OT: sterling flatware

Karen said:

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Used in excellent condition is much prettier than brand-new because
much of it has great patina - only acquired by loving use through years
and years of dining.

Sheldon notwithstanding (you're wrong, Shel), you can find inexpensive
sterling - even brand-new - on Ebay. And even if you have some reason
to be wary, all you have to do is CAREFULLY read the descriptions and
pay close attention to the feedback.

I sold (not on Ebay) my early-choice sterling which didn't "fit" me
anymore and bought (on Ebay) a used set of 5-piece place settings for
12 (!!) for less than $400, and have been filling in serving pieces,
extra pieces, etc., ever since.

The reason it was inexpensive? It had a "D" monogram. Tough, right?
LOL. It's Gorham - it's beautiful - it goes perfectly with my china.

And Shel - I've never had a guest of any kind steal any of my sterling
(or anything else, for that matter) - New Yorkers must be a different
breed from us "backwards" midwesterners. ;-)

I recently bought a glass jewelry box ($8) that had an elaborate
etching "Karen Sue 1956"... well, I had to get it, even if my middle
name is Stephanie.

Monogram stuff can go really cheap. I bought an old 14k gold charm "A"
last night for $8 and $2 shipping. My maiden name begins with "A"...
nice addition to my bracelet.

Some pieces can be worth more, sometimes far more, when it can be
determined whose monogram.... many folks collect monogramed articles
that once belonged to notable people, especially US presidents.

One initial is not a monogram, it's well, an initial.

Oxford

monogram

noun

a motif of two or more interwoven letters, typically a person's
initials, used to identify a personal possession or as a logo.
---

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

-L. said:

Does anyone know of an inexpensive on-line source for sterling
flatware? The pattern I am looking for is made by International, if
that matters.

There is no such thing as inexpensive sterling anything, 'specially not
brand new.

There is "relatively inexpensive." The price variation on-line is
tremendous.

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Why would anyone want such a dinosaur? Do you have a live-in maid who
is willing to spend hours tediously polishing... even housekeepers
nowadays don't do that. Today there is such gorgeous stainless steel
flatware, puts sterling to shame... and no one will steal your
stainless, but guaranteed, guests will pocket pieces of sterling.

Sheldon

Maybe your guests but not mine. 🙂

-L.

Quoted message said:

Used in excellent condition is much prettier than brand-new because
much of it has great patina - only acquired by loving use through years
and years of dining.

Sheldon notwithstanding (you're wrong, Shel), you can find inexpensive
sterling - even brand-new - on Ebay. And even if you have some reason
to be wary, all you have to do is CAREFULLY read the descriptions and
pay close attention to the feedback.

I sold (not on Ebay) my early-choice sterling which didn't "fit" me
anymore and bought (on Ebay) a used set of 5-piece place settings for
12 (!!) for less than $400, and have been filling in serving pieces,
extra pieces, etc., ever since.

The reason it was inexpensive? It had a "D" monogram. Tough, right?
LOL. It's Gorham - it's beautiful - it goes perfectly with my china.

And Shel - I've never had a guest of any kind steal any of my sterling
(or anything else, for that matter) - New Yorkers must be a different
breed from us "backwards" midwesterners. ;-)

Thanks for the tip. I have seen deceptive ebay practices and it has
turned me off. My brother is an antique dealer, so I understand the
value of old things. 😉 This was a gift from my husband for our 5th
wedding anniversary - for me to choose the line and pieces of my
choice, a full 12-place setting and serving pieces. So I am trying to
stretch my dollar. 😉

-L.

You could try an Italian web site called "Caterina Collezione" at
http://www.SilverFromItaly.com. It's a factory outlet located in Italy
and they feature hundreds of their own designs. Their prices are very
reasonable and they ship directly from the factory to the States.

-L. said:

Sheldon said:

-L. said:

Does anyone know of an inexpensive on-line source for sterling
flatware? The pattern I am looking for is made by International, if
that matters.

