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  1. sf said:
    Ranee Mueller said:

    We nearly lost Amira to choking last night, and we're still shaken up
    about it. She is fine now, but we really thought she was going to die.
    She choked, entered into hypoxia and then a seizure. Rich knows what
    the stages of hypoxia are, though, and he said when he started CPR it
    looked like she was about 45 seconds into it. The only question we had
    was whether she had a seizure which sent her into the choking and
    hypoxia or if it was the choking which caused the hypoxia and seizure.
    Fortunately, it was the latter.

    How old ia Amira? Does she have a seizure disorder?

    I wonder why she didn't call a vet, there is generally a veterinarian
    who is on call in every community. Having six cats I try to be
    prepared if one of mine suddenly becomes incapacited... I keep a list
    of all veterinarians in my area with contact info and directions posted
    on my fridge and a copy in my car. I also have a comprehensive first
    aid manual specifically for cats (they're often free from the major pet
    food manufacturers). Also, for anyone living in the north east US
    there is a superb clinic on Lung Guyland, opened 24/7. When the local
    vets gave up on my Jilly and Jack they saved them.

    http://www.livs.org

    Sheldon

  2. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How old ia Amira? Does she have a seizure disorder?

    I wonder why she didn't call a vet, there is generally a veterinarian
    who is on call in every community. Having six cats I try to be
    prepared if one of mine suddenly becomes incapacited... I keep a list
    of all veterinarians in my area with contact info and directions posted
    on my fridge and a copy in my car. I also have a comprehensive first
    aid manual specifically for cats (they're often free from the major pet
    food manufacturers). Also, for anyone living in the north east US
    there is a superb clinic on Lung Guyland, opened 24/7. When the local
    vets gave up on my Jilly and Jack they saved them.

    http://www.livs.org

    Sheldon

    I'm very confused - what is AMIRA? A cat?

    Dimitri

  3. Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts and prayers. We are doing
    well here. Amira acts like nothing happened, and we are still freaked
    out. 🙂

    We figure that one day she will balk at our pureeing all of her food,
    but for now it makes us feel better.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    cathyxyz said:

    Hope Amira (and all of you) will be ok. Our thoughts are with you. Know
    what its like to almost lose a child <shudder>.

    *hugs* I'm glad to hear that yours was an almost rather than a did
    happen.

    Regards,
    Ranee

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    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Goomba38 said:

    Perhaps a community CPR class would help reassure everyone (older kids
    even?) particularly the Heimlich maneuver.

    Fortunately, all the adults in the house had had some form of First
    Aid and CPR training, though mine is out of date (we get updates from
    Rich's mom who works at a child care center at a health club), and
    Rich's infant stuff was limited. Arthur, the kids' godfather, is a
    school bus driver and he is well trained, and Matt, his son, had
    recently had adult CPR training, though he said he was disappointed in
    it, as they never told them that a person could turn blue like that. I
    miswrote, though, as Rich never had to do CPR, he began backblows, and
    when nothing seemed to change, he started for the van as Arthur called
    911. We live on the airport property, in an out of the way and
    difficult to find for the first time, spot, so we didn't want to waste
    any time trying to talk emergency vehicles down to our house, and they
    know where to go to get to the airport office. Our eldest son is only
    6 1/2, and although we do want them all to learn first aid and cpr, he
    is probably the only one who could pick up any of it at this point, and
    fortunately, he is never in a position to be alone watching the other
    kids at his age.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    sf said:
    Ranee Mueller said:

    We nearly lost Amira to choking last night, and we're still shaken up
    about it. She is fine now, but we really thought she was going to die.
    She choked, entered into hypoxia and then a seizure. Rich knows what
    the stages of hypoxia are, though, and he said when he started CPR it
    looked like she was about 45 seconds into it. The only question we had
    was whether she had a seizure which sent her into the choking and
    hypoxia or if it was the choking which caused the hypoxia and seizure.
    Fortunately, it was the latter.

    How old ia Amira? Does she have a seizure disorder?

