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"John" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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The man came over and tried to get the pup out of Tyson's mouth. He put

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hand in his mouth, instead of pinching his jowls, and pried the pup out
while taking a couple bites to his hand. She said there was blood
everywhere. The cops showed up and took statements. I'm not worried about
getting sued, because it's not all Tyson's fault. If the man would've had

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hold of the leash, like he should've, this wouldn't have happened.

I can't help you on the behavioral end, but you might want to think about
changing Tyson's name prior to his court appearance.

John wrote:
So, what do you think? TIA.

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Get a smaller dog or a bigger wife.

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You seem to know your dogs, so tell me what you think (or anyone,
really):

My lab, Tyson, is 2 years old, neutered, and I've had him since he was 5
weeks old. His first year was spent with my other dog, a beagle. I did
all his obedience training prior to meeting my wife a year ago. He
listens to me indoors and out, but will only listen to my wife indoors.
She has not worked with him on his obedience training, so I believe that
is why he doesn't really listen to her.

I have been away on business since mid-January, so my wife as had to
take care of him. A couple days ago, she walked with him to the
elementary school to walk the
kids home. She says another man brought his puppy to pick up his kids.
She says Tyson tried to get away to get at the other dog. She was able
to calm him down and he laid down.

The other man was walking home with his kids, on the other sidewalk, and
his pup got away. She said he didn't have a tight grip on the leash. The
pup came running over to where Tyson was, and he went nuts. He drug my
wife across the lawn. She said he had his choker on, but he was choking
himself and barking the mean lab bark, not the high pitched playing
bark. He got to the pup and bit it around its neck and started shaking
it like it was one of his toys.

The man came over and tried to get the pup out of Tyson's mouth. He put
his hand in his mouth, instead of pinching his jowls, and pried the pup
out while taking a couple bites to his hand. She said there was blood
everywhere. The cops showed up and took statements. I'm not worried
about getting sued, because it's not all Tyson's fault. If the man
would've had a hold of the leash, like he should've, this wouldn't have
happened.

The problem is my wife is EXTREMELY upset, and I'm 2500 miles from home.
She took him to the vet and he could not find anything physically wrong
with him. He said he was depressed and prescribed clomipramine (which I
have my doubts of). I'd like her to take obedience classes with him, so
he'll listen to her better. I've even thought about getting a shock
collar and having her go through training with him. So, what do you
think? TIA.

Yes obedience classes--they'll also work on socialization. How is he with
other dogs in general? It's not normal to go after a pup that way, but it
wasn't a normal situation from the dog's point of view anyway.

Also--and this isn't a real fix, but it may be useful--there are leads
that have a loop around the dog's muzzle and the leash attaches there.
When the dog pulls, it pulls his head around and the dog stops pulling.
Way better than any other system I've ever tried and will proabably let
your wife handle such a situation.

Hugh

--
Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

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And fire that goddamn vet!

David

David,

A few months ago, we rescued an abandoned little teacup poodle...
She weighs about 4 lbs. and is both blind and deaf. :-( I'd have surgery
on her eyes if I could afford it, but it's $1,200 per eye for cataract
removal.

Due to her condition, she is no longer house trained but I have a good
environmentally controlled place to keep her where this does not matter.
I simply keep her in a large enclosure with newspaper and shavings, and
just pick her up and cuddle her frequently, (she is an adorable and
loving little thing!) and let her snuggle with me in my chair when I am
on the computer.

Any hints on how I could possibly re-house train a dog in this
condition? My vet estimates she is about 10 years old.

I can't understand how or why some sorry SOB could or would abandon such
a helpless, tiny little creature! We found her wandering in circles in
the middle of the road about to become road kill.......

As little as she is, she is all dog..... <lol>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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And fire that goddamn vet!

David

David,

A few months ago, we rescued an abandoned little teacup poodle...
She weighs about 4 lbs. and is both blind and deaf. :-( I'd have surgery
on her eyes if I could afford it, but it's $1,200 per eye for cataract
removal.

Check around your regional ASPCA-type groups. Some of them help with such
medical/surgical problems.

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Due to her condition, she is no longer house trained but I have a good
environmentally controlled place to keep her where this does not matter.
I simply keep her in a large enclosure with newspaper and shavings, and
just pick her up and cuddle her frequently, (she is an adorable and
loving little thing!) and let her snuggle with me in my chair when I am
on the computer.

Any hints on how I could possibly re-house train a dog in this
condition? My vet estimates she is about 10 years old.

Hmmm. Blind and deaf shouldn't affect her ability to pee/[censored] in the same
place each time. At her age, if she's incontinent, it may be a medical
problem. If she's happy with the current set-up, I probably wouldn't stress
her out by trying much. A little cat litter box with easy access might work.

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I can't understand how or why some sorry SOB could or would abandon such
a helpless, tiny little creature! We found her wandering in circles in
the middle of the road about to become road kill.......

Because evil does exist. Even atheist Jews know that.

