OT: Minnie Riperton

Jim said:

She was a true great vocalist...I just bought her greatest hits collection
and love it.

Jim

I've heard a lot of singers who were supposed to have freaky-hyooge
vocal ranges. She is one of two who actually recorded the range she was
supposed to have.

rm

Scorn B Woe said:

Quoted message said:

Give Minnie a listen...good stuff...she died from breast cancer at a

young
age but put out some great music.>

Thank god for early deaths. She sang like a cat hit by a car.

Erm. NO. Wrong. She actually had a solid vocal technique.

This is a funny thing: most jazz/pop instrumentalists have a pretty good
notion of what they're doing, technically. They can play most of the
classical repertoire if they want to. Most of them would rather eat
ground glass, but they have the chops.

Singers, on the other hand, generally have no clue at all what they're
doing; they have no technical facility at all, they just dump emotion on
the audience. MR, OTOH was actually trained to sing. She had control
over her voice, and could do things with it. The ethereal bits on
"Lovin' You" would normally be a guitar or synth part; she was one of
the very few pop singers who could do that.

A while ago, I figured out that "What I don't like" and "What really
sucks" are not identical sets. Think about this.

rm

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Scorn B Woe said:

Quoted message said:

Give Minnie a listen...good stuff...she died from breast cancer at a

young
age but put out some great music.>

Thank god for early deaths. She sang like a cat hit by a car.

Erm. NO. Wrong. She actually had a solid vocal technique.

This is a funny thing: most jazz/pop instrumentalists have a pretty good
notion of what they're doing, technically. They can play most of the
classical repertoire if they want to. Most of them would rather eat ground
glass, but they have the chops.

Singers, on the other hand, generally have no clue at all what they're
doing; they have no technical facility at all, they just dump emotion on
the audience. MR, OTOH was actually trained to sing. She had control over
her voice, and could do things with it. The ethereal bits on "Lovin' You"
would normally be a guitar or synth part; she was one of the very few pop
singers who could do that.

A while ago, I figured out that "What I don't like" and "What really
sucks" are not identical sets. Think about this.

rm

Or more precisely, the degree of suckitude does not necessarily indicate a
lack of talent on the performer's part. Because let's face it, "Lovin' You"
did suck, no matter how vocally talented MR was.

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Scorn B Woe said:

>Give Minnie a listen...good stuff...she died from breast cancer at a

young
age but put out some great music.>

Thank god for early deaths. She sang like a cat hit by a car.

Erm. NO. Wrong. She actually had a solid vocal technique.

This is a funny thing: most jazz/pop instrumentalists have a pretty good
notion of what they're doing, technically. They can play most of the
classical repertoire if they want to. Most of them would rather eat
ground glass, but they have the chops.

Singers, on the other hand, generally have no clue at all what they're
doing; they have no technical facility at all, they just dump emotion on
the audience. MR, OTOH was actually trained to sing. She had control over
her voice, and could do things with it. The ethereal bits on "Lovin' You"
would normally be a guitar or synth part; she was one of the very few pop
singers who could do that.

A while ago, I figured out that "What I don't like" and "What really
sucks" are not identical sets. Think about this.

rm

Or more precisely, the degree of suckitude does not necessarily indicate a
lack of talent on the performer's part. Because let's face it, "Lovin'
You" did suck, no matter how vocally talented MR was.

Indeed..but some of her other stuff was great.

Jim

Now..lets go from Minnie to ....."Master of Puppets"

Hell yessiree......Controlling faster!...Obey your Master!
Ah ya!

Jim

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Now..lets go from Minnie to ....."Master of Puppets"

Hell yessiree......Controlling faster!...Obey your Master!
Ah ya!

Jim

Good stuff.

ATP* said:

Or more precisely, the degree of suckitude does not necessarily indicate a
lack of talent on the performer's part. Because let's face it, "Lovin' You"
did suck, no matter how vocally talented MR was.

Interesting point. The sf writer Spider Robinson once posed the problem
for amateur guitar heroes: listen to Amos Garrett's break on "Midnight
at the Oasis," and try to figure out how on earth he did that.
(Solutions involving selling of souls are cheating.)

The high vocal part on "Lovin' You" always astounds me for the purity of
the tone and the ease with which she does it.

I guess I have the same reaction as Alice Cooper did when his little
girl dragged him to see Celine Dion in Vegas. The interviewer I saw
never even asked if AC like the songs, but Cooper made one thing very
clear: if you don't like Celine Dion's voice (as opposed to her
material, style, stage mannerisms, choice of husbands, etc.) then you
don't know what a good voice is. He concluded by saying he'd love to
write some songs for Celine. They wouldn't resemble anything she's doing
now, but boy, she would sound good singing them.

I would love to have heard MR with some decent material.

rm

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BobMac said:

ATP* said:

Or more precisely, the degree of suckitude does not necessarily
indicate a lack of talent on the performer's part. Because let's face
it, "Lovin' You" did suck, no matter how vocally talented MR was.

Interesting point. The sf writer Spider Robinson once posed the problem
for amateur guitar heroes: listen to Amos Garrett's break on "Midnight
at the Oasis," and try to figure out how on earth he did that.
(Solutions involving selling of souls are cheating.)

The high vocal part on "Lovin' You" always astounds me for the purity of
the tone and the ease with which she does it.

I guess I have the same reaction as Alice Cooper did when his little
girl dragged him to see Celine Dion in Vegas. The interviewer I saw
never even asked if AC like the songs, but Cooper made one thing very
clear: if you don't like Celine Dion's voice (as opposed to her
material, style, stage mannerisms, choice of husbands, etc.) then you
don't know what a good voice is. He concluded by saying he'd love to
write some songs for Celine. They wouldn't resemble anything she's doing
now, but boy, she would sound good singing them.

I would love to have heard MR with some decent material.

rm

Phoebe Snow was another brilliant vocalist from the same period with far
better material. Her career derailed from personal problems. Later she
did some commercial work but never recaptured her momentum.

Also, I am sure you are aware that Maya Rudolf from SNL is Minnie's
daughter.