OT: Ping Om - Calcium

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

Om, you can answer me privately if you wish,

In the blood tests that you see the calcium results of that are high (as
mine is a point over) and has been; do you often/ or ever/ see just the
calcium test re-run?

Thanks, so much,
Dee Dee

I've personally found that it varies with my daily diet and supplements,
and especially what time I collect a sample vs. when I last took my
mineral supplements. It's always high if I collect it before, say, 6
hours after taking my pills or if I doubled the dose for some reason. It
goes down after that.

It can also vary depending on how much dairy you are eating.

If your doctor is concerned about a high level, ask them for an Ionized
calcium level. :-)

Hope this helps?????

In patients in the hospital that are having an issue with it, I've seen
it repeated about every 6 hours, but that's on in-patients and most
commonly on post-thyroidectomy, not so much on regular individuals, but
it's not unknown.

I was having some problems with cramping so was doubling my daily intake
(pills) one time so my calcium level was above normal range. My Dr.
requested an ionized calcium level. It was in normal range. When I went
back to a normal dose (1000 mg. max per day), the levels fell back into
normal range. I generally run profiles on myself about every 6 to 8
weeks, just because I can. <G>
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

Om, you can answer me privately if you wish,

In the blood tests that you see the calcium results of that are high (as
mine is a point over) and has been; do you often/ or ever/ see just the
calcium test re-run?

Thanks, so much,
Dee Dee

I've personally found that it varies with my daily diet and supplements,
and especially what time I collect a sample vs. when I last took my
mineral supplements. It's always high if I collect it before, say, 6
hours after taking my pills or if I doubled the dose for some reason. It
goes down after that.

It can also vary depending on how much dairy you are eating.

If your doctor is concerned about a high level, ask them for an Ionized
calcium level. :-)

Hope this helps?????

In patients in the hospital that are having an issue with it, I've seen
it repeated about every 6 hours, but that's on in-patients and most
commonly on post-thyroidectomy, not so much on regular individuals, but
it's not unknown.

I was having some problems with cramping so was doubling my daily intake
(pills) one time so my calcium level was above normal range. My Dr.
requested an ionized calcium level. It was in normal range. When I went
back to a normal dose (1000 mg. max per day), the levels fell back into
normal range.

I generally run profiles on myself about every 6 to 8

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weeks, just because I can. <G>
--
Peace!
Om

She says as she ever-so-cutely turns her head and hop-scotches away!

Om, I really appreciate your information. It's good to know the test name
(an Ionized

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calcium level.) in order to get a discussion going. Is this test taken by
blood draw?

Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

I generally run profiles on myself about every 6 to 8

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weeks, just because I can. <G>
--
Peace!
Om

She says as she ever-so-cutely turns her head and hop-scotches away!

<giggles> Seriously tho', since we are still trying to get my thyroid
meds stabilized, I have to submit labs to my doc every quarter anyway...

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Om, I really appreciate your information. It's good to know the test name
(an Ionized

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calcium level.) in order to get a discussion going. Is this test taken by
blood draw?

Yes ma'am!

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Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Dee Dee

Most welcome. :-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

Om, you can answer me privately if you wish,

In the blood tests that you see the calcium results of that are high (as
mine is a point over) and has been; do you often/ or ever/ see just the
calcium test re-run?

Thanks, so much,
Dee Dee

I've personally found that it varies with my daily diet and supplements,
and especially what time I collect a sample vs. when I last took my
mineral supplements. It's always high if I collect it before, say, 6
hours after taking my pills or if I doubled the dose for some reason. It
goes down after that.

It can also vary depending on how much dairy you are eating.

I know that working as a lab tech you process a lot of these labs. But
how much education do you get in interpretation of labs? My license to
practice and my malpractice insurance won't cover me for the free advice
given over the Internet. I have to be very cautious about what I
suggest... and in this instance I would suggest the OP talk directly to
his or her own doctor. We all remain safer that way. 🙂

As a sidenote: There are many reasons calcium levels might be elevated.
Prolonged inactivity (bones require exercise and some stress load to
maintain), certain cancers (lung for example) and renal disease can
alter calcium levels. Post thyroidectomy patients get monitored because
of the proximity to the parathyroid glands during surgery.

