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  1. Alright, don't get your panties in bunch, I know most of you are GR's or=
    =

    on the fence, so I thought I throw this out here.

    Looking at a few possibilities, but because it's been 2 decades since my=
    =

    hairless, Hot pants wearing daze, I'm a bit out of touch.

    Anyone have any info on the following:

    <http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.asp?category_short_name=3Droad&myArr=
    ay=3D87,88,89,90,91,92,93,102,94,95,96,103,97,104,106,99,98,100,105,101,=
    107,108,109,112,110,111,113,114&myArrayID=3D19&yr=3D2004#>

    http://www.bianchiusa.com/pista.html

    http://www.khsbicycles.com/04flite100.html

    http://www.feltracing.com/2004_bikes/tk2.html

    http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4PRT.html

    I might have to disqualify some of those listed if I can't get a frame =

    under 50cm (need a 48 or max 49). Now I remember having this same proble=
    m =

    when I was look for a road bike, back in the day.

    Haven't looked at pricing yet except for that KHS that I was checking ou=
    t =

    yesterday at my local DH/FR beach cruiser shop. Would like to stay well =
    =

    under $8 bills only because I can't see paying more for such a simple, y=
    et =

    efficient machine, but ......??

    -- =

    Slacker - on the hunt

  2. Slacker said:

    Alright, don't get your panties in bunch, I know most of you are GR's
    or
    on the fence, so I thought I throw this out here.

    Looking at a few possibilities, but because it's been 2 decades since
    my
    hairless, Hot pants wearing daze, I'm a bit out of touch.

    Anyone have any info on the following:


    <http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.asp?category_short_name=road&myArray=87,
    88,89,90,91,92,93,102,94,95,96,103,97,104,106,99,98,100,105,101,107,108,109,
    112,110,111,113,114&myArrayID=19&yr=2004#>

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.bianchiusa.com/pista.html

    http://www.khsbicycles.com/04flite100.html

    http://www.feltracing.com/2004_bikes/tk2.html

    http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4PRT.html

    I might have to disqualify some of those listed if I can't get a frame
    under 50cm (need a 48 or max 49). Now I remember having this same
    problem
    when I was look for a road bike, back in the day.

    Haven't looked at pricing yet except for that KHS that I was checking
    out
    yesterday at my local DH/FR beach cruiser shop. Would like to stay
    well
    under $8 bills only because I can't see paying more for such a
    simple, yet
    efficient machine, but ......??

    Who is this and what have you done with Slacker?

  3. MattB said:
    Slacker said:

    Alright, don't get your panties in bunch, I know most of you are GR's
    or
    on the fence, so I thought I throw this out here.

    Looking at a few possibilities, but because it's been 2 decades since
    my
    hairless, Hot pants wearing daze, I'm a bit out of touch.

    Anyone have any info on the following:



    <http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.asp?category_short_name=road&myArray=87,

    Quoted message said:


    88,89,90,91,92,93,102,94,95,96,103,97,104,106,99,98,100,105,101,107,108,109,

    Quoted message said:

    112,110,111,113,114&myArrayID=19&yr=2004#>

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.bianchiusa.com/pista.html

    http://www.khsbicycles.com/04flite100.html

    http://www.feltracing.com/2004_bikes/tk2.html

    http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4PRT.html

    I might have to disqualify some of those listed if I can't get a
    frame under 50cm (need a 48 or max 49). Now I remember having this
    same problem
    when I was look for a road bike, back in the day.

    Haven't looked at pricing yet except for that KHS that I was checking
    out
    yesterday at my local DH/FR beach cruiser shop. Would like to stay
    well
    under $8 bills only because I can't see paying more for such a
    simple, yet
    efficient machine, but ......??

    Who is this and what have you done with Slacker?

    I was going to reply similarly, but noticed they were SS's.

    --
    - Zilla
    Cary, NC
    (Remove XSPAM)

  4. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:opscjqacnam83lxu@slacker...
    <stuff about fixed gear snipped>
    --
    Slacker - on the hunt

    Slacker,

    How much is the Felt? It's nice that the KHS and Felt come with flip-flop
    rear hubs. I myself am leaning towards the Bianchi because of the chrome
    finish, matches my road bike. I've heard the Bianchi Pista sizes run big,
    so the 49 might fit you.