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As little as she is, she is all dog..... <lol>

Yeah. Somebody always forgets to tell little dogs that they're little. They
dream of being wolves, chasing caribou and howling at the moon. And they
wouldn't believe you if you told them otherwise.

Some on-line jpegs would be nice 🙂

David

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

Some on-line jpegs would be nice 🙂

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4 files have been uploaded to alt.binaries.pictures.animals for you.
Subject line starts with "For David Cohen".
There are 3 pictures of her,

Awww, cute!

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and also a picture of our most recent pound
adoptee. Maybe you can tell me what she is? The pound said she was a
border collie and my vet agrees, but her fur is awfully short. I'm
wondering if she is a lurcher as she is build like a grayhound?

Hard to tell from the photo. Looks like a Border Collie. Ocham's Razor at
work here: Border Collie or BC mix, real common; Lurcher, real uncommon.
Whatever...a good dog's a good dog.

David

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

Some on-line jpegs would be nice 🙂

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4 files have been uploaded to alt.binaries.pictures.animals for you.
Subject line starts with "For David Cohen".
There are 3 pictures of her,

Awww, cute!

Thanks! ;-)
She's a sweetie...
One of those face lickers.

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and also a picture of our most recent pound
adoptee. Maybe you can tell me what she is? The pound said she was a
border collie and my vet agrees, but her fur is awfully short. I'm
wondering if she is a lurcher as she is build like a grayhound?

Hard to tell from the photo. Looks like a Border Collie. Ocham's Razor at
work here: Border Collie or BC mix, real common; Lurcher, real uncommon.
Whatever...a good dog's a good dog.

Heh, yeah, I agree.
It's a sin how many border collies in this area are put down.
She'd been at the shelter for 3 months and was "due".

I hate going to the shelter, so many hard choices, but I was in the
market for a medium sized outdoor dog at the time so it worked out.
Since I work full time, I prefer to adopt adults. Puppies are cute,
but......

She is SO smart too!!!!!!

The only trouble I'm having with her, really, (other than the hyperness)
is she is cringy. I'm guessing she was abused. I've had her for 1 year
now and have never, EVER raised a hand to her for anything, and she
still tends to cringe at my feet and will do the submissive piddle thing
now and again. The submissive piddle is not as frequent as it was, but
it still happens now and again. <sigh> I guess just time is going to
heal that.

The last cringy dog I had took about 3 years to get over it.

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David

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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Jim Ranieri" <nah,> wrote

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"John" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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The man came over and tried to get the pup out of Tyson's mouth. He put
his hand in his mouth, instead of pinching his jowls, and pried the pup

out

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while taking a couple bites to his hand. She said there was blood
everywhere. The cops showed up and took statements. I'm not worried
about getting sued, because it's not all Tyson's fault. If the man

would've

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had a hold of the leash, like he should've, this wouldn't have happened.

I can't help you on the behavioral end, but you might want to think about
changing Tyson's name prior to his court appearance.

LOL!

Selene
not much help, but getting a good laugh

"Selene" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"Jim Ranieri" <nah,> wrote

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"John" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The man came over and tried to get the pup out of Tyson's mouth. He put
his hand in his mouth, instead of pinching his jowls, and pried the pup

out

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while taking a couple bites to his hand. She said there was blood
everywhere. The cops showed up and took statements. I'm not worried
about getting sued, because it's not all Tyson's fault. If the man

would've

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had a hold of the leash, like he should've, this wouldn't have
happened.

I can't help you on the behavioral end, but you might want to think about
changing Tyson's name prior to his court appearance.

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LOL!

Selene
not much help, but getting a good laugh

So...did you get your saggy breasted Mexican dog? Skipper doing ok with her?

David

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"Selene" <[email hidden]> wrote
"Jim Ranieri" <nah,> wrote

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"John" <[email hidden]> wrote
> The man came over and tried to get the pup out of Tyson's mouth.
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I can't help you on the behavioral end, but you might want to think

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changing Tyson's name prior to his court appearance.

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LOL!

Selene
not much help, but getting a good laugh

So...did you get your saggy breasted Mexican dog? Skipper doing ok with

her?

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Haven't heard a word so maybe they found a local home. And I'm having
second thoughts about introducing a dog we haven't met that can't go back.
Skip was not the first dog I tried to adopt when I was getting dog #2.
Several just didn't get along with my old dog, and I had to tell the owners
or shelter no. I'd be more willing to take on a strange dog if it were the
only dog, but as a new member of the pack, I want to ensure some continuing
harmony. There were enough 'disagreements' as it was with the old dog and
Skipper (no blood, but lots of barking and yelling) before things settled
down to peaceful coexistance. Of course, the old dog was kind of a
butt-head. :-)

I've thought about a kitten instead, but I have this cranky, psycho 18-year
old cat, too, and I'm not sure what she'd do with some new little Mr.
RowdyPants running around.

I need a maternity leave for my new pet introduction period! Or should that
be "peternity" leave?

Selene
needs more pets

Selene said:

I need a maternity leave for my new pet introduction period! Or should that
be "peternity" leave?

Bad pun! Bad, bad pun!

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