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Goomba38 said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

Om, you can answer me privately if you wish,

In the blood tests that you see the calcium results of that are high (as
mine is a point over) and has been; do you often/ or ever/ see just the
calcium test re-run?

Thanks, so much,
Dee Dee

I've personally found that it varies with my daily diet and supplements,
and especially what time I collect a sample vs. when I last took my
mineral supplements. It's always high if I collect it before, say, 6
hours after taking my pills or if I doubled the dose for some reason. It
goes down after that.

It can also vary depending on how much dairy you are eating.

I know that working as a lab tech you process a lot of these labs. But
how much education do you get in interpretation of labs?

Enough to keep from turning out bad results that don't make sense. ;-)
A lot of correlation goes on.

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My license to
practice and my malpractice insurance won't cover me for the free advice
given over the Internet. I have to be very cautious about what I
suggest... and in this instance I would suggest the OP talk directly to
his or her own doctor. We all remain safer that way. 🙂

I did suggest she simply ask her doc for a more specific test.
Note I did not suggest she change her diet/supplements, simply that they
can and do influence test results.

Any doc worth his/her salt will get tests repeated if they are off
and/or questionable.

I can't see anything in my post that was medical advice other than
suggesting additional testing. I do try to be cautious about stuff like
that for the very reason you mentioned.

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As a sidenote: There are many reasons calcium levels might be elevated.
Prolonged inactivity (bones require exercise and some stress load to
maintain), certain cancers (lung for example) and renal disease can
alter calcium levels. Post thyroidectomy patients get monitored because
of the proximity to the parathyroid glands during surgery.

'zactly. ;-)

Addtional testing is advisable, as is more _specific_ testing.

Cheers and thanks!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Goomba38 said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Om, you can answer me privately if you wish,
>
> In the blood tests that you see the calcium results of that are high
> (as
> mine is a point over) and has been; do you often/ or ever/ see just
> the
> calcium test re-run?
>
> Thanks, so much,
> Dee Dee

I've personally found that it varies with my daily diet and
supplements,
and especially what time I collect a sample vs. when I last took my
mineral supplements. It's always high if I collect it before, say, 6
hours after taking my pills or if I doubled the dose for some reason.
It
goes down after that.

It can also vary depending on how much dairy you are eating.

I know that working as a lab tech you process a lot of these labs. But
how much education do you get in interpretation of labs?

Enough to keep from turning out bad results that don't make sense. ;-)
A lot of correlation goes on.

Quoted message said:

My license to
practice and my malpractice insurance won't cover me for the free advice
given over the Internet. I have to be very cautious about what I
suggest... and in this instance I would suggest the OP talk directly to
his or her own doctor. We all remain safer that way. 🙂

I did suggest she simply ask her doc for a more specific test.
Note I did not suggest she change her diet/supplements, simply that they
can and do influence test results.

Any doc worth his/her salt will get tests repeated if they are off
and/or questionable.

I can't see anything in my post that was medical advice other than
suggesting additional testing. I do try to be cautious about stuff like
that for the very reason you mentioned.

Quoted message said:

As a sidenote: There are many reasons calcium levels might be elevated.
Prolonged inactivity (bones require exercise and some stress load to
maintain), certain cancers (lung for example) and renal disease can
alter calcium levels. Post thyroidectomy patients get monitored because
of the proximity to the parathyroid glands during surgery.

'zactly. ;-)

Addtional testing is advisable, as is more _specific_ testing.

Cheers and thanks!
--
Peace!
Om

Just an update. I did ask in the "get acquainted with your doctor"
appointment about this yesterday. Since there appears to be some concern
regarding this posting, I will say, thank you so much, Om, your generosity
is very much appreciated, and not post anything further.
You're the best, Om,
Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

Just an update. I did ask in the "get acquainted with your doctor"
appointment about this yesterday.

What did he/she say?

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Since there appears to be some concern
regarding this posting, I will say, thank you so much, Om, your generosity
is very much appreciated, and not post anything further.
You're the best, Om,
Dee Dee

Thanks luv. <G>
We can take it to private mail if you want...
Do you have my real addy?