Why would anyone want such a dinosaur? Do you have a live-in maid who
is willing to spend hours tediously polishing... even housekeepers
nowadays don't do that. Today there is such gorgeous stainless steel
flatware, puts sterling to shame... and no one will steal your
stainless, but guaranteed, guests will pocket pieces of sterling.

Sheldon

Maybe your guests but not mine. 🙂

Nonsense. Anyone can and will steal your silver. It's exceedingly
rare guests won't go through your bathroom stuff too, and many will
take something, nail clippers, scissors, bars of soap, toothpaste, even
the aspirin... I've even had an ancient rectal thermometer stolen (no,
it wasn't monogrammed) and I know it had to be one of only two
people... all I could do is hope they enjoy it. I no longer keep
anything other than a couple cheapo hand towels, dispenser soap, and
one extra roll of TP in my guest bathroom... and yes, I've had TP taken
too.

Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends, and
acquaintances lift their stuff.

Another reason no one is permitted to help in my kitchen. I don't
permit guests to wander freely about my home either... they have no
business in my office and bedroom areas. I don't know about yoose but
I don't invite people to make themselves at home.

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

Nonsense. Anyone can and will steal your silver. It's exceedingly
rare guests won't go through your bathroom stuff too, and many will
take something, nail clippers, scissors, bars of soap, toothpaste, even
the aspirin... I've even had an ancient rectal thermometer stolen (no,
it wasn't monogrammed) and I know it had to be one of only two
people... all I could do is hope they enjoy it. I no longer keep
anything other than a couple cheapo hand towels, dispenser soap, and
one extra roll of TP in my guest bathroom... and yes, I've had TP taken
too.

Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends, and
acquaintances lift their stuff.

Another reason no one is permitted to help in my kitchen. I don't
permit guests to wander freely about my home either... they have no
business in my office and bedroom areas. I don't know about yoose but
I don't invite people to make themselves at home.

You have a untrustworthy circle of friends.

Karen

"Karen" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You have a untrustworthy circle of friends.

I don't think I would even call them friends.

Karen said:

Sheldon said:

Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends, and
acquaintances lift their stuff.

You have a untrustworthy circle of friends.

See above.

Only other explanation for your statement is you have none.

Sheldon

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Karen said:

Sheldon said:

Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends, and
acquaintances lift their stuff.

You have a untrustworthy circle of friends.

See above.

Only other explanation for your statement is you have none.

Nobody has ever stolen from me, and we have had lots of
events here in our old house. Honestly, if I felt that way, I
would not have people in. How can you stand it? Would
you steal from your friends?

Mary said:

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Karen said:

Sheldon wrote:
>
> Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends, and
> acquaintances lift their stuff.

You have a untrustworthy circle of friends.

See above.

Only other explanation for your statement is you have none.

Nobody has ever stolen from me, and we have had lots of
events here in our old house. Honestly, if I felt that way, I
would not have people in.

Again, see above.

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Would you steal from your friends?

No. But I have very few people in my life that I classify as friends,
less than the fingers on one hand... all the rest are aquaintences.
You're fortunate to have lived a very sheltered life.

Sheldon

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Mary said:

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Karen wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends,

and

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> > acquaintances lift their stuff.
>
> You have a untrustworthy circle of friends.

See above.

Only other explanation for your statement is you have none.

Nobody has ever stolen from me, and we have had lots of
events here in our old house. Honestly, if I felt that way, I
would not have people in.

Again, see above.

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Would you steal from your friends?

No. But I have very few people in my life that I classify as friends,
less than the fingers on one hand... all the rest are aquaintences.
You're fortunate to have lived a very sheltered life.

Maybe I have been lucky, but not sheltered. I, also only count
a few people as friends.

Sheldon said:

Karen said:

Quoted message said:

Used in excellent condition is much prettier than brand-new because
much of it has great patina - only acquired by loving use through years
and years of dining.