    She is 16 months, and no. That was why we wanted to make sure that
    it was the hypoxia which caused the seizure and not the other way
    around. She had had a round of four immunizations a week earlier, and
    we wanted to make sure it wasn't a reaction to them.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I was hysterical at first

    No kidding - I would be hysterical too! I'm glad everything is ok
    now, but I can tell you that I was a wreck for days after coming home
    to something nowhere near as serious as what you went through, so I
    think you're entitled.

    Something Rich said was that I also knew I had the luxury to be so,
    since he and Arthur were there. If I were on my own, I would have had
    to hold it together for the kids. After that first scream, at least, I
    was functional and able to deal with the 911 folks, the calling of our
    priest and prayer chain, and Arthur's wife (Matt wanted to call his mom
    because he was so frightened by what had happened). Then, with Rich and
    Arthur gone, it was my job to hold the kids together and comfort them.

    Arthur thought it was good for Matt to see mortality up close, since
    he is a 13 year old boy, and as scary as it was for our boys, it
    illustrated how important it is not to have the legos downstairs where
    Amira plays (which is something we have to bugg them about, sometimes)
    and why we talk about choking as such a scary thing.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dimitri said:

    I'm very confused - what is AMIRA? A cat?

    No, she is my daughter. She is 16 months old.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  8. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Cindy Fuller said:

    Unfortunately, there will be no apricots from our tree. As the Chicago
    Cubs have been saying for 100 years, wait until next year.

    That's alright. We can still be friends. 😉

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  9. Dimitri said:

    "penmart01 wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How old ia Amira? Does she have a seizure disorder?

    I wonder why she didn't call a vet, there is generally a veterinarian
    who is on call in every community. Having six cats I try to be
    prepared if one of mine suddenly becomes incapacited... I keep a list
    of all veterinarians in my area with contact info and directions posted
    on my fridge and a copy in my car. I also have a comprehensive first
    aid manual specifically for cats (they're often free from the major pet
    food manufacturers). Also, for anyone living in the north east US> > there is a superb clinic on Lung Guyland, opened 24/7. When the local
    vets gave up on my Jilly and Jack they saved them.

    http://www.livs.org

    I'm very confused - what is AMIRA? A cat?

    I'm confused too, I've not a clue, could be a hampster, a nubian goat,
    even a pot bellied pig... the OP never gives the slightest hint... I
    just assumed a pet, because I have pets... and wouldn't a normal parent
    have refered to Amira as their child if that were the case... for all I
    know Amira is an appropriate name for a pet tarantula. Many folks here
    refer to their pets by name all the time without ever mentioning what
    type (ie. Dog3 does that all the time, as does Jill, Sheryl, and Damsel
    [hey, was years before I learned Crash wasn't a poodle - hehe], so do
    I), but I don't remember anyone refering to their child without writing
    "My son/daughter so n' so..." fill in the name, (I mean like it can
    only be one or the other - son/daughter but 'child' will suffice), as
    if we live with these pinheads in the same household. I don't know why
    some are so audacious as to presume we're so intimately involved with
    their personal lives (or want to be)in a food/cooking group... not like
    this is
    <family-schizophrenia.discuss.alt>. And if anyone chooses to post
    personal business in public don't whine if it comes back to haunt.

    Sheldon

  10. Ranee Mueller said:

    We nearly lost Amira to choking last night, and we're still shaken up
    about it. She is fine now, but we really thought she was going to die.

