OT: Paul Smith Spanked Again

Tom said:

doesn't this mean that the drivers are speeding in the most unlikely places?

Yeah... Just think how many speeding drivers the police would catch if
they put them in the most /likely/ places!

If they are really meant to be revenue-raising devices, the police are
surely missing a trick. Talk about money for old rope...

d.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:54:56 +0000 (UTC), "Tom"
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Seen in this months Mobility Today magazine:

It might be worth writing to them to point out that they are almost
certainly right about the blue badge bays, as Smith is on record as
saying he can't see why disabled people should get special treatment
and sees nothing wrong with parking in blue badge bays.

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Just zis Guy said:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:54:56 +0000 (UTC), "Tom"
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Quoted message said:

Seen in this months Mobility Today magazine:

It might be worth writing to them to point out that they are almost
certainly right about the blue badge bays, as Smith is on record as
saying he can't see why disabled people should get special treatment
and sees nothing wrong with parking in blue badge bays.

Thanks for that, I dug around a little and amongst other gems found this:

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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:40:37 +0100, "Shelley" <[email hidden]>

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I suppose this will go on as long as some motorists have the attitude
that they can park where they like as their convenience is more important
than anyone else's.

Don't get me started on the shamefulness of drivers who use disabled
spaces,
leaving genuinely disabled people unable to park!!!

Why? Are you genuinely disabled?

Personally I don't see why disabled folk should get special treatment.

If it goes on like this we'll just have to cripple everyone to bring
them down to the level of the disabled - it's only fair.

[flame proof suit on]
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Scotland, UK
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speed cameras cost lives

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I'll be forwarding this, and other quotes like it to the publication in
question.

Tom

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Just zis Guy said:

Tom said:

Seen in this months Mobility Today magazine:

It might be worth writing to them to point out that they are almost
certainly right about the blue badge bays, as Smith is on record as
saying he can't see why disabled people should get special treatment
and sees nothing wrong with parking in blue badge bays.

That's only true if Smith is representative of speeding motorists in
general.

quote='Tom'Just zis Guy said:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:54:56 +0000 (UTC), "Tom"
<[email hidden]> said in
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Quoted message said:

Seen in this months Mobility Today magazine:

It might be worth writing to them to point out that they are almost
certainly right about the blue badge bays, as Smith is on record as
saying he can't see why disabled people should get special treatment
and sees nothing wrong with parking in blue badge bays.

Thanks for that, I dug around a little and amongst other gems found this:

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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:40:37 +0100, "Shelley" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I suppose this will go on as long as some motorists have the attitude
that they can park where they like as their convenience is more important
than anyone else's.

Don't get me started on the shamefulness of drivers who use disabled
spaces,
leaving genuinely disabled people unable to park!!!

Why? Are you genuinely disabled?

Personally I don't see why disabled folk should get special treatment.

If it goes on like this we'll just have to cripple everyone to bring
them down to the level of the disabled - it's only fair.

[flame proof suit on]
--
Paul Smith
Scotland, UK
http://www.safespeed.org.uk
please remove "XYZ" to reply by email
speed cameras cost lives

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I'll be forwarding this, and other quotes like it to the publication in
question.

Tom

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I hate to look like I am having any sympathy for that vile individual but I do think there are too many disabled parking bays in a typical supermarket. At our local Asda there are loads of them. Maybe local disabled people get together to do a synchronised shopping spree? I think they race each other up the aisles on their wheelchairs. (shame on me)

I never park in them by the way.

That reminds me. I went on that man's website and was amazed that people didn't think speeding was serious!

I think your average Paul Smith supporter is also the type who thinks the police 'should get after real criminals.' Well considering we all have to hear about how someone has been raped or murdered everyday whilst we eat our dinners then we can safely assume that these are real criminals and more to the point we should all be shocked and horrified that one person has died unnaturally as they tell us we should on the news and in the papers.

So when you consider the fact that 3500 people are killed a year by motorists, which is considerably more than the mere 100 killed by murderers and 600 odd raped people, then we should conclude that the police are being asked by the Paul Smith types to go after the biggest criminal gangs in the UK. Forget the Crips or the Bloods these scumbags are the Motorists and they're everywhere! Be worried. Very Worried. They dont even stop at the children :eek:

MichaelB said:

I hate to look like I am having any sympathy for that vile individual
but I do think there are too many disabled parking bays in a typical
supermarket. At our local Asda there are loads of them. Maybe local
disabled people get together to do a synchronised shopping spree? I
think they race each other up the aisles on their wheelchairs. (shame
on me)

It's just as well there are loads of them, since half of them will be used
by able-bodied drivers anyway! ISTR someone posting on here about rilling
one such offender; whose response was "I had to park here -- all the other
spaces are full and no-one was using it."!

MichaelB said:

That reminds me. I went on that man's website and was amazed that
people didn't think speeding was serious!

I think your average Paul Smith supporter is also the type who thinks
the police 'should get after real criminals.'

