OT: sterling flatware

tammym said:

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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-L. said:

Sheldon wrote:
> -L. wrote:
> > Does anyone know of an inexpensive on-line source for sterling
> > flatware? The pattern I am looking for is made by International, if
> > that matters.
>
> Why would anyone want such a dinosaur? Do you have a live-in maid who
> is willing to spend hours tediously polishing... even housekeepers
> nowadays don't do that. Today there is such gorgeous stainless steel
> flatware, puts sterling to shame... and no one will steal your
> stainless, but guaranteed, guests will pocket pieces of sterling.
>
> Sheldon

Maybe your guests but not mine. 🙂

Nonsense. Anyone can and will steal your silver. It's exceedingly
rare guests won't go through your bathroom stuff too, and many will
take something, nail clippers, scissors, bars of soap, toothpaste, even
the aspirin... I've even had an ancient rectal thermometer stolen (no,
it wasn't monogrammed) and I know it had to be one of only two
people... all I could do is hope they enjoy it. I no longer keep
anything other than a couple cheapo hand towels, dispenser soap, and
one extra roll of TP in my guest bathroom... and yes, I've had TP taken
too.

Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends, and
acquaintances lift their stuff.

Another reason no one is permitted to help in my kitchen. I don't
permit guests to wander freely about my home either... they have no
business in my office and bedroom areas. I don't know about yoose but
I don't invite people to make themselves at home.

Sheldon

That's so sad, Sheldon. The only time anyone's stolen from me was when my
young (11 years old) cousin who took a pair of inexpensive earrings (and
was made to apologize for the theft when it was discovered.) I've even had
an rfc cook-in in my home with 40-ish people (most of whom I'd only
encountered online) and not only was nothing missing, but I was given a
number of nice hostess gifts in tribute to the hospitality.

Ever stop to think maybe you own nothing worth stealing... no one is
going to steal your fercocktah ancient mismatched stainless... they can
lift the same from Olive Garden, too.

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This must be an east coast phenomenon ;-)

So, you're saying ordinary west-coaster folks have no sterling.

When people haphazardly display valubles (like leaving cash, jewlery,
silver, collectibles, and such exposed) it's called an "attractive
nuisance". They're encouraging someone to partake and someone will,
and it's not 100% the thief's fault. I no longer leave valuables in
areas where I entertain guests and no longer permit guests in areas
where I keep valuables.

Sheldon (who finds it utterly amazing how many claim to lead such
perfectly sterile little lives and then come to rfc to whine about
every megative event that befalls them on a daily basis)

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On Tue 19 Jul 2005 12:50:28a, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Does anyone know of an inexpensive on-line source for sterling
> flatware? The pattern I am looking for is made by International, if
> that matters.

Inexpensive Sterling seems an oxymoron to me, but I have bought

additional

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pieces of our pattern at Upscale Gallery.

How true! I'm glad we're downsizing and I don't have to worry about that
any more. Silver went to one daughter, china to the other.

I don't think we have good silver, but there's mom's china set from when
she
and daddy were married, and the china cabinet. It would make sense if
they
go to me instead of my sister, since I actually entertain, but if sis
wants
them, I won't argue. Nothing is worth a broken relationship.

TammyM

That's why we are doing it now. Once we sell and downsize, which should be
soon we will have no need of the stuff any way. As I said, china to 1
daughter, silver to the other and the china cabinet w/ dining room suite to
my son.

Mom

Sheldon said:

Now you're grasping for straws, becoming disingenuous... is that the
same rationalization you used when your brother stole your virginity.

Sheldon

My brother is gay, Sheldon.

-L.

-L. said:

Sheldon said:

Now you're grasping for straws, becoming disingenuous... is that the
same rationalization you used when your brother stole your virginity.

Sheldon

My brother is gay, Sheldon.

And that stopped him how... prolly after you is why he stayed gay.