    Anyways, building your own from used parts is cool too. Here's a site to
    get your fixie fever going:

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/

    Sorry this is non mountain bike related! To correct this, I'll add that I
    finally put a rigid fork on my singlespeed. Can't wait to get a ride in.

    Alvin Liau

  5. Slacker said:

    Alright, don't get your panties in bunch, I know most of you are GR's
    or on the fence, so I thought I throw this out here.

    Looking at a few possibilities, but because it's been 2 decades since
    my hairless, Hot pants wearing daze, I'm a bit out of touch.

    Anyone have any info on the following:

    <http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.asp?category_short_name=road&myArray=87,88,89,90,91,92,93,102,94,95,96,103,97,104,106,99,98,100,105,101,107,108,109,112,110,111,113,114&myArrayID=19&yr=2004#>

    http://www.bianchiusa.com/pista.html

    http://www.khsbicycles.com/04flite100.html

    http://www.feltracing.com/2004_bikes/tk2.html

    http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4PRT.html

    Just to throw another in the mix, if you really want to stay cheap then
    check out the specialized langster. I just picked one up a few weeks
    ago for $350 + $25 for the cog (it comes as a coastable SS on a flip
    flop hub). Everything on it is cheap but quite bearable, it's a good
    way to get a road bike for not a lot of dough. I'm lovin mine and my
    knees are hating me🙂

    http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=6852&JServSessionIdroot=hxg38t4utt.j27002

  6. On 2004-08-11, Slacker penned:

    <stuff about fixies>

    I've also been pondering a fixed-gear bike ... but track bikes don't
    have brakes! I like brakes. I want at least one on there somewhere.

    Is there a way to attach brakes to a straight track bike, like the
    cannondale or the Bianchi?

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  7. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:opscjqacnam83lxu@slacker...
    Alright, don't get your panties in bunch, I know most of you are GR's or
    on the fence, so I thought I throw this out here.

    Looking at a few possibilities, but because it's been 2 decades since my
    hairless, Hot pants wearing daze, I'm a bit out of touch.

    I ride a Fuji Track SE and Jim rides a Bianchi Pista (both models from last
    year). I managed to get an incredible deal ($300) on my bike from a local
    bike shop that specializes in fixed gear/track bikes plus it was a tiny size
    that fit me perfectly (43cm) and they just wanted to get rid of it because
    they weren't having luck selling it. Jim bought his bike from Harris Cyclery
    (Sheldon Brown's shop), he was the only place that had the Pista in his
    size, everybody else had sold out their stock of Pista's.

    Our track bikes are a blast to ride. The most fun you can have on a bike and
    not have to worry about gears, derailleurs or brakes. You just go out there
    and let it rip. We both installed only front brakes because we like to take
    the bikes out on the road. The bikes have made a very noticable improvement
    in our leg strength and perfected our spins.

    I recommend that everybody should give it a try. Just remember, no coasting
    allowed!

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

  8. On 2004-08-11, Carla A-G penned:

    Quoted message said:


    I recommend that everybody should give it a try. Just remember, no
    coasting allowed!

    Isn't that, "No coasting *possible*!" ?

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  9. Slacker <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<opscjqacnam83lxu@slacker>...

    Quoted message said:

    Alright, don't get your panties in bunch, I know most of you are GR's or

    on the fence, so I thought I throw this out here.

    Looking at a few possibilities, but because it's been 2 decades since my

    hairless, Hot pants wearing daze, I'm a bit out of touch.

    Anyone have any info on the following:

    <http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.asp?category short name=road&myArr
    ay=87,88,89,90,91,92,93,102,94,95,96,103,97,104,106,99,98,100,105,101,
    107,108,109,112,110,111,113,114&myArrayID=19&yr=2004#>

    http://www.bianchiusa.com/pista.html

    http://www.khsbicycles.com/04flite100.html

    http://www.feltracing.com/2004 bikes/tk2.html

    http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4PRT.html

    I might have to disqualify some of those listed if I can't get a frame

    under 50cm (need a 48 or max 49). Now I remember having this same proble
    m

    when I was look for a road bike, back in the day.

    Haven't looked at pricing yet except for that KHS that I was checking ou
    t

    yesterday at my local DH/FR beach cruiser shop. Would like to stay well

    under $8 bills only because I can't see paying more for such a simple, y
    et

    efficient machine, but ......??

    Muhahahaha!!!