    I am very happy that things turned out the way they did. God bless
    you all. Although going through such a situation sometimes (or often)
    causes subtle changes internally that are ususally, in the long run,
    beneficial. Last Thursday nite our daughter was involved in a serious
    car accident where the vehicle she was in ended up rolling at least 2
    times. My son was first on the scene, we arrived shortly after the
    rescue people. When I saw the car, and the two of them covered in
    blood from head to toe, I just knew they were going to die. (As a
    parent, you always assume the worst when you see stuff like that) As
    it turns out, besides cuts and bruises, my daughter is the worst of
    the lot and her injuries are miraculously small, given the nature of
    the accident. She has some scooped-out sections of flesh on her right
    foot the size of silver dollars that couldn't be stitched. These
    require 3 times a day dressing changes which are quite painfull, and
    causes her to occasionally sort of pass out, but we're all very
    grateful, as this is but a mere inconvenience for her compared to what
    SHOULD have happened. She's become adept with crutches and there's
    been at least a hundred kids show up with flowers and stuff since
    then. Friends she didn't even know she had turned up to say hi or
    take her out for ice cream or whatever for a few minutes now and then,
    and help keep her company while we're both gone. It brought a bunch
    of her former and current friends together, opened up new channels of
    communication and in the end, will be a good experience for all
    involved. (Well, you know what I mean). Her first request the next
    day was whether we'd let her go to church Sunday. At 16, she's not
    only grasped the concept of her own mortality, but a lesson in the
    laws of physics as well. Hopefully, this will affect her future
    driving habits. Unfamiliar country roads at night, loose gravel and
    inexperience don't add up to a good thing. OTOH, I must say that what
    we went through is far less frightening than your experience. When
    the "victim" is so incredibly helpless, the situation is magnified
    greatly. In light of the last few days I can imagine, but only
    partially, what you must have been going through.

    --
    The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
    At least now I have an excuse.

  11. Sheldon said:
    Dimitri said:

    "penmart01 wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    > How old ia Amira? Does she have a seizure disorder?

    I wonder why she didn't call a vet, there is generally a veterinarian
    who is on call in every community. Having six cats I try to be
    prepared if one of mine suddenly becomes incapacited... I keep a list
    of all veterinarians in my area with contact info and directions posted
    on my fridge and a copy in my car. I also have a comprehensive first
    aid manual specifically for cats (they're often free from the major pet
    food manufacturers). Also, for anyone living in the north east US> > there is a superb clinic on Lung Guyland, opened 24/7. When the local
    vets gave up on my Jilly and Jack they saved them.

    http://www.livs.org

    I'm very confused - what is AMIRA? A cat?

    I'm confused too, I've not a clue, could be a hampster, a nubian goat,
    even a pot bellied pig... the OP never gives the slightest hint... I
    just assumed a pet, because I have pets... and wouldn't a normal parent
    have refered to Amira as their child if that were the case... for all I
    know Amira is an appropriate name for a pet tarantula.

    She sure did give plenty of clues as to the fact that Amira is a child.
    This is from the original post.
    "They took her and Rich to the hospital in the ambulance, and Arthur
    followed
    in our van with the carseat, with an extra set of clothes for her, some

    food for Rich and her soft doll. "

    Sandi

  12. Sandi wrote:

    for all I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know Amira is an appropriate name for a pet tarantula.

    She sure did give plenty of clues as to the fact that Amira is a child.
    This is from the original post.
    "They took her and Rich to the hospital in the ambulance, and Arthur
    followed
    in our van with the carseat, with an extra set of clothes for her, some

    food for Rich and her soft doll. "

    Had to go back to check, that was like 3-4 paragraphs into an
    excessively verbose post... I didn't read past the first two paragraphs
    before giving up because to that point the post made not a whit of
    sense nor was it at all interesting enough to read on. And why should
    anyone need to hunt for clues, can't folks have the common decency to
    be up front, especially in an emergency ... one can only imagine the
    frustration of a 911 operator having to listen to all that pointless
    hysterical hollywood dramatics before finding out it was about a child,
    poor kid coulda died before Sarah Bernhardt got to the point.

    Sheldon

  13. AlleyGator said:
    Quoted message said:
    Ranee Mueller said:

    We nearly lost Amira to choking last night, and we're still
    shaken up about it. She is fine now, but we really thought she was
    going to die.

    I am very happy that things turned out the way they did. God bless
    you all. Although going through such a situation sometimes (or
    often) causes subtle changes internally that are ususally, in the
    long run, beneficial. Last Thursday nite our daughter was involved
    in a serious car accident where the vehicle she was in ended up
    rolling at least 2 times.

