OT: Hey Ewoud

Kurgan Gringioni said:

What is the Netherlands plan for the 20-30ft. rise in sea level that
would come to pass if the glaciers melt entirely?

<blub>
(or what's the English onomatopoeia for a drowning sound?)

There are plans to account for a 0.5 - 1 m rise within the next
century, I believe. The rise could very well be double that and plans
would have to be adjusted but only quantitavely not structurally, I
think. I also think that in that timespan the rivers (Rhine, Meuse)
are more of a threat than the sea.

Sorry, don't know much more about it. Après moi le déluge...!

--
E. Dronkert

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Quoted message said:

What is the Netherlands plan for the 20-30ft. rise in sea level that
would come to pass if the glaciers melt entirely?

Ewoud Dronkert said:

<blub>
(or what's the English onomatopoeia for a drowning sound?)
Sorry, don't know much more about it. Après moi le déluge...!

At least you can row.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

So now that the melting of Greenland's glaciers is accelerating beyond
all predictions and models . . .

What is the Netherlands plan for the 20-30ft. rise in sea level that
would come to pass if the glaciers melt entirely?

Floating houses, I believe is a key part of the plan.

On Sep 27, 1:28 am, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

What is the Netherlands plan for the 20-30ft. rise in sea level that
would come to pass if the glaciers melt entirely?

<blub>
(or what's the English onomatopoeia for a drowning sound?)

There are plans to account for a 0.5 - 1 m rise within the next
century, I believe. The rise could very well be double that

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Dumbass -

They don't have a good way of predicting it. The glaciers are moving
into the ocean way, way faster than the models predict. There's
speculation that it could be caused by meltwater reducing friction
between the glacier and land, but no one really knows.

Ever flown over Greenland? Those glaciers are incredibly massive. They
rise out of the water like the Grand Canyon. It's got a similar effect
- so big it doesn't look quite real.

If I ever buy real estate again in San Diego, I'm gonna make sure it's
at least 50 ft. above sea level. The melt may not happen in our
lifetimes, but who knows? Better to be safe than sorry. Those people
in Florida, on the other hand, they'll be screwed if it happens. Can't
dike up that entire state. At least you Dutch won't be alone.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

What is the Netherlands plan for the 20-30ft. rise in sea level that
would come to pass if the glaciers melt entirely?

<blub>
(or what's the English onomatopoeia for a drowning sound?)

There are plans to account for a 0.5 - 1 m rise within the next
century, I believe. The rise could very well be double that and plans
would have to be adjusted but only quantitavely not structurally, I
think. I also think that in that timespan the rivers (Rhine, Meuse)
are more of a threat than the sea.

Hmm, so how's that compare with the Greenland glaciers have been melted
mostly off in the time of Eric the Red? Besides that stupid jackass Henry
not knowing that sea level has risen about an inch in the last century I
don't suppose he's going to ever get a clue.

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Hmm, so how's that compare with the Greenland glaciers have been melted
mostly off in the time of Eric the Red? Besides that stupid jackass Henry
not knowing that sea level has risen about an inch in the last century I
don't suppose he's going to ever get a clue.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/899682.html

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But something has changed in recent years. The balance has been
broken. The glaciers' melting pace became higher than the rate of
snowfall in the island's center. In each of the past few years,
Greenland lost an amount of water equal to that contained in the
entire Alpine range. And the snow falling in its center cannot make up
for that. In addition, Steffen and his colleagues have taken a series
of unusual measurements, which point to climate change. Air
temperature in the Greenland winter has gone up four degrees, the
sharpest increase anywhere in the world; the rate of glacier movement
to the sea has doubled; and the ice sheet itself has begun oozing ever-
faster westward toward the sea, sliding on melted water that acts as
lubricant.

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Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Hmm, so how's that compare with the Greenland glaciers have been melted
mostly off in the time of Eric the Red? Besides that stupid jackass Henry
not knowing that sea level has risen about an inch in the last century I
don't suppose he's going to ever get a clue.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/899682.html

But something has changed in recent years. The balance has been
broken. The glaciers' melting pace became higher than the rate of
snowfall in the island's center. In each of the past few years,
Greenland lost an amount of water equal to that contained in the
entire Alpine range. And the snow falling in its center cannot make up
for that. In addition, Steffen and his colleagues have taken a series
of unusual measurements, which point to climate change. Air
temperature in the Greenland winter has gone up four degrees, the
sharpest increase anywhere in the world; the rate of glacier movement
to the sea has doubled; and the ice sheet itself has begun oozing ever-
faster westward toward the sea, sliding on melted water that acts as
lubricant.

There can only be one answer Henry - you'll just have to commit suicide.

http://www.scenta.co.uk/Nature/1700835/dna-discovery-reveals-greenlands-warm-past.htm

"Scientists have uncovered evidence that within the past million years
southern Greenland was warmer than previously thought, and even covered in
lush forests, a discovery suggesting its ice sheet could be more stable than
previously thought against climate change temperature rises."

Oh, by the way:

http://meteo.lcd.lu/globalwarming/Chylek/greenland_warming.html

"The Greenland warming of the 1995-2005 period is similar to the warming of
1920-1930, although the rate of temperature increase was by about 50% higher
during the 1920-1930 warming period."

Henry, you demonstrate the sort of ignorance I've come to expect from people
who live off of the money of their parents.

