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Little Malice said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
his job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

My sympathies.

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Oh pshaw, on Fri 30 Nov 2007 12:57:28p, Little Malice meant to say...

Quoted message said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

Jani, I'm so sorry to hear that. This is a particularly crappy time of
year to be laid off. I hope the situation improves very soon!

Many years ago I was laid off on Christmas Eve. My parents were out of
town for the duration of the holidays, and I was living alone and not in a
relationship at the time. That was a truly black Christmas. :-( I sat at
the piano endlessly playing "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" and
crying. (I'm a sentimental slob.)

You really have to wonder at the sadistic nature of any employer who'd
lay someone off on Christmas Eve. My god that's horrible!

Quoted message said:

Keep a stiff upper lip, and since hubby is working, hopefully you can still
have a wonderful holiday.

Best always...

Little Malice said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

You don't know me from Adam, but you certainly have my sympathy; I was
once laid off on a Friday just after everyone else left the office and
as I was supposed to be starting a week's vacation; apparently my
employer didn't want anyone to know what had happened.

flitterbit said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Oh pshaw, on Fri 30 Nov 2007 12:57:28p, Little Malice meant to say...

Quoted message said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I
can sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

Jani, I'm so sorry to hear that. This is a particularly crappy time
of year to be laid off. I hope the situation improves very soon!

Many years ago I was laid off on Christmas Eve. My parents were out
of town for the duration of the holidays, and I was living alone and
not in a relationship at the time. That was a truly black
Christmas. :-( I sat at the piano endlessly playing "Have Yourself
A Merry Little Christmas" and crying. (I'm a sentimental slob.)

You really have to wonder at the sadistic nature of any employer who'd
lay someone off on Christmas Eve. My god that's horrible!

Quoted message said:

Keep a stiff upper lip, and since hubby is working, hopefully you
can still have a wonderful holiday.

Best always...

Many years ago, we married in October, broke but happy. On Christmas Eve
my husband was laid off. That was an indescribably lean and hungry
Christmas. A pox on all employers who do that.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:57:28 GMT, [email hidden] (Little

Malice) said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

Sorry to hear abut this.

Lou

(Little Malice) said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

--
Jani in WA

Bummer! Any other jobs like that around, or will you be seeking
another field?

Good luck, and be sure to clean up your on-line profile before job
hunting<g>

maxine in ri

One time on Usenet said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

Wow, what an outpouring of good wishes! You guys really cheered
me up. I also appreciate the advice -- DH and I have much to talk
about when he gets home (it's only 4:30 PM or so here). Anyway,
thanks so much... :-)

--
Jani in WA

Little Malice said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

--
Jani in WA

Sorry to hear that! It's not nice at any time of year.
Good luck with the job search and eat some comfort food.

On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:47:46 GMT, [email hidden] (Little

Malice) said:

One time on Usenet said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

Wow, what an outpouring of good wishes! You guys really cheered
me up. I also appreciate the advice -- DH and I have much to talk
about when he gets home (it's only 4:30 PM or so here). Anyway,
thanks so much... :-)

It's hard to believe things will be ok until everything falls into
place. Last summer we had a house on the market we couldn't sell. At
the time we had three places and 3 kids in college. Things were
pretty tight. Louise got "let go" in June. Somehow we made it.
Luckily the house sold a few weeks after she stopped working. She
casually looked for a job and I slowed down and didn't work as much.
We pretty much took 5 months off. Now 2 of the kids are out of
school, I'm back taking more assignments, and Louise took a new job
with a 5 dollar an hour increase plus benefits far better than she's
ever had. It's a train friendly location so she doesn't even have to
drive. They pay for her train ticket. A one hour paid lunch doesn't
hurt things either.

I'm sure things will be ok for you Jani. Probably not tomorrow, but
soon enough. Good luck and happy cooking.

Lou

"Little Malice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

--
Jani in WA

Take the weekend off to spoil yourself, then get yourself out there.
Hope you get another job soon, and life gets better.

Take care

Sarah

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:34:36 -0500, "limey" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Many years ago, we married in October, broke but happy. On Christmas Eve
my husband was laid off. That was an indescribably lean and hungry
Christmas. A pox on all employers who do that.

I don't know why, but this is the season when those things happen.

My son was laid off by his employer a few years ago. His department
moved to another state and he didn't follow it, so he was part of the
skeleton crew that closed down the office here. He was supposed to
start unemployment in January, but they closed the office at the end
of November.... and paid him full salary for the month of December!
He was on unemployment for whatever number of months and heard at a
party (later in the year) that the company was hiring again. He
interviewed and was rehired in a different department. On top of
being rehired, he was given a hiring bonus because he was a returning
employee.

I was amazed... happy, but amazed.

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sf said:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:34:36 -0500, "limey" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Many years ago, we married in October, broke but happy. On Christmas
Eve my husband was laid off. That was an indescribably lean and
hungry Christmas. A pox on all employers who do that.

I don't know why, but this is the season when those things happen.

My son was laid off by his employer a few years ago. His department
moved to another state and he didn't follow it, so he was part of the
skeleton crew that closed down the office here. He was supposed to
start unemployment in January, but they closed the office at the end
of November.... and paid him full salary for the month of December!
He was on unemployment for whatever number of months and heard at a
party (later in the year) that the company was hiring again. He
interviewed and was rehired in a different department. On top of
being rehired, he was given a hiring bonus because he was a returning
employee.