I'm actually pretty cautious at work.
Some people ask for free profiles from time to time and I usually oblige
if they don't abuse it.

If something screwy turns up, I do let them know that something is not
right, then suggest that they take the results to their personal
physician and discuss it, or even suggest they talk to the ER doc on
duty if they have time for further referrals. I don't give them advice
as to what to do about it. Not my job. <G>

I'm blessed with an excellent doc. She is an internist and an
endocrinologist, and unlike many docs nowadays, up to date on current
nutritional research.

She supports the South Beach type dietary lifestyle and knows that sugar
and starch, not fat, raise triglyceride levels.

I mentioned the ionized calcium test as that is what _my_ doctor
requested when she saw mine was elevated.

I have also done frequent testing on myself for over 14 years and
experimented with diet, but since all humans are different, I can really
only apply what I've learned to myself. I do, however, have co-workers
that have done similar "experiments" so I think that there really are
some absolutes.

Yes, an elevated calcium level can indicate a serious medical condition
but not always. There are OH so MANY factors in interpreting lab
results! Patient history and symptoms are paramount to diagnosis as well
as correlation with other lab values. It's not unusual for myself or my
fellow team members to question screwy lab results before turning them
out. I'll often phone their nurse to see what is going on so that I can
correlate what we are getting before reporting it and see if possibly a
re-collect is indicated.

Sometimes something as simple as a screwed up collection can have
drastic consequences on the treatment of a patient so we have to be
careful. A lab test is only as good as the specimen you are running it
on, and there are factors that can influence that too. It's easy to
damage a blood sample during collection and processing.

It's not simple. Not at all......... That's what makes it such a
stressful job. ;-) I'll have been at it for 19 years as of July 13th.
But, it's a standing joke in the lab field that an MT knows just enough
to be dangerous. <G> I keep that in mind when trying to help.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

Just an update. I did ask in the "get acquainted with your doctor"
appointment about this yesterday.

What did he/she say?

She.
Basically, that she would check my parathyroid. But she didn't do it, since
my last test was 10.4 and the preference range was 8.5-10.4, so it was
within limits, whereas over the years, it has always been over - from the
10.7 to 10.9 range. So maybe it isn't as critical.

She is not a believer in tests and not a believer in my yearly physicals -
even though mine is thorough and by the same diagnostic clinic for 35 years
now and they keep track of my history. She thought that the blood tests the
clinic gives each year -- thryoid included, but not parathroid -- were
unnessary and informed me with a "tone" while she was reading them that "I
see you don't have syphillis."

Usually the doctor at the diagnostic clinic always suggests that when a test
is out of range, that it be prescribed and re-run by my physican. I've
never had one doctor follow their advise and re-run. If they have, I've
forgotten it.

It was not a profitable day; I was lucky that I had other things to think
about instead of thinking about the rudeness.
^*&^(%%&((%(%^%$##^_!!!

Thanks, Om for your lending your ear.
I know there are naturo-paths that are MD's, but very few, so if I try one
and she/he is snippy with me, I'm out of luck. <G>
I don't know if insurance covers naturopaths if they are MD's. Seems
there's something in there about it -- don't know at this point.
Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

Just an update. I did ask in the "get acquainted with your doctor"
appointment about this yesterday.

What did he/she say?

She.
Basically, that she would check my parathyroid. But she didn't do it, since
my last test was 10.4 and the preference range was 8.5-10.4, so it was
within limits, whereas over the years, it has always been over - from the
10.7 to 10.9 range. So maybe it isn't as critical.

She is not a believer in tests and not a believer in my yearly physicals -
even though mine is thorough and by the same diagnostic clinic for 35 years
now and they keep track of my history. She thought that the blood tests the
clinic gives each year -- thryoid included, but not parathroid -- were
unnessary and informed me with a "tone" while she was reading them that "I
see you don't have syphillis."

Usually the doctor at the diagnostic clinic always suggests that when a test
is out of range, that it be prescribed and re-run by my physican. I've
never had one doctor follow their advise and re-run. If they have, I've
forgotten it.