Lotsa gays experiment with woman, even marry women and father
children... sheesh, butt you're uneducated on the topic.
Incest between gay siblings (especially opposite sex) is quite
common... you'd be amazed at how many straight sister's/mothers try to
"fix" their brother's/son's gayness, and vice versa. Incest among
siblings where one is homosexual is far, far more prevalent than with
straight siblings... and incestuous relationships often continue
throughout a lifetime, they're the closest, most profound of human
relationships... the divorceless marriage.

Where sexuality is concerned there are no limits, whatever one can
imagine occurs, and more.

Where I lived on Lung Guyland in my very first house my neighbors
across the street were in their late seventies, a brother and two
sisters. They always introduced themselves as husband and wife and a
sister-inlaw. One day the "wife" passed on and without skipping a beat
the sister-inlaw was introduced as the Mrs. Not that it matters but
they were Italian immigrants, came to the US as teens and lived in that
house all their lives. They'd get well dressed every day, he in a
spiffy suit and they'd go for their walks about the neighborhood, all
three. Every Sunday and all holidays they'd attend the local RC
church. They were a very cute "couple" and very interesting
conversationalists, even with their *real* broken English. Oh, and the
best part, their children owned the next two houses as second homes
(they lived In Queens) that they used all summer and periodicaly
throuhgout the year. I never questioned their relationships, nor was
it ever addressed but everyone on Hallock Landing Road in Rocky Point,
NY knew... Rocky Point aka the Italian Alps.

I happen to have a great affinity with and respect for the Italian
immigrants, I grew up with them. But not the lying [censored] guido WOPS
who frequent rfc, Italians may speak broken English but I've never met
any who write broken English... there's a big difference between
gramatical error and purposely written syntax... these WOP dago
scumbags are all LIARS.

Sheldon (just because someone posts with an "it" ISP does not mean
they're not posting from Staten Island)

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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Tue 19 Jul 2005 12:50:28a, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Does anyone know of an inexpensive on-line source for sterling
>> flatware? The pattern I am looking for is made by International,
>> if that matters.
>
> Inexpensive Sterling seems an oxymoron to me, but I have bought
> additional pieces of our pattern at Upscale Gallery.
>
How true! I'm glad we're downsizing and I don't have to worry
about that any more. Silver went to one daughter, china to the
other.

I don't think we have good silver, but there's mom's china set from
when she
and daddy were married, and the china cabinet. It would make sense
if they
go to me instead of my sister, since I actually entertain, but if sis
wants
them, I won't argue. Nothing is worth a broken relationship.

TammyM

That's why we are doing it now. Once we sell and downsize, which
should be soon we will have no need of the stuff any way. As I said,
china to 1 daughter, silver to the other and the china cabinet w/
dining room suite to my son.

Mom

I remember a number of years ago my mom casually mentioned in front of my
brother I'd get her china. He said something like, "Why wouldn't you give
it to my wife?" Mom replied, "My daughter has always been my daughter.
I've only known your wife for a year." And sure enough, after less than 5
years of marriage his wife was no longer in the picture. Why not give it to
his wife, indeed! Now if *he* wants her china, that's a different thing.
He entertains, I don't. I'm already getting Mom's sterling and I have
Grandma's gaudy china. Okay, so I like Mom's plain white china with the
platinum rims better; but really, I don't need any more 🙂

Jill

jmcquown said:

I remember a number of years ago my mom casually mentioned in front of my
brother I'd get her china. He said something like, "Why wouldn't you give
it to my wife?" Mom replied, "My daughter has always been my daughter.
I've only known your wife for a year." And sure enough, after less than 5
years of marriage his wife was no longer in the picture. Why not give it to
his wife, indeed! Now if *he* wants her china, that's a different thing.
He entertains, I don't. I'm already getting Mom's sterling and I have
Grandma's gaudy china. Okay, so I like Mom's plain white china with the
platinum rims better; but really, I don't need any more 🙂

Why not give him grandma's and take Mom's china? Would he go for it?

sf said:

jmcquown said:

I remember a number of years ago my mom casually mentioned in front
of my brother I'd get her china. He said something like, "Why
wouldn't you give it to my wife?" Mom replied, "My daughter has
always been my daughter. I've only known your wife for a year."
And sure enough, after less than 5 years of marriage his wife was
no longer in the picture. Why not give it to his wife, indeed!
Now if *he* wants her china, that's a different thing. He
entertains, I don't. I'm already getting Mom's sterling and I have
Grandma's gaudy china. Okay, so I like Mom's plain white china
with the platinum rims better; but really, I don't need any more 🙂

Why not give him grandma's and take Mom's china? Would he go for it?

