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  1. Residents of the Mile High City have voted to legalize the possession
    of small
    amounts of marijuana for adults. Authorities, though, said state
    possession
    laws will be applied instead.

    With 100 percent of precincts reporting early Wednesday, 54 percent,
    or
    56,001 voters, cast ballots for the ordinance, while 46 percent, or
    48,632
    voters, voted against it.

    Under the measure, residents over 21 years old could possess up to an
    ounce of
    marijuana.

    "We educated voters about the facts that marijuana is less harmful to
    the user
    and society than alcohol," said Mason Tvert, campaign organizer for
    SAFER, or
    Safer Alternatives For Enjoyable Recreation. "To prohibit adults from
    making
    the rational, safer choice to use marijuana is bad public policy."

    Bruce Mirken of the Washington, D.C.-based Marijuana Policy Project
    said he
    hoped the approval will launch a national trend toward legalizing a
    drug whose
    enforcement he said causes more problems than it cures.

    Seattle, Oakland, Calif., and a few college towns already have laws
    making
    possession the lowest law enforcement priority.

    The Denver proposal seemed to draw at least as much attention for
    supporters'
    campaign tactics as it did for the question of legalizing the drug.

    Tvert argued that legalizing marijuana would reduce consumption of
    alcohol,
    which he said leads to higher rates of car accidents, domestic and
    street
    violence and crime.

    The group criticized Mayor John Hickenlooper for opposing the proposal,
    noting
    his ownership of a popular brewpub. It also said recent violent crimes
    -
    including the shootings of four people last weekend - as a reason to
    legalize
    marijuana to steer people away from alcohol use.

    Those tactics angered local officials and some voters. Opponents also
    said it
    made no sense to prevent prosecution by Denver authorities while
    marijuana
    charges are most often filed under state and federal law.

    The measure would not affect the medical marijuana law voters approved
    in
    2000. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that medical marijuana
    laws in
    Colorado and nine other states would not protect licensed users from
    federal
    prosecution.

    I'll allow the replys to separate the informed from the propagandized.
    .. .

    x1134x

  2. x1134x said:

    Residents of the Mile High City have voted to legalize the possession
    of small
    amounts of marijuana for adults. Authorities, though, said state
    possession
    laws will be applied instead.
    <snip>

    As much as I hate to admit it, I agree with you on this.

    Their controversial "It's safer than alcohol" campaign was spot on in my
    opinion.

    It may not really change much but it does send a powerful message. Not
    saying pot is necessarily safe, but it's definitely no worse than
    alcohol or tobacco and was outlawed for the wrong (political) reasons to
    start with.

    Matt

  3. the best way to affect change is from the bottom up, not the top down.
    When politicians realize the number of people for decriminalization
    outnumber those for behaivior controll, they will pander to the
    majority.

    BTW I'm not stoned on the double post, sometimes google sucks ass, It
    said there was a server error try again later, so I did, then it posted
    both of them.

    x1134x

  4. x1134x said:

    the best way to affect change is from the bottom up, not the top down.
    When politicians realize the number of people for decriminalization
    outnumber those for behaivior controll, they will pander to the
    majority.

    BTW I'm not stoned on the double post, sometimes google sucks ass, It
    said there was a server error try again later, so I did, then it
    posted both of them.

    So what's your excuse for quoting some times and (more often) not?

    Same for top-posting -- sometimes you don't, but more often you do.

    Something to do with... Happy Hour?!?

  5. I guess my response is: I don't need an excuse. Just because I don't
    frame my replies by quoting the entire rant of the previous person and
    drop my stuff at the bottom really isn't a big deal. Do you have a
    preference which hand I wipe my butt with? Sometimes my points are
    better made that way, I say my point, pull the relative quotes from the
    people that have already posted that pertain to my arguement and add
    my comments about their points and why I aggree/disagree w/ those
    particular comments. The only confusing things I've done are
    double-posting, due to goole's "server error - please try again" or
    clicked the wrong reply button a couple of times.

    x1134x

  6. "x1134x" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I guess my response is: I don't need an excuse. Just because I don't
    frame my replies by quoting the entire rant of the previous person and
    drop my stuff at the bottom really isn't a big deal.

    I have no idea who you're responding to. Any point you're trying to make is
    pointless without context.

    Greg

  7. G.T. said:

    "x1134x" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I guess my response is: I don't need an excuse. Just because I don't
    frame my replies by quoting the entire rant of the previous person and
    drop my stuff at the bottom really isn't a big deal.

    I have no idea who you're responding to. Any point you're trying to make is
    pointless without context.

    Greg

    I guess you guys don't have a "sort by reply" option in your browsers?
    because each reply in my browser is tiered on the left such that each
    reply is indented directly under the post it is replying to. It's
    obvious who's replying to who regardless of whether or not they quote
    the text of the previous person. are you using google? if so look for
    the "view as tree" link. it will add a frame to the right that you can
    sort by reply or by date of post. But if it makes it easier for you. .
    .. . I'll copy your entire post to the TOP of mine {:-)

    x1134x

  8. "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "x1134x" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I guess my response is: I don't need an excuse. Just because I don't
    frame my replies by quoting the entire rant of the previous person and
    drop my stuff at the bottom really isn't a big deal.

    I have no idea who you're responding to. Any point you're trying to make
    is
    pointless without context.

    Greg

    **cough-cough [censored]-cough cough**

  9. Dave W said:

    "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "x1134x" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I guess my response is: I don't need an excuse. Just because I don't
    frame my replies by quoting the entire rant of the previous person and
    drop my stuff at the bottom really isn't a big deal.

    I have no idea who you're responding to. Any point you're trying to make
    is
    pointless without context.

    Greg

    **cough-cough [censored]-cough cough**

    If you pick out the seeds it won't make you cough so hard.

  10. "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "x1134x" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I guess my response is: I don't need an excuse. Just because I don't
    frame my replies by quoting the entire rant of the previous person and
    drop my stuff at the bottom really isn't a big deal.

    I have no idea who you're responding to. Any point you're trying to


    make

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is
    pointless without context.

    Greg

    **cough-cough [censored]-cough cough**

    In this case I see who you're responding to but I don't think anyone can
    figure out what your problem is. OTOH, maybe Matt's got it right.

    Greg

  11. "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Dave W said:

    "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "x1134x" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >I guess my response is: I don't need an excuse. Just because I don't
    >frame my replies by quoting the entire rant of the previous person and
    >drop my stuff at the bottom really isn't a big deal.

    I have no idea who you're responding to. Any point you're trying to make
    is
    pointless without context.

    Greg

    **cough-cough [censored]-cough cough**

    If you pick out the seeds it won't make you cough so hard.

    Guess you are an old dude huh? usually don't get many seeds these days.
    Kinda like vinyl. Remember using your double album (whichever) to seed your
    dope....ah the memories.

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