I was amazed... happy, but amazed.

Great! A story with a happy ending.

In article <[email hidden]>,

jmcquown said:

Dave Bugg said:

Little Malice said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I
can sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

What a bummer. Hopefully your unemployment insurance will help a bit
until you can find something else. If I could, I'd give you a great,
big box of dark chocolates to help mellow yer mood :-)

It's too bad unemployment insurance only lasts about 6 weeks.

I think she lives in Seattle. I lived there a long time ago. I thought
it was more like 6 months. And then they just extended it. There were
people collecting for a couple of years. Still, it is a state benefit
so it varies by state in the US. Don't know about the rest of the world.

Quoted message said:

And it's a
pittance compared to what you earned.

Pays for the food and beer. Maybe even the rent.

Quoted message said:

But I couldn't get any help at all for medical and no help to pay my other
bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't one
get credit for not popping out kid after kid after kid?

Here in California, there is no welfare for adults. It's for the kids.
They cost money. I've had them (still have three, but they are adults
with jobs).

People with little kids either stay home and take care of them, or if
they get a job, they have to pay childcare. Welfare isn't the free ride
that some people think it is.

Quoted message said:

If you've paid into the system I say certainly reap what you've sowed if you
need to. But don't continue to allow multi-generations to abuse it. (This
will be a very unpopular opinion.)

It doesn't sit well with me. These programs are safety nets. There are
people who need this through no fault of their own. There are also
people who abuse them. You and I can tell the difference, but darned if
I could come up with a foolproof rule that could be written down to tell
the difference.

"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you've paid into the system I say certainly reap what you've sowed if
you
need to. But don't continue to allow multi-generations to abuse it.
(This
will be a very unpopular opinion.)

It doesn't sit well with me. These programs are safety nets. There are
people who need this through no fault of their own. There are also
people who abuse them. You and I can tell the difference, but darned if
I could come up with a foolproof rule that could be written down to tell
the difference.

They have put time limits on how long able bodied people can collect
welfare here, also there is no raise in pay for further babies born to
people
on welfare. Much screaming ensued, but I think it's all still in effect.

nancy

jmcquown said:

Dave Bugg said:

Little Malice said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I
can sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

What a bummer. Hopefully your unemployment insurance will help a bit
until you can find something else. If I could, I'd give you a great,
big box of dark chocolates to help mellow yer mood :-)

It's too bad unemployment insurance only lasts about 6 weeks. And it's a
pittance compared to what you earned. I suppose something is better than
nothing, but still... you pay into the system for years and get nothing
back. Ticks me off. That's why when I was able to get food stamps I
certainly took advantage of it. I'd been paying into the system for (at
least) 25 years. So hell yes, I used them.

But I couldn't get any help at all for medical and no help to pay my other
bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't one
get credit for not popping out kid after kid after kid? They then have
other kids who are living off of and learning to live off the system. How
about set that money aside for scholarships?Don't put it in the hands of
people who abuse the system. A children's trust fund. Money allotted for
college. If they don't go to college, they don't get a dime. You don't
even have to have more than a dime.

If you've paid into the system I say certainly reap what you've sowed if you
need to. But don't continue to allow multi-generations to abuse it. (This
will be a very unpopular opinion.)

Jill

no one deserves government benefits but oneself? i would say that's a
very popular opinion.

but, by all means pat yourself on the back for not having children and
bucking popular opinion.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

but, by all means pat yourself on the back for not having children and
bucking popular opinion.

I for one feel very grateful that Jill never had children.

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:46:19 -0600, "jmcquown"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't one

Quoted message said:

no one deserves government benefits but oneself? i would say that's a
very popular opinion.

but, by all means pat yourself on the back for not having children and
bucking popular opinion.

Some people aren't meant to have children. I feel very strongly that I
won't encourage these people to have children. Children are sometimes
very difficult. I should know, I've had three. It's not like there
aren't enough. Overpopulation is a problem in many countries.

"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Some people aren't meant to have children. I feel very strongly that I
won't encourage these people to have children. Children are sometimes
very difficult. I should know, I've had three. It's not like there
aren't enough. Overpopulation is a problem in many countries.

And wayyy too many people have children because "that's just what
you do."

That's about the only commendable thing I've been able to see about
Jill, from what she posts here. She may be a drunk, self-absorbed
blithering idiot, but at least she was smart enough not to have kids.

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

jmcquown said:

bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't one

no one deserves government benefits but oneself? i would say that's a
very popular opinion.

Quoted message said:

but, by all means pat yourself on the back for not having children and
bucking popular opinion.

Some people aren't meant to have children. I feel very strongly that I
won't encourage these people to have children. Children are sometimes
very difficult. I should know, I've had three. It's not like there
aren't enough. Overpopulation is a problem in many countries.

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:46:19 -0600, "jmcquown"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't one

Quoted message said:

no one deserves government benefits but oneself? i would say that's a
very popular opinion.

but, by all means pat yourself on the back for not having children and
bucking popular opinion.

Some people aren't meant to have children. I feel very strongly that I
won't encourage these people to have children. Children are sometimes
very difficult. I should know, I've had three. It's not like there
aren't enough. Overpopulation is a problem in many countries.

Overpopulation is a problem in the ENTIRE world. Mother earth can
only support so much. She's about pushed to the limit.

Lou