    Background info: I'm 210lbs and 6'2, riding an old Paramount track
    bike in NYC as a commuting bike and fast park riding, with an old
    Nishiki fixie (hot pink!) I've taken longer rides with. I have yet to
    ride a velodrome. My bikes range in size from 58cm to 62cm. I've taken
    almost all of these bikes for a test ride, but none for much more than
    a trip or three around the block. I shaved my legs once, two years
    ago, and I'm wearing frilly women's underwear.

    Fuji: It's cheapest and steel. Not a bad bike. No frills and cheap
    thrills.

    Bianchi: Good bang for the buck, lots of sizes, probably the best hubs
    and rims in the bunch, it attracts squirrels. Mechanics tell me that
    the bb falls apart quickly. A very popular choice around these parts
    with a lot going for it all around.

    KHS: The nicest frame/fork in the bunch, cleanly welded, crowned fork,
    tight track geometry, stiff and pretty zippy. No-name wheels, which
    may suggest that you'll be repacking the bearings every few months but
    not necessarily. The Sugino 75's are nice high-end track cranks. I
    liked this bike quite a bit. I think the handlebars were steel, which
    is a good thing. Retro adjustable stem, another good thing. Only 4
    sizes, between 50 and 60, so it may not fit you. (*The recommendation
    I got while shopping was to buy a bike a bit smaller than my road
    bike.)

    Felt: This is the only bike on this list I have not ridden. It's
    aluminum and, from my best newbie's 'pick it up in the bike shop'
    ooh-ahh test, danged light. The model I saw went for a grand with nice
    parts. The wishbone chainstay LOOKED flimsy for something I'm
    presumably going to put 110% full grunt into (and if you're riding in
    the Palisades with Corvus on a 48x16, you certainly will!) but I'm
    steel-centric and err towards strength. But if you're light and quick
    and want to win track races, the Felt might be the ticket. (I also
    think that if you've got a velodrome in the nabe, light weight isn't
    going to help you as much as it would on a road or mtn bike. No
    climbing, and the acceleration burst isn't going to be dramatically
    better. But what do I know?)

    Cannondale: Around $1200 with top shelf parts. The frame is kind of
    strange, though. Track stuff tends to have tight tolerances, tighter
    than typical road bikes. The C'dale's angles are unusually slack. Not
    necessarily a bad thing, just different. You'll be buying into the
    whole integrated headset thing, which may be wonderful and ubiquitous
    now but makes me nervous. So does the idea of locking it up outside.
    One of the nice things about track bikes is there's really little to
    steal. This bike has heavy bling. In a city where I've had the brake
    shoes stolen from one bike, that's significant.

    If you want to go cheap, I'd recommend picking up an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts. They're a dime a dozen. You can remove the
    old freewheel cog and put a fixed cog on with some sort of washer and
    nut along with it to help hold it in place. Keep the brakes on -- you
    don't have to be a hero, brakes will let you go faster, and the ladies
    aren't going to love you more with your face smashed in. If you want
    to get a decent track wheel, I was able to find a Surly hub / Mavic
    MA3 / Wheelsmith spoked wheel online for a little over $100 that has
    served me with nary a complaint for a year.

    Have fun. Your teal jersey, Nair, and Astroglide are in the mail,
    Hotpants!

    /s

  10. <Monique Y. Mudama

    Isn't that, "No coasting *possible*!" ?

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain>

    The only way to coast is to remove your feet from the pedals...

    All I can say about getting a fixie is just do it...
    I did a conversion for the first few years and it was great, but I always sweated throwing a chain or having the cog come loose.
    Since I have a true fix/track I don't feel worried at all... It's all gravy.

    Jimbo(san)

  11. "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2004-08-11, Slacker penned:

    <stuff about fixies>

    I've also been pondering a fixed-gear bike ... but track bikes don't
    have brakes! I like brakes. I want at least one on there somewhere.

    Is there a way to attach brakes to a straight track bike, like the
    cannondale or the Bianchi?

    Contact the guy who has this website. He's my cousin and can answer any
    fixed gear question you have. He really knows his stuff and used to be
    a Cannondale and Bianchi dealer. He has a few fixed gear bikes that have
    brakes on them. He has one bike with the drivetrain on the left side.

    <http://users.penn.com/~retro/fixed.htm>

  12. Jimbo (san) said:

    <Monique Y. Mudama

    Isn't that, "No coasting *possible*!" ?

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain>

    The only way to coast is to remove your feet from the pedals...