I don't think he likes it any more than I do! Mom has actually got two sets
of remaining china: her white china and a set of Noritake bamboo. He can
have what he likes. I don't have storage space for more dishes.

Jill

jmcquown said:

sf said:

jmcquown said:

I remember a number of years ago my mom casually mentioned in front
of my brother I'd get her china. He said something like, "Why
wouldn't you give it to my wife?" Mom replied, "My daughter has
always been my daughter. I've only known your wife for a year."

Why not give him grandma's and take Mom's china? Would he go for it?

I don't think he likes it any more than I do! Mom has actually got
two sets of remaining china: her white china and a set of Noritake
bamboo. He can have what he likes. I don't have storage space for
more dishes.

Jill

BUT! I get her jewelry collection, no doubt about it 🙂 That's one thing I
have a hard time passing up, especially the antique stuff.

Bob (this one) said:

I put your name in the header so you're somewhat standing in the light
now, instead of behind the falsity you've always tried to peddle as your
real name. If you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk. Since
the normal elements of civility are clearly beyond you, I thought it
would be good to show you how it comes back when you act the malicious
fool you are. Someone with better search skills than mine could find you
with that information. Perhaps they'd like to see your farm. Share a
cold one. Make jokes about squareheads and krauts and [censored] and
guineas. All people you admire and like...

Hey Bob, not to spoil your post(s) attacking sheldon but have you ever
thought that maybe he just enjoys pushing people's buttons? All the
words like "madness", "vile" and "insanity" aside, like maybe he really
gets a kick out of trying to [censored] you off. Trying to get under someone's
skin in a forum or a newsgroup can very much be played like a game, in
fact there's forums dedicated to just that (brawlhall.com), one that
basically boils down to who can write better than the other... with the
opponents playing whether they realize it or not.

~john

levelwave said:

Bob (this one) said:

I put your name in the header so you're somewhat standing in the
light now, instead of behind the falsity you've always tried to
peddle as your real name. If you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta
walk the walk.

Hey Bob, not to spoil your post(s) attacking sheldon but have you ever
thought that maybe he just enjoys pushing people's buttons?
~john

Gee, John, you're just now figuring this out?!

Jill

On Thu 21 Jul 2005 05:25:16p, levelwave wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Bob (this one) said:

I put your name in the header so you're somewhat standing in the light
now, instead of behind the falsity you've always tried to peddle as your
real name. If you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk. Since
the normal elements of civility are clearly beyond you, I thought it
would be good to show you how it comes back when you act the malicious
fool you are. Someone with better search skills than mine could find you
with that information. Perhaps they'd like to see your farm. Share a
cold one. Make jokes about squareheads and krauts and [censored] and
guineas. All people you admire and like...

Hey Bob, not to spoil your post(s) attacking sheldon but have you ever
thought that maybe he just enjoys pushing people's buttons? All the
words like "madness", "vile" and "insanity" aside, like maybe he really
gets a kick out of trying to [censored] you off. Trying to get under someone's
skin in a forum or a newsgroup can very much be played like a game, in
fact there's forums dedicated to just that (brawlhall.com), one that
basically boils down to who can write better than the other... with the
opponents playing whether they realize it or not.

~john

Whatever the reason, John, the behavior is contrary to what almost anyone
would consider acceptable or appropriate. It's nothing I care to ever
debate again, but it clearly isn't "normal" for anyone to behave in that
manner.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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jmcquown said:

Gee, John, you're just now figuring this out?!

Sometimes you just have to state the obvious Jill... obviously.