I noticed yesterday that Kent County Council have launched an anti-speeding
campaign. The billboard features a request for motorists: 'Please don't
speed.' Interestingly, we don't see anti-drug or anti-burglary posters
couched in quite such polite terms!

Tom said:

They are
harder to spot and turn up in the most unlikely places, so it's no surprise
they are keeping quiet.

They generally turn up in the same places just on random days and
times. The locations are well advertised in the local papers i(round
here they are anyway) and I think there's even a website telling you
where they can be found!

peter

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Sorry, no scanner, but it's short so I'll just type it out.

Seen in this months Mobility Today magazine:

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Q, Is it just me or do there seem to be more speed cameras about?

"Most motorists know where the fixed speed cameras are located
so the camera partnerships have increased activity of mobile units"

My reply to a a local newsgroup:

The reason the camera was plonked in the position it was is CLEAR. It

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is not about safety. It is about racking up money in the bank.

In that case, simply plonk one at the bus depot at the bottom of Anlaby Road
flyover and watch the money flood in. Come to think of it, put one in Anlaby
Road bus lane every evening and double your money. Then you could go down
Willerby Road and Spring Bank West in the dark and collect a fine from
everyone parking on the road with no lights on.

No, if it was about making money, there wouldn't be a big double paged
spread in the paper *telling* you where they are going to be, regular alerts
on Radio
Humberside, plus big signs saying "Speed Cameras" with a picture of a camera
next to it. The fixed camera in Spring Bank is bright yellow. How many clues
do people need, for heaven's sake?

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Then you could go down
Willerby Road and Spring Bank West in the dark and collect a fine from
everyone parking on the road with no lights on.

Uhh? That requirement went out soon after the man with the red flag.

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Then you could go down
Willerby Road and Spring Bank West in the dark and collect a fine from
everyone parking on the road with no lights on.

Uhh? That requirement went out soon after the man with the red flag.

They are both 40 mph limit roads and therefore:

223: All vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or a
lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph.

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Simon Mason
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Tony W said:

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Then you could go down Willerby Road and Spring Bank West in the dark
and collect a fine from everyone parking on the road with no lights on.

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Uhh? That requirement went out soon after the man with the red flag.

Unless the speed limit is greater than 30mph:

223: All vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or
a lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph. Law RVLR reg
24

There's a good income to be had even in a 30 area though:

222: You MUST NOT park on a road at night facing against the direction
of the traffic flow unless in a recognised parking space. Laws CUR reg 101
& RVLR reg 24

Mike

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There's a good income to be had even in a 30 area though:

222: You MUST NOT park on a road at night facing against the direction
of the traffic flow unless in a recognised parking space. Laws CUR reg
101
& RVLR reg 24

That reminds me of a newspaper story a while ago. Some snotty old bag rang
up the police and reported that there was a gang of youths in her street
milling about one night, offences were occurring and she demanded that the
police come and sort it out. When the police arrived, there was no signs of
the youths, only a street full of Mercs, Beemers and 4X4s, most of them
facing the wrong way. The police then did their job...

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Simon Mason said:

They are both 40 mph limit roads and therefore:

223: All vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or a
lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph.

There must be a bit more context to this, otherwise it would be illegal
for me to park my vehicle (bike) in a lay-by without leaving the lights
on it in the middle of the day...

JimP

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Simon Mason said:

They are both 40 mph limit roads and therefore:

223: All vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or a
lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph.

There must be a bit more context to this, otherwise it would be illegal
for me to park my vehicle (bike) in a lay-by without leaving the lights on
it in the middle of the day...

I think it has to be dark first for you to be required to display parking
lights! The rule is a bit out of context, it comes under the heading
"Parking at night" in the HC.

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Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

Simon Bennett said:

I noticed yesterday that Kent County Council have launched an anti-speeding
campaign. The billboard features a request for motorists: 'Please don't
speed.'

I saw one of those ads in Margate at the weekend. I was squinting so
hard to make out the words "please don't speed", plastered up there in,
ooh, what could it be - 8pt type? - that I nearly drove into the back of
the car in front.

d.

MichaelB said:

Maybe local
disabled people get together to do a synchronised shopping spree?

No, but nor do "they" have a rota to ensure that they don't accidentally
all turn up at the same time.

I have a lot of sympathy for the disabled. What bothers me is how
apparently easy it is to get a blue badge - my wife's cousin has one and
she is perhaps the least deserving case you could imagine.

d.

Simon Mason said:

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Simon Mason said:

They are both 40 mph limit roads and therefore:

223: All vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or a
lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph.

There must be a bit more context to this, otherwise it would be illegal
for me to park my vehicle (bike) in a lay-by without leaving the lights on
it in the middle of the day...

I think it has to be dark first for you to be required to display parking
lights! The rule is a bit out of context, it comes under the heading
"Parking at night" in the HC.

Is there a bit of context about vehicles being specifically motor
vehicles too? Or does "vehicle" include my bike?

JimP