OT Easy answer for New Orleans

The saddest thing is America was expected to help all other countries,
but you notice none have tried to help us out on this??? I say bring
our troops home to help us here, to hell with the rest of them!

In article <[email hidden]>,

gweebles said:

The saddest thing is America was expected to help all other countries,
but you notice none have tried to help us out on this??? I say bring
our troops home to help us here, to hell with the rest of them!

I call [censored] here. Starting with Venezuela early in the week, and
continuing, dozens of countries have offered aid of medicine, search and
rescue teams, food, oil, etc. Searching news.google.com for "Katrina
foreign aid" turns up over 1000 hits. Just scanning the first page of
hits, I see offers from: Sweden, Norway, Japan, Taiwan, and Russia. The
first hit
<http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID
=2005-09-02T235528Z_01_BAU271501_RTRIDST_0_USREPORT-WEATHER-KATRINA-FOREI
GN-DC.XML>, the Reuters story, refers to offers from Venezuela, Cuba,
Sri Lanka, Mexico, Germany, France, England, in addition to the above.
Here's the last paragraph of the news story:

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The department said offers of help had been received from: Australia,
Austria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Belgium, Canada, China, Columbia,
Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, the European
Union, France, Germany, Guatemala, Greece, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary,
Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Lithuania,
Luxembourg, Mexico, NATO, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the Organization
of American States, Paraguay, Philippines, Portugal, South Korea, Russia,
Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Sweden,
Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, Venezuela,
the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the World Health
Organization.

Any more misconceptions you'd like me to address?

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

"gweebles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The saddest thing is America was expected to help all other countries,
but you notice none have tried to help us out on this??? I say bring
our troops home to help us here, to hell with the rest of them!

No. That's not the saddest thing. The really saddest thing is the abject
ignorance of some of the folks posting here. They make up their mind on a
point of view, and then promulgate it as if it were indeed fact.

More than 60 countries from around the world have offered and/or already
sent help. Our state department has already said that all offers thusly
made have been accepted and received with gratitude.

L8r all,
Dusty

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gweebles mentioned in passing :

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The saddest thing is America was expected to help all other countries,
but you notice none have tried to help us out on this???

No, I didn't notice that, but then, I was actually watching and trying
to learn the truth.

[Headline Sept. 3, 2005]U.S. thanks dozens of foreign countries for aid
By Sue Pleming
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Friday thanked dozens of foreign
governments -- rich and poor, enemy and friend -- for their offers to help
the world's wealthiest country recover from devastating Hurricane Katrina.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said just as the United States
responded generously to disasters worldwide, so had nearly 60 nations come
to America's side after Hurricane Katrina ripped through New Orleans and
other parts of the U.S. Gulf Coast, killing hundreds and possibly thousands
of people.

"Today, we are seeing a similar urgent, warm and compassionate reaction from
the international community in response to Katrina," Rice told a news
conference.

Rice said no aid had been turned down and she was particularly moved by an
offer from Sri Lanka, itself recovering from last year's Indian Ocean
tsunami.

On FOX news this morning they said more than 60 countries have offered
help of one kind or another.

I just hope we'll say THANKS! and LET them help.

Lass

Re: OT Easy answer for New Orleans

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Sat, Sep 3, 2005, 9:33am (EDT-3)
From: [email hidden] (gweebles)
The saddest thing is America was expected to help all other countries,
but you notice none have tried to help us out on this??? I say bring our
troops home to help us here, to hell with the rest of them!

Oddly enough, when I post something positive or contributing to this
site, nobody responds, but everyone jumps on the wagon to claw me to
pieces on something they don't agree with. Just goes to show the
national change of mood and attitude with all that is going on. I work
in customer service and the whole general attitude stinks with most
people these days. A lot has happened to this country and a lot will
still happen, things aren't going to get better anytime soon. I
apologize to those who take or took offense over what I say and to the
others I can just say "bite me" because all are entitled to their
opinions, but now I remember why I quit posting here years ago, when
this place quit being so supportive and contributing. Here I see
people come for help and get bashed and told they make excuses, not
just by a few, but most of the active posters who have some kind of
superiority complex. This place is just pathetic lately. I have and
had friends lost in this storm too. Yes I'm upset, but I try to be
more positive although some [censored] bash down on me too. That's life.
I lost it all in Hurricane Allen in the 80's I do know what it is like
starting over and waiting for help. Luckily we weren't in the 1000's
like this place, I heartily agree that aid is too little and too late.

