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  1. There seems to be some knowledgeable people on this forum hence it being
    a good place to ask the following question.

    I have an old XP machine with a 60GB disk and a new XP machine with a
    500GB disk. If I create a additional partition on the new machine that
    will hold a disk image of the old machine is there any way I can boot it
    up whilst the new machine is running by using a virtual machine?

    I want to avoid the hassle of rebooting the new machine and selecting a
    different partition whenever I want the "old machine" can start up.

    Thanks.

  2. Rob Horton yahoo@mr_horton.com said:

    There seems to be some knowledgeable people on this forum hence it being
    a good place to ask the following question.

    I have an old XP machine with a 60GB disk and a new XP machine with a
    500GB disk. If I create a additional partition on the new machine that
    will hold a disk image of the old machine is there any way I can boot it
    up whilst the new machine is running by using a virtual machine?

    I want to avoid the hassle of rebooting the new machine and selecting a
    different partition whenever I want the "old machine" can start up.

    Thanks.

    Sounds like you need VMWare workstation

  3. Microsoft were giving away Virtual Server and Virtual PC not so long ago,
    perhaps those are still available. FWIW, I have Virtual Server running on
    an XP Pro machine with lots of RAM. This works well, although I understand
    that Virtual PC would be better. However, the virtual machine won't have
    the same hardware as your old machine, and so you probably won't be able to
    boot it from a copy of the old hard disk. Instead, you'll need to install
    the OS and application software from the old machine.

  4. "Geoff Lane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Microsoft were giving away Virtual Server and Virtual PC not so long ago,
    perhaps those are still available. FWIW, I have Virtual Server running on
    an XP Pro machine with lots of RAM. This works well, although I understand
    that Virtual PC would be better. However, the virtual machine won't have
    the same hardware as your old machine, and so you probably won't be able
    to
    boot it from a copy of the old hard disk. Instead, you'll need to install
    the OS and application software from the old machine.

    I believe VMware offers an app to do the migration for you.

    cheers,
    clive

  5. On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:57:22 +0100, Rob Horton <yahoo@mr_horton.com>
    said in <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    There seems to be some knowledgeable people on this forum hence it being
    a good place to ask the following question.

    I have an old XP machine with a 60GB disk and a new XP machine with a
    500GB disk. If I create a additional partition on the new machine that
    will hold a disk image of the old machine is there any way I can boot it
    up whilst the new machine is running by using a virtual machine?

    I want to avoid the hassle of rebooting the new machine and selecting a
    different partition whenever I want the "old machine" can start up.

    I reckon you want VMware converter starter edition and a copy of
    VMware player, which are both SFP.

    Guy
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  6. Quoted message said:

    Hijacking this thread a teensy bit, I administer a couple of machines
    for a charity I volunteer for. One critical piece of software will not
    run
    unless the user has admin rights on the (XP) machine.

    Doh!

    Quoted message said:

    Can I install a VM with a user who has admin rights on the VM, but
    running as a normal user on the underlying instance of XP?

    It's going to depend on why the app needs admin rights, and to what.
    There are other options to sort that kind of thing out too, like running
    the app using a different account's credentials (without needing the
    virtual machine at all), or setting appropriate permissions on the
    things a normal user can't get at (if that doesn't just bork the
    machine's security). So the short answer is yes to running the app with
    admin inside the VM, but whether the app can do what it needs to from
    inside the VM is another question, as is whether a VM is the most
    appropriate solution. Some more details might help get a better answer.
    Other things to try are granting the user admin rights to install it
    then seeing how it runs when the admin rights are removed. Often its
    only the installation which needs admin, or you might find out from the
    error message what it is that it needs admin rights to.

    --
    JimP

  7. Quoted message said:
    you know? said:
    Quoted message said:

    I want to avoid the hassle of rebooting the new machine and selecting a
    different partition whenever I want the "old machine" can start up.

    I reckon you want VMware converter starter edition and a copy of
    VMware player, which are both SFP.

    Hijacking this thread a teensy bit, I administer a couple of machines
    for a charity I volunteer for. One critical piece of software will not
    run
    unless the user has admin rights on the (XP) machine.

    Can I install a VM with a user who has admin rights on the VM, but
    running as a normal user on the underlying instance of XP?

    John

    yes virtual machine's will be fine with that as far as the version of XP
    thats the beauty of them, as far as the host version of XP is concned
    the VM is just a application.

    roger
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    www.rogermerriman.com

  8. Rob Horton said:

    There seems to be some knowledgeable people on this forum hence it being a
    good place to ask the following question.

    I have an old XP machine with a 60GB disk and a new XP machine with a
    500GB disk. If I create a additional partition on the new machine that
    will hold a disk image of the old machine is there any way I can boot it
    up whilst the new machine is running by using a virtual machine?

    I want to avoid the hassle of rebooting the new machine and selecting a
    different partition whenever I want the "old machine" can start up.

    Thanks.

    Virtualbox - free.

    Microsoft's offering is not as good and it has licensing issues.

    You wont even need a seperate partition. Whilst some virtual machines
    can use real disk images most people use image files which will not
    boot outside of the VM monitor.

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  9. On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:46:47 +0100

    Dead Paul said:

    Virtualbox - free.


    It's brilliant - I was playing with it a few weeks ago and it just
    works. I had a full-screen Windows XP VM running on one of my
    Linux desktops and really couldn't tell it wasn't running natively.

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