~john

levelwave said:

Bob (this one) said:

I put your name in the header so you're somewhat standing in the light
now, instead of behind the falsity you've always tried to peddle as
your real name. If you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta walk the
walk. Since the normal elements of civility are clearly beyond you, I
thought it would be good to show you how it comes back when you act
the malicious fool you are. Someone with better search skills than
mine could find you with that information. Perhaps they'd like to see
your farm. Share a cold one. Make jokes about squareheads and krauts
and [censored] and guineas. All people you admire and like...

Hey Bob, not to spoil your post(s) attacking sheldon but have you ever
thought that maybe he just enjoys pushing people's buttons? All the
words like "madness", "vile" and "insanity" aside, like maybe he really
gets a kick out of trying to [censored] you off.

Sure he does, John. And since I don't like his methods or what sadly
appears to be his genuine ugly, ugly motivation, and since it's an open
forum, he can say what he wants to and I can say what I want to. What a
country, huh...?

If Sheldon is of the mind that the stuff he writes here is fun and
getting responses is a good thing, imagine how satisfied he must be when
I point out that what impels him is so anti-social as to be
pathological. The thrill he must feel after being replied to warms my
heart, cocklewise, and is all the reward I need for helping him out. And
when I say his actions prove his demented, psychopathic malice, just
picture the big smile on his face. I live to make him happy.

Actually, Shecky and I are the best of friends and we're co-conspirators
in this. He oozes his primordial sewage and I sweep it back into the top
of his open head. Recycling, doncha know. Except the portion we use for
fertilizer. And look how green his entire farm is. Grade "A" stuff, I
tell ya...

I also enjoy when he deliberately posts stupid "information" that fairly
begs for correction. So, as long as he invites me to play like that, I
know he enjoys the little verbal nuclear explosions I set off under his
copious ass. It's all very friendly at heart.

Quoted message said:

Trying to get under someone's
skin in a forum or a newsgroup can very much be played like a game, in
fact there's forums dedicated to just that (brawlhall.com), one that
basically boils down to who can write better than the other... with the
opponents playing whether they realize it or not.

He wouldn't do well there. Sadly, writing skill isn't something he's
been blessed with. Mostly he does that "yoose" and name calling stuff as
though it were actually witty. But I admire his tenacity in the face of
diminished faculties.

No, seriously...

But he truly is nuts.

Pastorio

Bob Pastorio from Virginia replied to Sheldon Katz from upstate New York:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(just because someone posts with an "it" ISP does not mean
they're not posting from Staten Island)

This from our resident AOL internet wizard.

Hey...how come you never see Bob and Pandora at the same time? :-)

Bob

Bob said:

Bob Pastorio from Virginia replied to Sheldon Katz from upstate New York:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(just because someone posts with an "it" ISP does not mean
they're not posting from Staten Island)

This from our resident AOL internet wizard.

Hey...how come you never see Bob and Pandora at the same time? :-)

Damn. Saw right through it. I was faking it to draw Shecky out so he'd
say some stupid [censored] so I could once again point out to him what a
completely full colostomy bag he is.

Hooked him on the first try.

But wait... I post in broken Italian not broken English.