    Glad your daughter is going to be ok Alleygator.

    Debbie

  14. "Sandi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    She sure did give plenty of clues as to the fact that Amira is a child.
    This is from the original post.
    "They took her and Rich to the hospital in the ambulance, and Arthur
    followed
    in our van with the carseat, with an extra set of clothes for her, some

    food for Rich and her soft doll. "

    Sandi

    OK am I the only dumb one here?

    Assume will make an ass out of U and Me.

    I just wonder how many other people here knew the post was about t child?

    Dimitri

    Time to stand up and be counted!

  15. One time on Usenet said:

    "Sandi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    She sure did give plenty of clues as to the fact that Amira is a child.
    This is from the original post.
    "They took her and Rich to the hospital in the ambulance, and Arthur
    followed
    in our van with the carseat, with an extra set of clothes for her, some
    food for Rich and her soft doll. "

    Sandi

    OK am I the only dumb one here?

    Assume will make an ass out of U and Me.

    I just wonder how many other people here knew the post was about t child?

    Dimitri

    Time to stand up and be counted!

    I did, I did! But I admit that at first, I thought it could be child OR
    pet...

    --
    Jani in WA (S'mee)
    ~ mom, VidGamer, novice cook, dieter ~

  16. Dimitri <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : OK am I the only dumb one here?

    : Assume will make an ass out of U and Me.

    : I just wonder how many other people here knew the post was about t child?

    How many people do you know who would be able to do CPR on a
    cat, dog, bird, snake...?
    --thelma
    : Dimitri

  17. "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Sandi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    She sure did give plenty of clues as to the fact that Amira is a child.
    This is from the original post.
    "They took her and Rich to the hospital in the ambulance, and Arthur
    followed
    in our van with the carseat, with an extra set of clothes for her, some

    food for Rich and her soft doll. "

    Quoted message said:

    OK am I the only dumb one here?

    Assume will make an ass out of U and Me.

    I just wonder how many other people here knew the post was about t child?

    I thought it was obvious. I mean, if I called my paramedics to rush over
    and take her to the hospital, only 'her' was my cat who had, oddly, turned
    blue, they'd tell me to call a vet. That and Ranee's hysteria tells me it
    was
    something more than a family pet.

    nancy

  18. Dimitri said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Sandi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    She sure did give plenty of clues as to the fact that Amira is a
    child. This is from the original post.
    "They took her and Rich to the hospital in the ambulance, and Arthur
    followed
    in our van with the carseat, with an extra set of clothes for her,
    some

    food for Rich and her soft doll. "

    Sandi

    OK am I the only dumb one here?

    Assume will make an ass out of U and Me.

    I just wonder how many other people here knew the post was about t
    child?


    I did.

    Debbie

  19. Dimitri said:

    "Sandi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    She sure did give plenty of clues as to the fact that Amira is a child.
    This is from the original post.
    "They took her and Rich to the hospital in the ambulance, and Arthur
    followed
    in our van with the carseat, with an extra set of clothes for her, some

    food for Rich and her soft doll. "

    Sandi

    OK am I the only dumb one here?

    Assume will make an ass out of U and Me.

    I just wonder how many other people here knew the post was about t child?

    Dimitri

    Time to stand up and be counted!


    Of course I knew it was a child. What or who else could it be. It
    was scary to read about someone's child almost choking to death. Why
    would I say a prayer for the child's health, when I was almost sure
    that not anybody or anything in this Universe would hear it?

    "Please, make sure that Amira will have no ill effects from her
    choking incident" is what I shouted into space, hoping that it would
    have some effect. Is an Atheist turning into an Agnostic?

  20. Sheldon said:

    Many folks here
    refer to their pets by name all the time without ever mentioning what
    type (ie. Dog3 does that all the time, as does Jill, Sheryl, and Damsel
    [hey, was years before I learned Crash wasn't a poodle - hehe],

    I don't think that most RFCers know I have pets, let alone what their names
    are. And you're wrong about Crash. He's a great dane. 🙂

    Carp;

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