Your attitude and proper thinking are the one's that are lacking.

Once again you've made a great case for obesity and idiocy being
inextricably linked.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"gweebles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Oddly enough, when I post something positive or contributing to this
site, nobody responds, but everyone jumps on the wagon to claw me to
pieces on something they don't agree with. Just goes to show the
national change of mood and attitude with all that is going on. I work
in customer service and the whole general attitude stinks with most
people these days. A lot has happened to this country and a lot will
still happen, things aren't going to get better anytime soon. I
apologize to those who take or took offense over what I say and to the
others I can just say "bite me" because all are entitled to their
opinions, but now I remember why I quit posting here years ago, when
this place quit being so supportive and contributing. Here I see
people come for help and get bashed and told they make excuses, not
just by a few, but most of the active posters who have some kind of
superiority complex. This place is just pathetic lately. I have and
had friends lost in this storm too. Yes I'm upset, but I try to be
more positive although some [censored] bash down on me too. That's life.
I lost it all in Hurricane Allen in the 80's I do know what it is like
starting over and waiting for help. Luckily we weren't in the 1000's
like this place, I heartily agree that aid is too little and too late.

Gweebles....I hope I wasnt included in those who hurt your feelings. I
just thought you were mistaken, hadnt heard the announcement of other
countries offering help.

Everything is unfolding one minute at a time---and changes from hour to
hour. It was only yesterday morning my Italian friend said "Why arent
you accepting our help?" Ane i hadnt even heard of the offer OR the
decline of help! All I could do was write back, "What?"

Today we learned of the many offers extended.

Yesterday I was thinking, "Why arent they dropping food and water from
helicopters to "roof" people?" Today, they ARE dropping food and water
to the roof folks, LOL--- Ever heard that old joke, "If you dont like
the weather, stick around a few mnutes! It'll change!"?

The "weather" is changing so fast it's hard to keep up.

Im sorry you lost it all during
"Allen"---I mised "Hugo" by less than a week---thank God.....the coral
reef was so damaged that when I went back to St. Croix, a year later,
most of the wildlife was still gone. My son and I used to find a cup
full of hermit crabs in a few minutews. A year after Hugo, we could
only find three in two hours. Even the bats and mongoose were depleted.
Where you could once snorkle and see schools of 100 or more Angel or
Parrot fish....you couldnt find one.

I guess Mother Nature gets PMS.....?

LassChance

Re: OT Easy answer for New Orleans

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Sat, Sep 3, 2005, 11:18am (EDT-3)
From: [email hidden] (gweebles)
Oddly enough, when I post something positive or contributing to this
site, nobody responds, but everyone jumps on the wagon to claw me to
pieces on something they don't agree with. Just goes to show the
national change of mood and attitude with all that is going on. I work
in customer service and the whole general attitude stinks with most
people these days. A lot has happened to this country and a lot will
still happen, things aren't going to get better anytime soon. I
apologize to those who take or took offense over what I say and to the
others I can just say "bite me" because all are entitled to their
opinions, but now I remember why I quit posting here years ago, when
this place quit being so supportive and contributing. Here I see people
come for help and get bashed and told they make excuses, not just by a
few, but most of the active posters who have some kind of superiority
complex. This place is just pathetic lately. I have and had friends lost
in this storm too. Yes I'm upset, but I try to be more positive although
some [censored] bash down on me too. That's life.
  I lost it all in Hurricane Allen in the 80's I do know what it is
like starting over and waiting for help. Luckily we weren't in the
1000's like this place, I heartily agree that aid is too little and too
late.

