There's
    a sample of one


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the Conet Project tracks on one of the tracks on their
    "Geogaddi" album...

    and Stereolab, Porcupine Tree and the film makers behind
    Vanilla Sky!

    --
    Simon M.

  9. "dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    wn_tophead_3

    Should I be donning the celeste tutu and wielding the
    slabs on your


    behalf???

    No, but thanks for the offer H. I'm kicking myself more
    for the fact that when I moved house in 2000, I didn't
    need to sell my old one and kept it empty for 6 months.
    After that time I had to start paying council tax on it
    again, so I sold it for 30k. The same houses are now
    going for 105k! That's what hurts most ;-)

    Still, I wouldn't trade being fit and healthy for
    105k, much.
    --
    Simon M.

  10. "David Nutter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Keith Willoughby said:

    isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the
    recordings, then it's yours. You don't need to do
    anything to copyright it, it just exists. Further,
    unless you formally handed over the copyright to him,
    rather than merely gave him license to use the
    recordings, the copyright is still yours.

    At least until the Men In Black turn up to say "Well,
    actually it was


    *our*

    Quoted message said:

    broadcast tape"... 🙂

    Ah you see we are safe there as according to the spooks,
    these stations do not exist!

    --
    Simon M.

  11. "Jon Senior" <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote
    in message

    Quoted message said:


    What will you be buying with your royalties Simon?

    A packet of polo mints I think.

  12. Keith Willoughby said:
    Simon Mason said:

    Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

    wired.com0,1412,63952,00.html
    wn_tophead_3

    IANAL, of course, but

    Quoted message said:

    "All that money I could have made if I had copyrighted
    them!" Mason wrote. "Since I gave Akin the recordings
    willingly for nothing, I don't have any come back.

    isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the
    recordings, then it's yours. You don't need to do anything
    to copyright it, it just exists. Further, unless you
    formally handed over the copyright to him, rather than
    merely gave him license to use the recordings, the
    copyright is still yours.

    I agree. Even if you gave him permission to use them in his
    recordings, you didn't give t'other lot permission and
    therefore they were breaching your copyright, not his
    (unless they also included significant sections of his own
    work). Copyright is an automatic right, there is no need to
    register it like there is with a patent. Can you prove the
    "stolen" track is your recording and not one he made as he
    claims? Presumably if it includes a random sequence of
    letters, the probability of him being able to record exactly
    the same sequence as you had would be very low.

    Tony

  13. Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used in
    dictionarys to demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word
    allowing pronunciation.

    It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but it
    is generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and that's how
    it was described when I had to learn ot for gliding. See:

    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    or (full link):

    http://www.scphi-" rel="ugc nofollow noopener">scphillips.comindex.html
    llips.com/morse/alphabet.html

    --
    Dave...

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,
    dkahn400 @yahoo.co.uk says...

    Quoted message said:

    It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but
    it is generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and
    that's how it was described when I had to learn ot for
    gliding. See:

    I know this. I had the argument with a friend at university
    who had also learnt it as such. Despite this, I attempt to
    correct as many people as possible in the vain hope that one
    day people will understand what "phonetic" means. I can't
    remember what its official title is, but when my father
    learnt it in the military they didn't use "phonetic".

    Jon

  15. Dave Kahn said:

    Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote
    in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used in
    dictionarys to demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word
    allowing pronunciation.

    It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but
    it is generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and
    that's how it was described when I had to learn ot for
    gliding. See:

    As you say, although its not phonetic, phonetic alphabet is
    what it is universally known as.

    Tony

  16. Jon Senior said:


    Despite this, I attempt to correct as many people as
    possible in the vain hope that one day people will
    understand what "phonetic" means.

    I think most of us know what phonetic means and manage to
    cope.

    Quoted message said:

    I can't remember what its official title is, but when my
    father learnt it in the military they didn't use
    "phonetic".

    Do you really want to know? The NATO Phonetic Alphabet.
    Sorry en.wikipedia.orgNATO phonetic alphabet

    Tony

  17. Tony Raven said:
    Dave Kahn said:

    Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote
    in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used
    in dictionarys to demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word
    allowing pronunciation.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but
    it is generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and
    that's how it was described when I had to learn ot for
    gliding. See:

    Quoted message said:

    As you say, although its not phonetic, phonetic alphabet is
    what it is universally known as.

    Language is like that. Cycling safety helmets is
    another example.

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  18. Jon Senior said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
    @yahoo.co.uk says...

    Quoted message said:

    It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but
    it is generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and
    that's how it was described when I had to learn ot for
    gliding. See:

    I know this. I had the argument with a friend at
    university who had also learnt it as such. Despite this,
    I attempt to correct as many people as possible in the
    vain hope that one day people will understand what
    "phonetic" means.

    The first definition from the 1913 Webster's Revised
    Unabridged Dictionary is " 1. Of or pertaining to the voice,
    or its use."

    The NATO Phonetic Alphabet is used to spell out words. With
    the voice.

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith "It ain't the
    heat, it's the humility."
    - Yogi Berra

  19. Chris Malcolm said:


    Language is like that. Cycling safety helmets is another
    example.

    I think we should start a campaign to educate people that
    Ordinary bicycles are not ordinary and that Ordnance Survey
    maps are not a catalogue of military supplies. Tricky stuff
    this language.

    Tony

  20. In article <[email hidden]>, junk@raven-
    family.com says...

    Quoted message said:

    I think most of us know what phonetic means and manage
    to cope.

    You'd be surprised! As I said, I was involved in an
    argument over this with a university student. A large
    number of people who encountered this "phonetic alphabet"
    relatively early in life ended up thinking that that was
    the meaning of phonetic.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I can't remember what its official title is, but when my
    father learnt it in the military they didn't use
    "phonetic".

    Do you really want to know? The NATO Phonetic Alphabet.
    Sorry en.wikipedia.orgNATO phonetic alphabet

    Gah! That wasn't what they called it at the time.

    Jon

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