It was not a profitable day; I was lucky that I had other things to think
about instead of thinking about the rudeness.
^*&^(%%&((%(%^%$##^_!!!

Thanks, Om for your lending your ear.
I know there are naturo-paths that are MD's, but very few, so if I try one
and she/he is snippy with me, I'm out of luck. <G>
I don't know if insurance covers naturopaths if they are MD's. Seems
there's something in there about it -- don't know at this point.
Dee Dee

Well, if your regular MD is in willing touch with a Naturopath..... ;-)
That's the envious position I am in. She consults with two of the ER
MD's that I used to discuss this stuff with using "curbside
consultation". <lol>

Both of them study "complimentary medicine" on their own...
and are reliably good at it.

Cheers and hugs!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Just an update. I did ask in the "get acquainted with your doctor"
> appointment about this yesterday.

What did he/she say?

She.
Basically, that she would check my parathyroid. But she didn't do it,
since
my last test was 10.4 and the preference range was 8.5-10.4, so it was
within limits, whereas over the years, it has always been over - from the
10.7 to 10.9 range. So maybe it isn't as critical.

She is not a believer in tests and not a believer in my yearly
physicals -
even though mine is thorough and by the same diagnostic clinic for 35
years
now and they keep track of my history. She thought that the blood tests
the
clinic gives each year -- thryoid included, but not parathroid -- were
unnessary and informed me with a "tone" while she was reading them that
"I
see you don't have syphillis."

Usually the doctor at the diagnostic clinic always suggests that when a
test
is out of range, that it be prescribed and re-run by my physican. I've
never had one doctor follow their advise and re-run. If they have, I've
forgotten it.

It was not a profitable day; I was lucky that I had other things to think
about instead of thinking about the rudeness.
^*&^(%%&((%(%^%$##^_!!!

Thanks, Om for your lending your ear.
I know there are naturo-paths that are MD's, but very few, so if I try
one
and she/he is snippy with me, I'm out of luck. <G>
I don't know if insurance covers naturopaths if they are MD's. Seems
there's something in there about it -- don't know at this point.
Dee Dee

Well, if your regular MD is in willing touch with a Naturopath..... ;-)
That's the envious position I am in. She consults with two of the ER
MD's that I used to discuss this stuff with using "curbside
consultation". <lol>

Both of them study "complimentary medicine" on their own...
and are reliably good at it.

Cheers and hugs!

You're so lucky. No, this MD I saw yesterday states proudly she follows the
guidelines of American Cancer Society and ran down a litany of the
organizations she adheres "strictly" to their guidelines.

So much for getting recommendations from receptionists of a 'wellness-type
MD" who isn't taking new patients, who sends me to this kind of MD. I was
sorely disappointed; however, not surprised.

I'm going to have to do some research in the next months for a
doctor/dentist. I'm trying not to get worried about it and keep a cool
head. I've tried to find a geriaentologist (sp?), but they are not
available. But, shouldn't every MD be somewhat qualified to take care of
geriatric patients? On some level at least.

Cheers and hugs to you, too.
Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

You're so lucky. No, this MD I saw yesterday states proudly she follows the
guidelines of American Cancer Society and ran down a litany of the
organizations she adheres "strictly" to their guidelines.

I'm so sorry... :-(
Can you not see a different one?

I'm limited in choices by who honors my health plan, but I still get to
select somewhat.

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So much for getting recommendations from receptionists of a 'wellness-type
MD" who isn't taking new patients, who sends me to this kind of MD. I was
sorely disappointed; however, not surprised.

Ugh. So this one was a referral?

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I'm going to have to do some research in the next months for a
doctor/dentist. I'm trying not to get worried about it and keep a cool
head. I've tried to find a geriaentologist (sp?), but they are not
available. But, shouldn't every MD be somewhat qualified to take care of
geriatric patients? On some level at least.

One would hope. :-(
Good hunting and best wishes dear!

Where do you live approximately?

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Cheers and hugs to you, too.
Dee Dee

:-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Can you not see a different one?

Yes, I have my choice of doctors -- to find one that's not wasting my time
and my health -- that's another story. :-))

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Ugh. So this one was a referral?