Gweebles:

You posted that no other country had offered help as of yet. Several
people corrected this impression (as in fact, at least 60 countries
from across the economic spectrum have offered help). This is
correcting some false notion you had come across. That correction is
part of the marketplace of information. I'm sorry you don't feel it's
useful, but when you shoot off with misinformation and follow with
similarly poorly informed jingoistic nationalism, what kind of response
do you expect.

As examples, just from this past week (paraphrased):
This thread: If other countries won't help us, f-em and see where we
are when they need help (in fact, on a per capita/per GDP basis, the US
is actually pretty stingy with foreign aid/disaster relief, though in
terms of total dollars, we are #1... additionally, other countries are
willing to help and the State department is making this possible).

Some thread about Oil: OPEC is jacking us all, so screw em (when in
fact, OPEC is only a portion of the oil supply chain that is causing
high gas prices, and probably not the leading determinant, due to the
nature of commodity markets, speculation, one disaster after the other,
and global refining capacity).

If you're going to have opinions, and put them forward, and not be
"jumped on" and "clawed to pieces", please make them well informed and
well thought out opinions. Or be ready to defend them. I'm sure that
you wish the customers you served were better informed. I know that my
three years in sales would have been much easier with a better informed
customer.

Last note: If you want support, ask for it. If you want sycophantic
agreement with half-baked politics and policy thoughts, you are
probably in the wrong place.

Hollywood

gweebles said:

Oddly enough, when I post something positive or contributing to this
site, nobody responds, but everyone jumps on the wagon to claw me to
pieces on something they don't agree with. Just goes to show the
national change of mood and attitude with all that is going on. I work
in customer service and the whole general attitude stinks with most
people these days. A lot has happened to this country and a lot will
still happen, things aren't going to get better anytime soon. I
apologize to those who take or took offense over what I say and to the
others I can just say "bite me" because all are entitled to their
opinions, but now I remember why I quit posting here years ago, when
this place quit being so supportive and contributing. Here I see
people come for help and get bashed and told they make excuses, not
just by a few, but most of the active posters who have some kind of
superiority complex. This place is just pathetic lately. I have and
had friends lost in this storm too. Yes I'm upset, but I try to be
more positive although some [censored] bash down on me too. That's life.
I lost it all in Hurricane Allen in the 80's I do know what it is like
starting over and waiting for help. Luckily we weren't in the 1000's
like this place, I heartily agree that aid is too little and too late.

You nailed him! Some [censored] comes and posts something untrue and
inflammatory then 'gets his feelings hurt' when other people point out his
mistake. Sheesh! We're supposed to be "supportive" of that? No way!

Pat in TX

In article <[email hidden]>, "Pat" <[email hidden]>

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You nailed him! Some [censored] comes and posts something untrue and
inflammatory then 'gets his feelings hurt' when other people point out his
mistake. Sheesh! We're supposed to be "supportive" of that? No way!

She may have been wrong in what she posted, but she's not a [censored] and
she's not a drive-by troll. She's gotten plenty of support here in the
past.

This particular error is a dangerous one, and here isn't the only place
I've corrected it. What happened in New Orleans is a tragedy of the
first order, and how our leaders have handled it doesn't speak well for
them. But we don't have to go make things worse by spreading
misinformation, especially when it's so easy to go to news.google.com
and find many, many stories about offers of aid from overseas.

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Yeah, JC like your opinion matters to me.

Pat

First of all dipshit, I'm a HER not a HIM. Second, I have been part of
this group years ago when we were a supportive community instead of a
bunch of self righteous jerks. I am not just talking OT stuff here but
LC as well. I have been lurking here and am appaled by the lack of
support this group has as a whole and am really not suprised why some
of the old timers aren't here anymore.

So to put it in a nutshell, KISS MY ASS!!!

the "[censored]"

All this time and you still haven't learned to quote properly?

No wonder you're obese.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"gweebles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yeah, JC like your opinion matters to me.

I'm appalled that you would attempt to use a word, such as appalled, that
you can't even spell.