    All I can say about getting a fixie is just do it...
    I did a conversion for the first few years and it was great, but I
    always sweated throwing a chain or having the cog come loose.
    Since I have a true fix/track I don't feel worried at all... It's all
    gravy.

    Jimbo(san)

    --
    Jimbo(san)

    My first bike was a fixie, when I was 6 yrs. old! 🙂

    --
    - Zilla
    Cary, NC
    (Remove XSPAM)

  13. How much is the Felt? It's nice that the KHS and Felt
    come with flip-flop
    rear hubs. I myself am leaning towards the Bianchi
    because of the chrome
    finish, matches my road bike. I've heard the Bianchi
    Pista sizes run big,
    so the 49 might fit you.

    Anyways, building your own from used parts is cool too.
    Here's a site to
    get your fixie fever going:

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/

    Sorry this is non mountain bike related! To correct this,
    I'll add that I
    finally put a rigid fork on my singlespeed. Can't wait to
    get a ride in.

    Alvin Liau

    The Felt runs about $1000. I've never heard of that company till 2 days
    ago, but that bike does look nice, perhaps too nice.

    Thanks for the link.
    --
    Slacker
    --
    Slacker

  14. Quoted message said:

    Muhahahaha!!!

    Background info: I'm 210lbs and 6'2, riding an old Paramount track
    bike in NYC as a commuting bike and fast park riding, with an old
    Nishiki fixie (hot pink!) I've taken longer rides with. I have yet to
    ride a velodrome. My bikes range in size from 58cm to 62cm. I've taken
    almost all of these bikes for a test ride, but none for much more than
    a trip or three around the block. I shaved my legs once, two years
    ago, and I'm wearing frilly women's underwear.

    Fuji: It's cheapest and steel. Not a bad bike. No frills and cheap
    thrills.

    Bianchi: Good bang for the buck, lots of sizes, probably the best hubs
    and rims in the bunch, it attracts squirrels. Mechanics tell me that
    the bb falls apart quickly. A very popular choice around these parts
    with a lot going for it all around.

    KHS: The nicest frame/fork in the bunch, cleanly welded, crowned fork,
    tight track geometry, stiff and pretty zippy. No-name wheels, which
    may suggest that you'll be repacking the bearings every few months but
    not necessarily. The Sugino 75's are nice high-end track cranks. I
    liked this bike quite a bit. I think the handlebars were steel, which
    is a good thing. Retro adjustable stem, another good thing. Only 4
    sizes, between 50 and 60, so it may not fit you. (*The recommendation
    I got while shopping was to buy a bike a bit smaller than my road
    bike.)

    Felt: This is the only bike on this list I have not ridden. It's
    aluminum and, from my best newbie's 'pick it up in the bike shop'
    ooh-ahh test, danged light. The model I saw went for a grand with nice
    parts. The wishbone chainstay LOOKED flimsy for something I'm
    presumably going to put 110% full grunt into (and if you're riding in
    the Palisades with Corvus on a 48x16, you certainly will!) but I'm
    steel-centric and err towards strength. But if you're light and quick
    and want to win track races, the Felt might be the ticket. (I also
    think that if you've got a velodrome in the nabe, light weight isn't
    going to help you as much as it would on a road or mtn bike. No
    climbing, and the acceleration burst isn't going to be dramatically
    better. But what do I know?)

    Cannondale: Around $1200 with top shelf parts. The frame is kind of
    strange, though. Track stuff tends to have tight tolerances, tighter
    than typical road bikes. The C'dale's angles are unusually slack. Not
    necessarily a bad thing, just different. You'll be buying into the
    whole integrated headset thing, which may be wonderful and ubiquitous
    now but makes me nervous. So does the idea of locking it up outside.
    One of the nice things about track bikes is there's really little to
    steal. This bike has heavy bling. In a city where I've had the brake
    shoes stolen from one bike, that's significant.

    If you want to go cheap, I'd recommend picking up an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts. They're a dime a dozen. You can remove the
    old freewheel cog and put a fixed cog on with some sort of washer and
    nut along with it to help hold it in place. Keep the brakes on -- you
    don't have to be a hero, brakes will let you go faster, and the ladies
    aren't going to love you more with your face smashed in. If you want
    to get a decent track wheel, I was able to find a Surly hub / Mavic
    MA3 / Wheelsmith spoked wheel online for a little over $100 that has
    served me with nary a complaint for a year.