Pandor... um, Pastorio

I'm beginning to wonder what YOUR problem is, Bob.
First Chung, now Sheldon. Take a chill pill and give it a rest.

`````````````````````````

Bob (this one) said:

levelwave said:

Bob (this one) said:

I put your name in the header so you're somewhat standing in the light
now, instead of behind the falsity you've always tried to peddle as
your real name. If you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta walk the
walk. Since the normal elements of civility are clearly beyond you, I
thought it would be good to show you how it comes back when you act
the malicious fool you are. Someone with better search skills than
mine could find you with that information. Perhaps they'd like to see
your farm. Share a cold one. Make jokes about squareheads and krauts
and [censored] and guineas. All people you admire and like...

Hey Bob, not to spoil your post(s) attacking sheldon but have you ever
thought that maybe he just enjoys pushing people's buttons? All the
words like "madness", "vile" and "insanity" aside, like maybe he really
gets a kick out of trying to [censored] you off.

Sure he does, John. And since I don't like his methods or what sadly
appears to be his genuine ugly, ugly motivation, and since it's an open
forum, he can say what he wants to and I can say what I want to. What a
country, huh...?

If Sheldon is of the mind that the stuff he writes here is fun and
getting responses is a good thing, imagine how satisfied he must be when
I point out that what impels him is so anti-social as to be
pathological. The thrill he must feel after being replied to warms my
heart, cocklewise, and is all the reward I need for helping him out. And
when I say his actions prove his demented, psychopathic malice, just
picture the big smile on his face. I live to make him happy.

Actually, Shecky and I are the best of friends and we're co-conspirators
in this. He oozes his primordial sewage and I sweep it back into the top
of his open head. Recycling, doncha know. Except the portion we use for
fertilizer. And look how green his entire farm is. Grade "A" stuff, I
tell ya...

I also enjoy when he deliberately posts stupid "information" that fairly
begs for correction. So, as long as he invites me to play like that, I
know he enjoys the little verbal nuclear explosions I set off under his
copious ass. It's all very friendly at heart.

Quoted message said:

Trying to get under someone's
skin in a forum or a newsgroup can very much be played like a game, in
fact there's forums dedicated to just that (brawlhall.com), one that
basically boils down to who can write better than the other... with the
opponents playing whether they realize it or not.

He wouldn't do well there. Sadly, writing skill isn't something he's
been blessed with. Mostly he does that "yoose" and name calling stuff as
though it were actually witty. But I admire his tenacity in the face of
diminished faculties.

No, seriously...

But he truly is nuts.

Pastorio

Bob said:

Bob Pastorio from Virginia replied to Sheldon Katz from upstate New York:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(just because someone posts with an "it" ISP does not mean
they're not posting from Staten Island)

This from our resident AOL internet wizard.

Hey...how come you never see Bob and Pandora at the same time? :-)

Geography and times zones could be the answer.

sf said:

Bob said:

Bob Pastorio from Virginia replied to Sheldon Katz from upstate New York:

Quoted message said:

> (just because someone posts with an "it" ISP does not mean
> they're not posting from Staten Island)

This from our resident AOL internet wizard.

Hey...how come you never see Bob and Pandora at the same time? :-)

Geography and times zones could be the answer.

Or, it could be a continent-spanning, humorless, furrowed-brow reply
that separates us. Something dour this way comes...

And bottom posted at that. Very good netiquette and I admire it.

No, seriously...

Pastorio

sf said:

I'm beginning to wonder what YOUR problem is, Bob.

Oh, put your mind to rest. If you really want to know, I'll be happy to
tell you the next time your attention span is in town. I assume from
your detention-class tone that I've somehow incurred your displeasure.
It, of course, devastates me to have you upset with me. Especially after
all we've meant to each other over the years.

Quoted message said:

First Chung, now Sheldon. Take a chill pill and give it a rest.

Yes, I know. It's a terrible thing to point out to the blowhard
mountebanks and frauds that they're, well, mountebanks and frauds. And
on your time and forcing you to read it; I admire your patience for it
all and appreciate it. Given how deeply we've each looked into each
other's hearts, I know you only have my best interests in mind. And I
appreciate it.

And I appreciate your top-posting, too. I appreciate so much about you.

No, seriously...

FOOD: Something to share with Sheldon; an Italian gastronomy glossary so
he can be more, like, *as one* with *all* Italians that he so admires.
<http://www.chefwalter.com/gstronomy.htm>

Pastorio

Sheldon said:

-L. said:

Sheldon said:

Now you're grasping for straws, becoming disingenuous... is that the
same rationalization you used when your brother stole your virginity.

Sheldon

My brother is gay, Sheldon.

And that stopped him how... prolly after you is why he stayed gay.

Lotsa gays experiment with woman, even marry women and father
children... sheesh, butt you're uneducated on the topic.

No I am not but I like yanking your chain.

-L.