Idiot.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"gweebles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Pat

First of all dipshit, I'm a HER not a HIM. Second, I have been part of
this group years ago when we were a supportive community instead of a
bunch of self righteous jerks. I am not just talking OT stuff here but
LC as well. I have been lurking here and am appaled by the lack of
support this group has as a whole and am really not suprised why some
of the old timers aren't here anymore.

So to put it in a nutshell, KISS MY ASS!!!

the "[censored]"

"gweebles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The saddest thing is America was expected to help all other countries,
but you notice none have tried to help us out on this??? I say bring
our troops home to help us here, to hell with the rest of them!

what are you blind?
many, many countries have come forth to help!

"Alice Faber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

gweebles said:

The saddest thing is America was expected to help all other

countries,

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but you notice none have tried to help us out on this??? I say

bring

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our troops home to help us here, to hell with the rest of them!

I call [censored] here. Starting with Venezuela early in the week, and
continuing, dozens of countries have offered aid of medicine, search

and

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rescue teams, food, oil, etc. Searching news.google.com for "Katrina
foreign aid" turns up over 1000 hits. Just scanning the first page of
hits, I see offers from: Sweden, Norway, Japan, Taiwan, and Russia.

The

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first hit

<http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyI
D

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=2005-09-02T235528Z_01_BAU271501_RTRIDST_0_USREPORT-WEATHER-KATRINA-FORE
I

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GN-DC.XML>, the Reuters story, refers to offers from Venezuela, Cuba,
Sri Lanka, Mexico, Germany, France, England, in addition to the above.
Here's the last paragraph of the news story:

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The department said offers of help had been received from:

Australia,

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Austria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Belgium, Canada, China,

Columbia,

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Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, the

European

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Union, France, Germany, Guatemala, Greece, Guyana, Honduras,

Hungary,

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Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan,

Lithuania,

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Luxembourg, Mexico, NATO, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the

Organization

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of American States, Paraguay, Philippines, Portugal, South Korea,

Russia,

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Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Switzerland,

Sweden,

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Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates,

Venezuela,

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the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the World Health
Organization.

Any more misconceptions you'd like me to address?

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

ALRIGHT ALICE!

GWEEBS......................
don't take it personally, just update your reading!

--

MEET WITH THE MOTHERS!
http://www.meetwiththemothers.org/

KATRINA VICTIMS HELP!
http://www.airamericaradio.com/katrina/

"gweebles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Oddly enough, when I post something positive or contributing to this
site, nobody responds, but everyone jumps on the wagon to claw me to
pieces on something they don't agree with. Just goes to show the
national change of mood and attitude with all that is going on. I

work

Quoted message said:

in customer service and the whole general attitude stinks with most
people these days. A lot has happened to this country and a lot will
still happen, things aren't going to get better anytime soon. I
apologize to those who take or took offense over what I say and to the
others I can just say "bite me" because all are entitled to their
opinions, but now I remember why I quit posting here years ago, when
this place quit being so supportive and contributing. Here I see
people come for help and get bashed and told they make excuses, not
just by a few, but most of the active posters who have some kind of
superiority complex. This place is just pathetic lately. I have and
had friends lost in this storm too. Yes I'm upset, but I try to be
more positive although some [censored] bash down on me too. That's

life.

Quoted message said:

I lost it all in Hurricane Allen in the 80's I do know what it is

like

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starting over and waiting for help. Luckily we weren't in the 1000's
like this place, I heartily agree that aid is too little and too late.

well PAT, you have been told!
😉

--

MEET WITH THE MOTHERS!
http://www.meetwiththemothers.org/

KATRINA VICTIMS HELP!
http://www.airamericaradio.com/katrina/

"gweebles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Pat

First of all dipshit, I'm a HER not a HIM. Second, I have been part

of

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this group years ago when we were a supportive community instead of a
bunch of self righteous jerks. I am not just talking OT stuff here

but

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LC as well. I have been lurking here and am appaled by the lack of
support this group has as a whole and am really not suprised why some
of the old timers aren't here anymore.

So to put it in a nutshell, KISS MY ASS!!!

the "[censored]"