Sheldon notwithstanding (you're wrong, Shel), you can find inexpensive
sterling - even brand-new - on Ebay. And even if you have some reason
to be wary, all you have to do is CAREFULLY read the descriptions and
pay close attention to the feedback.

I sold (not on Ebay) my early-choice sterling which didn't "fit" me
anymore and bought (on Ebay) a used set of 5-piece place settings for
12 (!!) for less than $400, and have been filling in serving pieces,
extra pieces, etc., ever since.

The reason it was inexpensive? It had a "D" monogram. Tough, right?
LOL. It's Gorham - it's beautiful - it goes perfectly with my china.

And Shel - I've never had a guest of any kind steal any of my sterling
(or anything else, for that matter) - New Yorkers must be a different
breed from us "backwards" midwesterners. ;-)

I recently bought a glass jewelry box ($8) that had an elaborate
etching "Karen Sue 1956"... well, I had to get it, even if my middle
name is Stephanie.

Monogram stuff can go really cheap. I bought an old 14k gold charm "A"
last night for $8 and $2 shipping. My maiden name begins with "A"...
nice addition to my bracelet.

Some pieces can be worth more, sometimes far more, when it can be
determined whose monogram.... many folks collect monogramed articles
that once belonged to notable people, especially US presidents.

One initial is not a monogram, it's well, an initial.

Oxford

monogram

noun

a motif of two or more interwoven letters, typically a person's
initials, used to identify a personal possession or as a logo.
---

Sheldon

Okay, argue semantics instead of something substantive. It had the
INITIAL D,
'kay?

N.

Sheldon said:

Karen said:

Quoted message said:

Used in excellent condition is much prettier than brand-new because
much of it has great patina - only acquired by loving use through years
and years of dining.

Sheldon notwithstanding (you're wrong, Shel), you can find inexpensive
sterling - even brand-new - on Ebay. And even if you have some reason
to be wary, all you have to do is CAREFULLY read the descriptions and
pay close attention to the feedback.

I sold (not on Ebay) my early-choice sterling which didn't "fit" me
anymore and bought (on Ebay) a used set of 5-piece place settings for
12 (!!) for less than $400, and have been filling in serving pieces,
extra pieces, etc., ever since.

The reason it was inexpensive? It had a "D" monogram. Tough, right?
LOL. It's Gorham - it's beautiful - it goes perfectly with my china.

And Shel - I've never had a guest of any kind steal any of my sterling
(or anything else, for that matter) - New Yorkers must be a different
breed from us "backwards" midwesterners. ;-)

I recently bought a glass jewelry box ($8) that had an elaborate
etching "Karen Sue 1956"... well, I had to get it, even if my middle
name is Stephanie.

Monogram stuff can go really cheap. I bought an old 14k gold charm "A"
last night for $8 and $2 shipping. My maiden name begins with "A"...
nice addition to my bracelet.

Some pieces can be worth more, sometimes far more, when it can be
determined whose monogram.... many folks collect monogramed articles
that once belonged to notable people, especially US presidents.

One initial is not a monogram, it's well, an initial.

Oxford

monogram

noun

a motif of two or more interwoven letters, typically a person's
initials, used to identify a personal possession or as a logo.
---

Sheldon

Okay, argue semantics instead of anything substantive. If you go to a
jeweler with silver to engrave, they will call a single initial a
"monogram." That's not to say they're correct- it's just common usage.
Pardon moi. My silver has THE INITIAL D on the pieces, 'kay?

N.

Mary said:

Nobody has ever stolen from me, and we have had lots of
events here in our old house. Honestly, if I felt that way, I
would not have people in. [snip]

No, if you felt that way, you'd be pathetically paranoid, like him.
-aem

Pasquale said:

You could try an Italian web site called "Caterina Collezione" at
http://www.SilverFromItaly.com. It's a factory outlet located in Italy
and they feature hundreds of their own designs. Their prices are very
reasonable and they ship directly from the factory to the States.