    Have fun. Your teal jersey, Nair, and Astroglide are in the mail,
    Hotpants!

    /s

    Awesome! Thanks for the great info.

    This is going to be strictly a velodrome bike because just down the block
    from my work http://www.velodromes.com/Los_Angeles.html

    No brakes allowed :-)
    --
    Slacker

  15. Monique Y. Mudama said:

    Is there a way to attach brakes to a straight track bike, like the
    cannondale or the Bianchi?

    All you really need is a front brake (oh, and some skill in using your
    back "brake" which is really your legs). That means at worst you just
    have to find a fork that is drilled for a front brake caliper. Since
    the cable doesn't go near the frame, that's all that's required.

    OK, that and a front brake, a lever and some cable...

    www.habcycles.com/fixie.jpg

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

  16. MattB said:
    Slacker said:

    Alright, don't get your panties in bunch, I know most of you are GR's
    or
    on the fence, so I thought I throw this out here.

    Looking at a few possibilities, but because it's been 2 decades since
    my
    hairless, Hot pants wearing daze, I'm a bit out of touch.

    Anyone have any info on the following:


    <http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.asp?category_short_name=road&myArray=87,
    88,89,90,91,92,93,102,94,95,96,103,97,104,106,99,98,100,105,101,107,108,109,
    112,110,111,113,114&myArrayID=19&yr=2004#>

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.bianchiusa.com/pista.html

    http://www.khsbicycles.com/04flite100.html

    http://www.feltracing.com/2004_bikes/tk2.html

    http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/04/cusa/model-4PRT.html

    I might have to disqualify some of those listed if I can't get a frame
    under 50cm (need a 48 or max 49). Now I remember having this same
    problem
    when I was look for a road bike, back in the day.

    Haven't looked at pricing yet except for that KHS that I was checking
    out
    yesterday at my local DH/FR beach cruiser shop. Would like to stay
    well
    under $8 bills only because I can't see paying more for such a
    simple, yet
    efficient machine, but ......??

    Who is this and what have you done with Slacker?


    I *is* Slacker, [censored]!

    --
    Slacker ;-)

  17. Slacker <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<opsclhpexam83lxu@slacker>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Muhahahaha!!!

    Have fun. Your teal jersey, Nair, and Astroglide are in the mail,
    Hotpants!

    /s

    Awesome! Thanks for the great info.

    This is going to be strictly a velodrome bike because just down the bloc
    k

    from my work http://www.velodromes.com/Los Angeles.html

    No brakes allowed :-)

    Wow! Not bad!
    I've got Kissena (http://www.bikecult.com/works/kissenatrack.html)
    maybe 7 miles from me. I've been meaning to check it out for... oh...
    10 years?
    There's a good deal of stuff on ebay too. You can also build up your
    own bike for not much more than buying prebuilt. I picked up my
    Paramount frame, fork, headset, bb, seat and post for $300. The Surly
    rear wheel was $100. Cog and lockring will be around another $30. The
    front wheel came off the old Nishiki, and the steel bars and SR stem
    came from an old Schwinn Varsity. The 170mm cranks, pedals, and
    chainring came off a gym spin bike.
    http://www.katzinteractive.com/images/sch001.jpg
    /s

  18. "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2004-08-11, Slacker penned:

    <stuff about fixies>

    I've also been pondering a fixed-gear bike ... but track bikes don't
    have brakes! I like brakes. I want at least one on there somewhere.

    Is there a way to attach brakes to a straight track bike, like the
    cannondale or the Bianchi?

    The forks on both bikes are drilled for a front brake.

    You sissy!

    /s

  19. On 2004-08-12, supabonbon penned:

    Quoted message said:


    You sissy!

    Hey, I saw that!

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  20. Mark Hickey <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Monique Y. Mudama said:

    Is there a way to attach brakes to a straight track bike, like the
    cannondale or the Bianchi?

    All you really need is a front brake (oh, and some skill in using your
    back "brake" which is really your legs). That means at worst you just
    have to find a fork that is drilled for a front brake caliper. Since
    the cable doesn't go near the frame, that's all that's required.

    OK, that and a front brake, a lever and some cable...

    www.habcycles.com/fixie.jpg

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

    53x18?

    Do I win the frame? 😉
    Nice bike. Anything different from the standard Hab road frame other
    than the rear dropouts?

    /s

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