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  1. My question is. After being in existence for nearly 108 years, are the
    aims of UCI capable of hitting a dynamic 21st century moving target?

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

    From the UCI websites FAQ's section:

    FAQ - What are the aims of the UCI?

    The UCI Statutes specify that the aim of the UCI is:

    a) to direct, develop, regulate, control and discipline cycling under
    all forms worldwide;

    b) to promote cycling in all the countries of the world and at all
    levels;

    c) to organise, for all cycling sport disciplines, world championships
    of which it is the sole holder and owner;

    d) to encourage friendship between all members of the cycling world;

    e) to promote sportsmanship and fair play;
    f) to represent the sport of cycling and defend its interests before the
    International Olympic Committee and all national and international
    authorities;

    g) to cooperate with the International Olympic Committee, in particular
    as regards the participation of cyclists in the Olympic Games.
    ------------------------------------------------------

  2. I'm confused, does the "OT" in your subject line mean "On Topic"?

    The UCI should sanction amateur cycling races and leave professional
    racing to an organization that promotes professional cycling. I don't
    know where that second organization would come from.

    I'm interested in seeing if someone thinks the UCI is OK as is and how
    they'd support that position.

  3. Fred Fredburger said:

    I'm confused, does the "OT" in your subject line mean "On Topic"?

    The UCI should sanction amateur cycling races and leave professional
    racing to an organization that promotes professional cycling. I don't
    know where that second organization would come from.

    I'm interested in seeing if someone thinks the UCI is OK as is and how
    they'd support that position.

    I agree. Just like the NBA, NFL, NHL, etc.

    Joseph

  4. email hidden said:

    On Mar 2, 5:53 pm, Fred Fredburger

    Quoted message said:

    I'm confused, does the "OT" in your subject line mean "On Topic"?

    Quoted message said:

    The UCI should sanction amateur cycling races and leave professional
    racing to an organization that promotes professional cycling. I don't
    know where that second organization would come from.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm interested in seeing if someone thinks the UCI is OK as is and how
    they'd support that position.

    I agree. Just like the NBA, NFL, NHL, etc.

    Joseph

    Great. Then they could get hauled up in front of Congress like those
    jokers. Hell, they should anyway.

  5. mtb Dad said:
    email hidden said:

    On Mar 2, 5:53 pm, Fred Fredburger

    Quoted message said:

    I'm confused, does the "OT" in your subject line mean "On Topic"?
    The UCI should sanction amateur cycling races and leave professional
    racing to an organization that promotes professional cycling. I don't
    know where that second organization would come from.
    I'm interested in seeing if someone thinks the UCI is OK as is and how
    they'd support that position.


    I agree. Just like the NBA, NFL, NHL, etc.

    Joseph

    Great. Then they could get hauled up in front of Congress like those
    jokers. Hell, they should anyway.

    The thing that keeps that from happening NOW is that no one gives a [censored].

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Donald Munro said:
    mtb Dad said:

    Great. Then they could get hauled up in front of Congress like those
    jokers. Hell, they should anyway.

    [censored],
    One would have thought the US congress should be concerned about an
    economic recession, getting out of Iraq and sponsoring gregs
    primates rather than wasting its time on attempting to regulate an
    entertainment industry. Apart from which most of "they" aren't within the
    jurisdiction of the US congress.

    Like it's really important having a bunch of jocks get up and testify in front of
    congress (who usually spend much of the time fawning over the jocks).

    The good news is that, at long last, we've had the promised showers of flowers and
    sweets in Iraq. For Iran's Ahmahdinejad. Heckuva job, Bushie!

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Whatever happened to
    Leon Trotsky?
    He got an icepick
    That made his ears burn.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  7. Fred Fredburger said:

    The UCI should sanction amateur cycling races and leave professional
    racing to an organization that promotes professional cycling. I don't
    know where that second organization would come from.

    This is a plausible approach. For those who don't know the history,
    we've already been there and done that. I now think we should repeat
    that scenario but in a more sensible way. Here is a summary of cycling
    history from a U.S. perspective (mine, of course). Unfortunately it is
    full of alphabet soup.

    The first international cycling federation, called the International
    Cyclists Association (ICA), was founded in 1892 by racing organizations
    from Belgium, Canada, Denmark, England, France, Germany, Holland, and
    U.S.A. At that time U.S.A. racing was run by the original League of
    American Wheelmen (LAW), which had no connection with the later
    organizations that took that name. However ICA was dominated by the
    Brits, who arranged to have separate votes to England, Scotland,
    Ireland, and Wales.

    That imbalance eventually led to ICA's downfall when, in 1900, the
    International Cycling Union (UCI in French) was formed by cycling
    organizations from Belgium, France, Italy, Switzerland, and U.S.A. The
    U.S.A. organization by that time was the National Cycling Association
    (NCA), which had come to power in 1898 when clubs in Northern California
    initiated the overthrow of LAW. Brits and others were allowed to join
    UCI later.

    NCA was overthrown by the Amateur Bicycle League of American (ABLA) at
    the end of World War 2. NCA had been dominated by commercial interests
    that owned velodromes throughout the country and their corrupt control
    of six-day racing had resulted in a loss of public interest by the end
    of the 1930s, which meant they had no money.

    In 1965, UCI formed two subordinate organizations. FIAC for amateur
    cycling and FICP for pro competition. Note that this FIAC had no
    connection with the modern organization that uses those initials. In
    that era the Olympics were supposed to be strictly amateur but the
    Eastern Bloc countries soon made a mockery of that and the rest of the
    world began cheating in the same ways. As a result the Olympics soon
    came to be dominated by pros, just as had happened in the ancient
    Olympics 2,000 years ago.

    In 1975 ABLA changed its name to United States Cycling Federation (USCF)
    based on an alleged offer that it would control both amateur and
    professional cycling in the U.S. However that offer was then withdrawn
    and the U.S. Professional Racing Organization (USPRO) began developing
    pro cycling, though they were losing money big time.

    In 1992 UCI reunified the FIAC and FICP, merging them back into the UCI.
    Consistent with that, a reorganization of U.S. cycling was initiated in
    1993 (by me) to bring the various U.S. cycling bodies together in USA
    Cycling. However this reorganization got corrupted in the legislative
    process with the result that commercial interests now control USA
    Cycling and run it to suit themselves even though a large portion of
    their income derives from non-pro riders.

    I now believe that it would be in the best interests of the sport to
    resegregate pro and non-pro racing. Indeed, that is what I'm working on.
    For more on UCI history see
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Cycliste_Internationale

    -Les Earnest

  8. "Les Earnest" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I now believe that it would be in the best interests of the sport to
    resegregate pro and non-pro racing. Indeed, that is what I'm working on.
    For more on UCI history see
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Cycliste_Internationale

    I wish you the best of luck Les but history teaches us that the good never
    thrive in sports.

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