Yes, I cannot imagine a doctor's office who's only doctor is only taking new
accupuncture patients to recommend this one to me, who IMO probably if she
heard the word accupuncture, probably has an attack.

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Where do you live approximately?

I do have a good proximity to Washington DC - approx 90 miles; Johns Hopkins
approx 130 miles; University of Virginia approx 115 miles. So some of the
doctors here in the Shenandoah Valley, VA, have done their residency in one
of those teaching hospitals. This is what I usually look for in a doctor.
The one yesterday I went to only because I had called the wellness-doctor
that I had wanted for many years and got a recommendation for the one I went
to yesterday. Yikes -- I'm still smartin'. - tee hee

We don't live in a depressed area -- I just heard the out-of-work statistics
this morning of this county and surrounding counties. Most are in the 1-2%
range, so the doctors should be flooding in.

Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Can you not see a different one?

Yes, I have my choice of doctors -- to find one that's not wasting my time
and my health -- that's another story. :-))

Talk to some of the local nurses.

Seriously.

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Ugh. So this one was a referral?

Yes, I cannot imagine a doctor's office who's only doctor is only taking new
accupuncture patients to recommend this one to me, who IMO probably if she
heard the word accupuncture, probably has an attack.

That's just...

weird.

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Where do you live approximately?

I do have a good proximity to Washington DC - approx 90 miles; Johns Hopkins
approx 130 miles; University of Virginia approx 115 miles. So some of the
doctors here in the Shenandoah Valley, VA, have done their residency in one
of those teaching hospitals. This is what I usually look for in a doctor.
The one yesterday I went to only because I had called the wellness-doctor
that I had wanted for many years and got a recommendation for the one I went
to yesterday. Yikes -- I'm still smartin'. - tee hee

We don't live in a depressed area -- I just heard the out-of-work statistics
this morning of this county and surrounding counties. Most are in the 1-2%
range, so the doctors should be flooding in.

Dee Dee

Ask around.
Get a referral.

Do you think something is seriously wrong?
How are you feeling?
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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Do you think something is seriously wrong?
How are you feeling?
--
Peace!
Om

Thanks for your information.
No, I'm feeling OK healthwise; it's just that when in the last few months,
recommendations are made by my yearly diagnostic clinic, when I had a
hideous reaction to an antibiotic, when I got cellulitis & ended up in ER,
when I go to get my yearly cancer check-up and their recommendations, etc.
these were things that should be followed by an internist, a family doctor;
and when I say I don't have one, it's uppermost in my mind, I need a
dependable doctor. During these last months, my current internist was
unresponsive to my needs. His nurse and his PA's were in the same.
Yeow!
I can't talk about it anymore today!
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

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Do you think something is seriously wrong?
How are you feeling?
--
Peace!
Om

Thanks for your information.
No, I'm feeling OK healthwise; it's just that when in the last few months,
recommendations are made by my yearly diagnostic clinic, when I had a
hideous reaction to an antibiotic, when I got cellulitis & ended up in ER,
when I go to get my yearly cancer check-up and their recommendations, etc.
these were things that should be followed by an internist, a family doctor;
and when I say I don't have one, it's uppermost in my mind, I need a
dependable doctor. During these last months, my current internist was
unresponsive to my needs. His nurse and his PA's were in the same.
Yeow!
I can't talk about it anymore today!
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee

I understand...
Keep looking and good hunting! :-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

Dee Randall said:

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Do you think something is seriously wrong?
How are you feeling?
--
Peace!
Om

Thanks for your information.
No, I'm feeling OK healthwise; it's just that when in the last few months,
recommendations are made by my yearly diagnostic clinic, when I had a
hideous reaction to an antibiotic, when I got cellulitis & ended up in ER,
when I go to get my yearly cancer check-up and their recommendations, etc.
these were things that should be followed by an internist, a family doctor;
and when I say I don't have one, it's uppermost in my mind, I need a
dependable doctor. During these last months, my current internist was
unresponsive to my needs. His nurse and his PA's were in the same.
Yeow!
I can't talk about it anymore today!
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee

All this talk about calcium has got me out of the woodwork. My longtime
GP up and died of cancer a few years ago, just as I was starting to feel
I was suffering from muscle weakness. Several times I mention this to
the next bloke. I would say "I'm feeling muscle weakness, do you suppose
this is to be expected at my age with my disability?" He would just nod
and go back to worrying about all his patients with AIDS (his area of
interest). Eventually I got really worried and consulted the clinic's
womens' health expert. Well, I thought it might somehow be hormonal.