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

On Sep 27, 9:06 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hmm, so how's that compare with the Greenland glaciers have been melted
mostly off in the time of Eric the Red? Besides that stupid jackass Henry
not knowing that sea level has risen about an inch in the last century I
don't suppose he's going to ever get a clue.

Quoted message said:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/899682.html

Quoted message said:

But something has changed in recent years. The balance has been
broken. The glaciers' melting pace became higher than the rate of
snowfall in the island's center. In each of the past few years,
Greenland lost an amount of water equal to that contained in the
entire Alpine range. And the snow falling in its center cannot make up
for that. In addition, Steffen and his colleagues have taken a series
of unusual measurements, which point to climate change. Air
temperature in the Greenland winter has gone up four degrees, the
sharpest increase anywhere in the world; the rate of glacier movement
to the sea has doubled; and the ice sheet itself has begun oozing ever-
faster westward toward the sea, sliding on melted water that acts as
lubricant.

There can only be one answer Henry - you'll just have to commit suicide.

Dumbass -

So your position is that it's not melting?

Your knee jerks so hard. All I did was ask Ewoud whether they had a
contingency plan.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

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Kurgan Gringioni said:

So now that the melting of Greenland's glaciers is accelerating beyond
all predictions and models . . .

Soon the Danes will re-establish their homesteads in Greenland.

Quoted message said:

What is the Netherlands plan for the 20-30ft. rise in sea level that
would come to pass if the glaciers melt entirely?

Here in the United States we don't have any plans (naturally). I
figure that the Netherlands has some sort of contingency. Am I wrong?

Another 20 ft. of water - that's a [censored] of force to try to hold
back.

--
Michael Press

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

http://www.scenta.co.uk/Nature/1700835/dna-discovery-reveals-greenlan...

"Scientists have uncovered evidence that within the past million years
southern Greenland was warmer than previously thought, and even covered in
lush forests, a discovery suggesting its ice sheet could be more stable than
previously thought against climate change temperature rises."

Let's see: suggesting...could be...previously thought. Good enough
for me!

I find it surprising that the open Northwest Passage wasn't discovered
until just recently. Those early explorers, all four hundred years of
them, must have really sucked at navigation. If those damn Vikings
hadn't been drinking so much and hunting Red Sonja poontang, they
would have found it easily, eh? Then again, maybe they had their
reasons... http://images.43things.com/entry/236618xl.jpg

R

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RicodJour said:

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

http://www.scenta.co.uk/Nature/1700835/dna-discovery-reveals-greenlan...

"Scientists have uncovered evidence that within the past million years
southern Greenland was warmer than previously thought, and even covered in
lush forests, a discovery suggesting its ice sheet could be more stable than
previously thought against climate change temperature rises."

Let's see: suggesting...could be...previously thought. Good enough
for me!

I find it surprising that the open Northwest Passage wasn't discovered
until just recently. Those early explorers, all four hundred years of
them, must have really sucked at navigation. If those damn Vikings
hadn't been drinking so much and hunting Red Sonja poontang, they
would have found it easily, eh? Then again, maybe they had their
reasons... http://images.43things.com/entry/236618xl.jpg

Plastic cups just doesn't seem very Viking-like...

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck said:

RicodJour said:

http://images.43things.com/entry/236618xl.jpg

Plastic cups

I don't care.

What an odd site, btw. Disappointingly, after searching for "viking"
and "helmet", I couldn't find any more pictures. I do like him/her,
however: http://www.43things.com/person/shema

So Ryan; 43, what does that say to you?

--
E. Dronkert

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

Howard Kveck said:

RicodJour said:

http://images.43things.com/entry/236618xl.jpg

Plastic cups

I don't care.

What an odd site, btw. Disappointingly, after searching for "viking"
and "helmet", I couldn't find any more pictures. I do like him/her,
however: http://www.43things.com/person/shema

So Ryan; 43, what does that say to you?

Horribly, I know exactly what 43 means: 31 days plus 12 months, the
number of folders you need to implement a Getting Things Done filing
system.

Other than that...the place I took in the race two weeks ago? This race,
with no hills to speak of, suited me better.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

So Ryan; 43, what does that say to you?

A NASCAR fan would say it meant Richard Petty.

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Ryan Cousineau schreef:

Quoted message said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

So Ryan; 43, what does that say to you?

Horribly, I know exactly what 43 means: 31 days plus 12 months, the
number of folders you need to implement a Getting Things Done filing
system.

No, no. Licor Cuarenta y Tres.

--
E. Dronkert

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Howard Kveck said:

RicodJour said:

http://images.43things.com/entry/236618xl.jpg

Plastic cups

I don't care.

What an odd site, btw. Disappointingly, after searching for "viking"
and "helmet", I couldn't find any more pictures. I do like him/her,
however: http://www.43things.com/person/shema

So Ryan; 43, what does that say to you?

It is NOT the answer to life the universe and everything.

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Quoted message said:

So Ryan; 43, what does that say to you?

Hobbes said:

It is NOT the answer to life the universe and everything.

Ryan has concluded that beer is the answer to life,
the universe and everything.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Ryan Cousineau schreef:

Quoted message said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

So Ryan; 43, what does that say to you?

Horribly, I know exactly what 43 means: 31 days plus 12 months, the
number of folders you need to implement a Getting Things Done filing
system.

No, no. Licor Cuarenta y Tres.

I have much to learn.

43 > 420,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos