OT Where's my royalties?

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Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3

Will Irdial also be suing Boards Of Canada, then? There's a sample of one of
the Conet Project tracks on one of the tracks on their "Geogaddi" album...

Mark

"Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:At-
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Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3

"Mason may be maintaining a Zen exterior."

You just take your frustrations out on us then? :-)

Graeme

Simon Mason said:

Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3

IANAL, of course, but

| "All that money I could have made if I had copyrighted them!" Mason
| wrote. "Since I gave Akin the recordings willingly for nothing, I
| don't have any come back.

isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the recordings,
then it's yours. You don't need to do anything to copyright it, it just
exists. Further, unless you formally handed over the copyright to him,
rather than merely gave him license to use the recordings, the copyright
is still yours.

--
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backing up third." - Carl Erskine

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Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

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Interesting but...

<rant>
'"phonetic alphabet" letters -- the abbreviations pilots use ("alpha"
for a, "bravo" for b and so on).'

It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used in dictionarys to
demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word allowing pronunciation.
</rant>

What will you be buying with your royalties Simon?

Jon

Quoted message said:

Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

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Should I be donning the celeste tutu and wielding the slabs on your behalf???

Cheers, helen s ;-)

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Keith Willoughby said:

isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the recordings,
then it's yours. You don't need to do anything to copyright it, it just
exists. Further, unless you formally handed over the copyright to him,
rather than merely gave him license to use the recordings, the copyright
is still yours.

At least until the Men In Black turn up to say "Well, actually it was *our*
broadcast tape"... 🙂

Regards,

-david

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3

Will Irdial also be suing Boards Of Canada, then? There's a sample of one

of

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the Conet Project tracks on one of the tracks on their "Geogaddi" album...

and Stereolab, Porcupine Tree and the film makers behind Vanilla Sky!

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"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3

Should I be donning the celeste tutu and wielding the slabs on your

behalf???

No, but thanks for the offer H. I'm kicking myself more for the fact
that when I moved house in 2000, I didn't need to sell my old one and kept
it empty for 6 months. After that time I had to start paying council tax on
it again, so I sold it for 30k. The same houses are now going for 105k!
That's what hurts most ;-)

Still, I wouldn't trade being fit and healthy for 105k, much.
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"David Nutter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Keith Willoughby said:

isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the recordings,
then it's yours. You don't need to do anything to copyright it, it just
exists. Further, unless you formally handed over the copyright to him,
rather than merely gave him license to use the recordings, the copyright
is still yours.

At least until the Men In Black turn up to say "Well, actually it was

*our*

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broadcast tape"... 🙂

Ah you see we are safe there as according to the spooks, these stations do
not exist!

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"Jon Senior" <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote in message

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What will you be buying with your royalties Simon?

A packet of polo mints I think.

Keith Willoughby said:

Simon Mason said:

Yours truly is involved in this bizzare law suit!

http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3

IANAL, of course, but

Quoted message said:

"All that money I could have made if I had copyrighted them!" Mason
wrote. "Since I gave Akin the recordings willingly for nothing, I
don't have any come back.

isn't true. If he's correct that copyright exists in the recordings,
then it's yours. You don't need to do anything to copyright it, it just
exists. Further, unless you formally handed over the copyright to him,
rather than merely gave him license to use the recordings, the copyright
is still yours.

I agree. Even if you gave him permission to use them in his recordings, you
didn't give t'other lot permission and therefore they were breaching your
copyright, not his (unless they also included significant sections of his own
work). Copyright is an automatic right, there is no need to register it like
there is with a patent. Can you prove the "stolen" track is your recording and
not one he made as he claims? Presumably if it includes a random sequence of
letters, the probability of him being able to record exactly the same sequence
as you had would be very low.

Tony

Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used in dictionarys to
demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word allowing pronunciation.

It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but it is
generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and that's how it was
described when I had to learn ot for gliding. See:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1EB225A8

or (full link):

http://www.scphillips.com/morse/index.html?http://www.scphillips.com/morse/alphabet.html

--
Dave...

In article <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
@yahoo.co.uk says...

Quoted message said:

It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but it is
generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and that's how it was
described when I had to learn ot for gliding. See:

I know this. I had the argument with a friend at university who had also
learnt it as such. Despite this, I attempt to correct as many people as
possible in the vain hope that one day people will understand what
"phonetic" means. I can't remember what its official title is, but when
my father learnt it in the military they didn't use "phonetic".

Jon

Dave Kahn said:

Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used in dictionarys to
demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word allowing pronunciation.

It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but it is
generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and that's how it was
described when I had to learn ot for gliding. See:

As you say, although its not phonetic, phonetic alphabet is what it is
universally known as.

Tony

Jon Senior said:

Despite this, I attempt to correct as many people as
possible in the vain hope that one day people will understand what
"phonetic" means.

I think most of us know what phonetic means and manage to cope.

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I can't remember what its official title is, but when
my father learnt it in the military they didn't use "phonetic".

Do you really want to know? The NATO Phonetic Alphabet. Sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet

Tony

Tony Raven said:

Dave Kahn said:

Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's not the "phonetic" alphabet. That is the one used in dictionarys to
demonstrate the "phonetics" of a word allowing pronunciation.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but it is
generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and that's how it was
described when I had to learn ot for gliding. See:

Quoted message said:

As you say, although its not phonetic, phonetic alphabet is what it is
universally known as.

Language is like that. Cycling safety helmets is another example.

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Chris Malcolm said:

Language is like that. Cycling safety helmets is another example.

I think we should start a campaign to educate people that Ordinary bicycles
are not ordinary and that Ordnance Survey maps are not a catalogue of military
supplies. Tricky stuff this language.

Tony

Jon Senior said:

In article <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
@yahoo.co.uk says...

Quoted message said:

It's certainly not a phonetic alphabet in that sense but it is
generally known as the phonetic alphabet, and that's how it was
described when I had to learn ot for gliding. See:

I know this. I had the argument with a friend at university who had also
learnt it as such. Despite this, I attempt to correct as many people as
possible in the vain hope that one day people will understand what
"phonetic" means.

The first definition from the 1913 Webster's Revised Unabridged
Dictionary is " 1. Of or pertaining to the voice, or its use."

The NATO Phonetic Alphabet is used to spell out words. With the voice.

--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
"It ain't the heat, it's the humility."
- Yogi Berra

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

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I think most of us know what phonetic means and manage to cope.

You'd be surprised! As I said, I was involved in an argument over this
with a university student. A large number of people who encountered this
"phonetic alphabet" relatively early in life ended up thinking that that
was the meaning of phonetic.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I can't remember what its official title is, but when
my father learnt it in the military they didn't use "phonetic".

Do you really want to know? The NATO Phonetic Alphabet. Sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet

Gah! That wasn't what they called it at the time.

Jon