Thank you for the info.

-L.

Sheldon said:

Nonsense. Anyone can and will steal your silver.

Sure they *can* but I doubt they *would*. Besides, if they want it bad
enough to steal it, let them have it. It's just silver.

-L.

-L. said:

Sheldon said:

Nonsense. Anyone can and will steal your silver.

if they want it bad enough to steal it, let them have it.
It's just silver.

Now you're grasping for straws, becoming disingenuous... is that the
same rationalization you used when your brother stole your virginity.

Sheldon

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On Tue 19 Jul 2005 12:50:28a, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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Does anyone know of an inexpensive on-line source for sterling
flatware? The pattern I am looking for is made by International, if
that matters.

Inexpensive Sterling seems an oxymoron to me, but I have bought

additional

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pieces of our pattern at Upscale Gallery.

How true! I'm glad we're downsizing and I don't have to worry about that
any more. Silver went to one daughter, china to the other.

I don't think we have good silver, but there's mom's china set from when she
and daddy were married, and the china cabinet. It would make sense if they
go to me instead of my sister, since I actually entertain, but if sis wants
them, I won't argue. Nothing is worth a broken relationship.

TammyM

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-L. said:

Sheldon said:

-L. wrote:
> Does anyone know of an inexpensive on-line source for sterling
> flatware? The pattern I am looking for is made by International, if
> that matters.

Why would anyone want such a dinosaur? Do you have a live-in maid who
is willing to spend hours tediously polishing... even housekeepers
nowadays don't do that. Today there is such gorgeous stainless steel
flatware, puts sterling to shame... and no one will steal your
stainless, but guaranteed, guests will pocket pieces of sterling.

Sheldon

Maybe your guests but not mine. 🙂

Nonsense. Anyone can and will steal your silver. It's exceedingly
rare guests won't go through your bathroom stuff too, and many will
take something, nail clippers, scissors, bars of soap, toothpaste, even
the aspirin... I've even had an ancient rectal thermometer stolen (no,
it wasn't monogrammed) and I know it had to be one of only two
people... all I could do is hope they enjoy it. I no longer keep
anything other than a couple cheapo hand towels, dispenser soap, and
one extra roll of TP in my guest bathroom... and yes, I've had TP taken
too.

Most folks simply won't admit that their family members, friends, and
acquaintances lift their stuff.

Another reason no one is permitted to help in my kitchen. I don't
permit guests to wander freely about my home either... they have no
business in my office and bedroom areas. I don't know about yoose but
I don't invite people to make themselves at home.

Sheldon

That's so sad, Sheldon. The only time anyone's stolen from me was when my
young (11 years old) cousin who took a pair of inexpensive earrings (and
was made to apologize for the theft when it was discovered.) I've even had
an rfc cook-in in my home with 40-ish people (most of whom I'd only
encountered online) and not only was nothing missing, but I was given a
number of nice hostess gifts in tribute to the hospitality.

This must be an east coast phenomenon ;-)

TammyM

tammym said:

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-L. said:

Sheldon wrote:

Another reason no one is permitted to help in my kitchen. I don't
permit guests to wander freely about my home either... they have no
business in my office and bedroom areas. I don't know about yoose but
I don't invite people to make themselves at home.

Sheldon

That's so sad, Sheldon.

Not only that, but if I was made to feel uncomfortable by being told
where I can or cannot go - that's the last invitation I'd ever say
yes to. Rational, adult, people know and accept "boundaries" and
don't venture into "private" territory without an expressed
invitation. OTOH, the KITCHEN??? His kitchen is big enough to
accomocate the entire party, so why keep people out?

<snip>

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I've even had
an rfc cook-in in my home with 40-ish people (most of whom I'd only
encountered online) and not only was nothing missing, but I was given a
number of nice hostess gifts in tribute to the hospitality.

Ditto

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This must be an east coast phenomenon ;-)

TammyM