She listened to me, and ran the usual tests you do for women of a
certain age. The bone densitometry showed significant osteoporosis. So
she tested for calcium and bingo! Hyperparathyroid adenoma, a big one as
it turned out which had probably been developing for years. Ironically
she was on holiday when the results came back, and Dr Don'tworryaboutit
had to give me the news! It really should have been picked up at least
six months earlier.

The good doctor has a devoted local following, and for good reason.
You've got to have a doctor who listens to you.

Christine

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Dee Randall said:

Quoted message said:

Do you think something is seriously wrong?
How are you feeling?
--
Peace!
Om

Thanks for your information.
No, I'm feeling OK healthwise; it's just that when in the last few
months, recommendations are made by my yearly diagnostic clinic, when I
had a hideous reaction to an antibiotic, when I got cellulitis & ended up
in ER, when I go to get my yearly cancer check-up and their
recommendations, etc. these were things that should be followed by an
internist, a family doctor; and when I say I don't have one, it's
uppermost in my mind, I need a dependable doctor. During these last
months, my current internist was unresponsive to my needs. His nurse and
his PA's were in the same.
Yeow!
I can't talk about it anymore today!
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee

All this talk about calcium has got me out of the woodwork. My longtime GP
up and died of cancer a few years ago, just as I was starting to feel I
was suffering from muscle weakness. Several times I mention this to the
next bloke. I would say "I'm feeling muscle weakness, do you suppose this
is to be expected at my age with my disability?" He would just nod and go
back to worrying about all his patients with AIDS (his area of interest).
Eventually I got really worried and consulted the clinic's womens' health
expert. Well, I thought it might somehow be hormonal.

She listened to me, and ran the usual tests you do for women of a certain
age. The bone densitometry showed significant osteoporosis. So she tested
for calcium and bingo! Hyperparathyroid adenoma, a big one as it turned
out which had probably been developing for years. Ironically she was on
holiday when the results came back, and Dr Don'tworryaboutit had to give
me the news! It really should have been picked up at least six months
earlier.

The good doctor has a devoted local following, and for good reason. You've
got to have a doctor who listens to you.

Christine

Christine! Thank you!
These kinds of information stirs me up to try to find - not a geriatric
physican, because there are none available for new patients - but a women's
clinic or wellness center of some sort; if nothing else to get a listening
ear to send me somewhere else. Somehow I just know that being out of range
is not good -- why not do the test over and see for sure.

DH's Top Doctor ordered a blood test for him which results were so far off
they decided that the lab had made a mistake. For the life of me, I can't
remember if they redid it or not. So often little mistakes like this are
made. F-i-l's colonoscopy was not completed and he never went back for
another one -- just several years later he had colon cancer.

I think we have to be diligent and we need help from friends (like you) who
want to help others.
My many thanks,
Dee Dee
PS, Has anyone read the book by Kevin Trudeau -- that's something to chew
on! I'd be glad to hear anyone's opinion, pro or con, on that.

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Old Mother Ashby said:

Dee Randall said:

Quoted message said:

Do you think something is seriously wrong?
How are you feeling?
--
Peace!
Om

Thanks for your information.
No, I'm feeling OK healthwise; it's just that when in the last few months,
recommendations are made by my yearly diagnostic clinic, when I had a
hideous reaction to an antibiotic, when I got cellulitis & ended up in ER,
when I go to get my yearly cancer check-up and their recommendations, etc.
these were things that should be followed by an internist, a family doctor;
and when I say I don't have one, it's uppermost in my mind, I need a
dependable doctor. During these last months, my current internist was
unresponsive to my needs. His nurse and his PA's were in the same.
Yeow!
I can't talk about it anymore today!
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee

All this talk about calcium has got me out of the woodwork. My longtime
GP up and died of cancer a few years ago, just as I was starting to feel
I was suffering from muscle weakness. Several times I mention this to
the next bloke. I would say "I'm feeling muscle weakness, do you suppose
this is to be expected at my age with my disability?" He would just nod
and go back to worrying about all his patients with AIDS (his area of
interest). Eventually I got really worried and consulted the clinic's
womens' health expert. Well, I thought it might somehow be hormonal.

