OT: Recommended Wintel Newsreaders

I'm a big fan of Thunderbird
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Luke said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

Luke

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:19:36 -0500, "Luke" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

Luke

Dear Luke,

Talk is cheap, but you can get the list of posters least able to keep
quiet so far this month from

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/about

You can see which newsreader any of these blabbermouths favor by
looking at one of their posts in google groups, clicking on
more-options, choosing show-original, and peeking at the header:

choice of weapon outbursts nom de guerre
---------------- --------- -------------
Mozilla/5.0 Mac 183 Qui si parla Campagnolo
Forte Free Agent 152 [email hidden]
(or posting.google.com) (this poster is a shifty character)
posting.google.com 140 ddog
Thunderbird 125 [email hidden]
Forte Agent 1.93 124 [email hidden]
MT-NewsWatcher/Mac OS 120 [email hidden]
Thunderbird 118 [email hidden]
tin (linux) 117 [email hidden]
Outlook Express 104 [email hidden]
Thunderbird 104 Peter Cole

Thunderbird seems to be the club most likely to be used by those who
have the highest scores in the golf tournament of RBT:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Here's a sample how-to-set-Thunderbird-up page:

https://hdc.tamu.edu/reference/documentation/?section_id=669

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Luke said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

Agent. Free Agent if you want to try it out, but I liked it so much I
bought the thing.

Pat

Pat Lamb said:

Luke said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

Agent. Free Agent if you want to try it out, but I liked it so much I
bought the thing.

Pat

Free Agent is no longer available, at least not from the publisher. They
only have the pay version now, only $25 or something, but still.

The problem with Thunderbird is that it doesn't do any message filtering
unless you download all messages to your PC, apparently. The "message
filters" only apply to regular e-mail, not newsgroups.
~

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:19:36 -0500, "Luke" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

I'm on an earlier version of Windows with Agent and like it.
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:19:36 -0500, "Luke" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

I'm on an earlier version of Windows with Agent and like it

Second .. Agent is (and has been for several years and
versions of Windows) the best all around news reader.

An absolute bargain at $29.00

Pan is a pretty cool Agent-like reader. Can't vouch for the latest
windows version, but used it for years under *nix. Totally free:

http://pan.rebelbase.com/

Luke said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

Luke

On 26 Jan 2007 17:00:51 -0800, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

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http://pan.rebelbase.com/

Stuff like this confounds me:
"Linking requires files with extension '.so' (i.e., without the
version number). So, you need libesd.so. On RPM-based systems, you
need to install the esound-devel RPM package."
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:19:36 -0500, "Luke" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

Luke

Forte Agent; the $30 is very quickly forgotten, the flaws in other
readers draw attention to themselves every day.

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

On Jan 26, 7:06 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

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On 26 Jan 2007 17:00:51 -0800, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

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http://pan.rebelbase.com/Stuff like this confounds me:

"Linking requires files with extension '.so' (i.e., without the
version number). So, you need libesd.so. On RPM-based systems, you
need to install the esound-devel RPM package."

Where'd you come across that error? Installs cleanly here, though I
can't get my ISPs news server to work, so I use Google Groups. :-P

I've been enjoying the nicknames since development restarted last
summer:

January 22, 2007 - Pan 0.121: "Dortmunder"🙂
January 2, 2007 - Pan 0.120: "Plate of Shrimp"
November 10, 2006 - Pan 0.119: "Karma Hunters"
November 2, 2006 - Pan 0.118: "Gustaf Von Musterhausen"
October 16, 2006 - Pan 0.117: "We'll fly and we'll fall and we'll burn"
October 10, 2006: 0.116: "Blanton's"
September 30, 2006: 0.115: "Mrs. Kerr Says Remember the Tip Jar"
September 25, 2006: 0.114: "You'll Have to Go Sideways"
September 18, 2006: 0.113 is one of Nakata's favorites"
September 10, 2006: 0.112: "Elijah Craig"
September 3, 2006: 0.111: "Tweedy"
August 27, 2006: 0.110: "Beable Beable"
August 18, 2006: 0.109: "Beable"
August 13, 2006: 0.108: "Mama's Little Joyboy Loves Lobsters, Lobsters"
August 8, 2006: 0.107: "Umi De No Jiatsu"
August 2, 2006: 0.106: "Dum Maro Dum"
July 26, 2006: 0.105: "When Churchill opened the door, it was a new
car, a Chevrolet Nova."

On 26 Jan 2007 17:39:44 -0800, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

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On Jan 26, 7:06 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On 26 Jan 2007 17:00:51 -0800, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://pan.rebelbase.com/Stuff like this confounds me:

"Linking requires files with extension '.so' (i.e., without the
version number). So, you need libesd.so. On RPM-based systems, you
need to install the esound-devel RPM package."

Where'd you come across that error? Installs cleanly here, though I
can't get my ISPs news server to work, so I use Google Groups. :-P

I don't the use the program, but saw stuff like that on the website on
a cursory look.
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On Jan 26, 8:06 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

Where'd you come across that error? Installs cleanly here, though I
can't get my ISPs news server to work, so I use Google Groups. :-P

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I don't the use the program, but saw stuff like that on the website on
a cursory look.

Oh that's just for the people that are compiling from scratch. Some
folks like to do such things.

With Windows, it's a matter of downloading and double clicking. With
most modern versions of Linux, it's also a matter of downloading the
proper package and double clicking. Alternately, I can just fire up a
terminal and type "sudo apt-get install pan" and it will download and
install with any necessary dependencies and no input from me.

Bob Flumere said:

Second .. Agent is (and has been for several years and
versions of Windows) the best all around news reader.

An absolute bargain at $29.00

Can't resist: you could get linux and pan, with much better performance,
all for free.

--

David L. Johnson

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]

On Jan 26, 9:22 pm, "David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Bob Flumere said:

Second .. Agent is (and has been for several years and
versions of Windows) the best all around news reader.

Quoted message said:

An absolute bargain at $29.00Can't resist: you could get linux and pan, with much better performance,

all for free.

Dunno about performance for day to day tasks. I run a lean XP and a
pretty standard Ubuntu install (services tweaked of course) on both my
desktop and lappie, and meh, they suck about the same amount of
resources. Of course, Ubuntu shines when I've got three virtual
workspaces filled with stuff. :-P XP gets mainly used as a giant
scanning and printing application. *g*

Pan works OK with Windows. It's only a pain when you want to have other
gtk stuff installed like Gaim and the Gimp, as they can't all play nice
and use the same gtk libs. Oh no.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Luke said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader

Check out a comprehensive list of the options at www.newsreaders.com.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:19:36 -0500, "Luke" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders -- Thoth,
MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the recommendations for a Win
XP compatible reader?

Luke

Dear Luke,

Talk is cheap, but you can get the list of posters least able to keep
quiet so far this month from

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/about

You can see which newsreader any of these blabbermouths favor by
looking at one of their posts in google groups, clicking on
more-options, choosing show-original, and peeking at the header:

choice of weapon outbursts nom de guerre
---------------- --------- -------------
Mozilla/5.0 Mac 183 Qui si parla Campagnolo
Forte Free Agent 152 [email hidden]
(or posting.google.com) (this poster is a shifty character)
posting.google.com 140 ddog
Thunderbird 125 [email hidden]
Forte Agent 1.93 124 [email hidden]
MT-NewsWatcher/Mac OS 120 [email hidden]
Thunderbird 118 [email hidden]
tin (linux) 117 [email hidden]
Outlook Express 104 [email hidden]
Thunderbird 104 Peter Cole

Thunderbird seems to be the club most likely to be used by those who
have the highest scores in the golf tournament of RBT:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

So that makes you what, an 80-handicapper?

Scratch poster,

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"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 26 Jan 2007 17:00:51 -0800, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://pan.rebelbase.com/

Stuff like this confounds me:
"Linking requires files with extension '.so' (i.e., without the
version number). So, you need libesd.so. On RPM-based systems, you
need to install the esound-devel RPM package."

Linux-heads are used to it. ;-) pan comes from the Linux side.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Luke said:

Outlook Express is mediocre compared to the Mac newsreaders --
Thoth, MT-Newswatcher -- I'm accustomed to. What are the
recommendations for a Win XP compatible reader?

Quoted message said:

Pat Lamb said:

Agent. Free Agent if you want to try it out, but I liked it so much I
bought the thing.

DougC said:

Free Agent is no longer available, at least not from the publisher. They
only have the pay version now, only $25 or something, but still.

The problem with Thunderbird is that it doesn't do any message filtering
unless you download all messages to your PC, apparently. The "message
filters" only apply to regular e-mail, not newsgroups.
~

Filter? What ?? and miss an rbt post? The horror!

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

landotter said:

On Jan 26, 7:06 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On 26 Jan 2007 17:00:51 -0800, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://pan.rebelbase.com/Stuff like this confounds me:

"Linking requires files with extension '.so' (i.e., without the
version number). So, you need libesd.so. On RPM-based systems, you
need to install the esound-devel RPM package."

Where'd you come across that error? Installs cleanly here, though I
can't get my ISPs news server to work, so I use Google Groups. :-P

[snip]

I thought all ISP's ababdoned news service. I think most of the
so-called tech support don't know what "news" is these days, let alone
"where is your server".

No problem, so use a free nntp server. I use news.aioe.net port 119.
It's text only, has a relatively short expire, but you can get through
your news about 8 times faster than with a web interface like google.
I think it's from italy, but when I say tab: next article, it's there
pronto.

Bill Westphal