She listened to me, and ran the usual tests you do for women of a
certain age. The bone densitometry showed significant osteoporosis. So
she tested for calcium and bingo! Hyperparathyroid adenoma, a big one as
it turned out which had probably been developing for years. Ironically
she was on holiday when the results came back, and Dr Don'tworryaboutit
had to give me the news! It really should have been picked up at least
six months earlier.

The good doctor has a devoted local following, and for good reason.
You've got to have a doctor who listens to you.

Christine

Did you have surgery?
You gonna be ok???????? :-o

Hugs!!!!!!!!!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

"Old Mother Ashby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Dee Randall said:

> Do you think something is seriously wrong?
> How are you feeling?
> --
> Peace!
> Om
>

Thanks for your information.
No, I'm feeling OK healthwise; it's just that when in the last few
months, recommendations are made by my yearly diagnostic clinic, when I
had a hideous reaction to an antibiotic, when I got cellulitis & ended up
in ER, when I go to get my yearly cancer check-up and their
recommendations, etc. these were things that should be followed by an
internist, a family doctor; and when I say I don't have one, it's
uppermost in my mind, I need a dependable doctor. During these last
months, my current internist was unresponsive to my needs. His nurse and
his PA's were in the same.
Yeow!
I can't talk about it anymore today!
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee

All this talk about calcium has got me out of the woodwork. My longtime GP
up and died of cancer a few years ago, just as I was starting to feel I
was suffering from muscle weakness. Several times I mention this to the
next bloke. I would say "I'm feeling muscle weakness, do you suppose this
is to be expected at my age with my disability?" He would just nod and go
back to worrying about all his patients with AIDS (his area of interest).
Eventually I got really worried and consulted the clinic's womens' health
expert. Well, I thought it might somehow be hormonal.

She listened to me, and ran the usual tests you do for women of a certain
age. The bone densitometry showed significant osteoporosis. So she tested
for calcium and bingo! Hyperparathyroid adenoma, a big one as it turned
out which had probably been developing for years. Ironically she was on
holiday when the results came back, and Dr Don'tworryaboutit had to give
me the news! It really should have been picked up at least six months
earlier.

The good doctor has a devoted local following, and for good reason. You've
got to have a doctor who listens to you.

Christine

Christine! Thank you!
These kinds of information stirs me up to try to find - not a geriatric
physican, because there are none available for new patients - but a women's
clinic or wellness center of some sort; if nothing else to get a listening
ear to send me somewhere else. Somehow I just know that being out of range
is not good -- why not do the test over and see for sure.

DH's Top Doctor ordered a blood test for him which results were so far off
they decided that the lab had made a mistake. For the life of me, I can't
remember if they redid it or not. So often little mistakes like this are
made. F-i-l's colonoscopy was not completed and he never went back for
another one -- just several years later he had colon cancer.

I think we have to be diligent and we need help from friends (like you) who
want to help others.
My many thanks,
Dee Dee
PS, Has anyone read the book by Kevin Trudeau -- that's something to chew
on! I'd be glad to hear anyone's opinion, pro or con, on that.

Indeed....... Cumulative experiences, stories, and diligence in prodding
the docs by the patients can help.

Advice from strangers on the internet? Ok by me. I have the choice
whether or not to listen, but at least we get more viewpoints than those
few from an overworked doc' that does not want anything to be wrong, or
wants the lab to agree with his current diagnosis. <G>

I've gotten THAT [censored] more than once from the ER, where the doc jokingly
asked me "please give me such and such a result so I can finish up".

Yeah right. Bite me. <lol>

I work my ass off to make damned careful sure you get accuracy.
If you don't like the results, tough sh**. Look deeper. ;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson