OT: Car gets 250 mpg!

In article <[email hidden]>, ferrante276-
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With gas as costly as it is, I would like everyone to read this story
about this guy who says his prototype car can get 250 miles per gallon
of gas. Big Oil companies would hate this. It is from an ABC News
site:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1035443

Fatts

The actual car only gets 80MPG but even at that, I'd be spending < $200
a year on fuel.

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In article <[email hidden]>, ferrante276-
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With gas as costly as it is, I would like everyone to read this story
about this guy who says his prototype car can get 250 miles per gallon
of gas. Big Oil companies would hate this. It is from an ABC News
site:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1035443

Fatts

The actual car only gets 80MPG but even at that, I'd be spending < $200
a year on fuel.

Where you gonna get the electricity? Coal? Nuclear?

If he took out the gas motor all together he could get infinite mpg.

del cecchi

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Where you gonna get the electricity? Coal? Nuclear?

The electricity is generated by the engine as it runs and stored. You
need the fuel as a boost and assist when the electricity stores are
low.

Currently, Ballard Power Systems, the only company on the cutting edge
of this technology, is working to develop a fully operational electric
fuel cell.

http://www.ballard.com/

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"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

In article <[email hidden]>, Michel Boucher

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"Del Cecchi" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Where you gonna get the electricity? Coal? Nuclear?

The electricity is generated by the engine as it runs and stored. You
need the fuel as a boost and assist when the electricity stores are
low.

Nice try. I couldn't read the article, but you can't get 250mpg in any
sort of usable hybrid car. There was a ridiculous story on tv last night
about a car that got 100mpg. Turned out it was a modified Toyota Prius.
The guy spent US$3000 to add a second set of batteries, which are charged
by plugging them into an extension cord in his garage (or anywhere else).
The car only got 100mpg if you remembered to charge the batteries, using
electricity generated by fossil fuels, water or nuclear energy.

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Currently, Ballard Power Systems, the only company on the cutting edge
of this technology, is working to develop a fully operational electric
fuel cell.

Last review I read of a fuel cell car was that generating the fuel for it
used more energy than just using a gas engine.

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Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
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On Mon 15 Aug 2005 12:50:08p, Dan Abel wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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In article <[email hidden]>, Michel

Boucher said:

"Del Cecchi" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Where you gonna get the electricity? Coal? Nuclear?

The electricity is generated by the engine as it runs and stored. You
need the fuel as a boost and assist when the electricity stores are
low.

Nice try. I couldn't read the article, but you can't get 250mpg in any
sort of usable hybrid car. There was a ridiculous story on tv last
night about a car that got 100mpg. Turned out it was a modified Toyota
Prius. The guy spent US$3000 to add a second set of batteries, which are
charged by plugging them into an extension cord in his garage (or
anywhere else). The car only got 100mpg if you remembered to charge the
batteries, using electricity generated by fossil fuels, water or nuclear
energy.

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Currently, Ballard Power Systems, the only company on the cutting edge
of this technology, is working to develop a fully operational electric
fuel cell.

Last review I read of a fuel cell car was that generating the fuel for
it used more energy than just using a gas engine.

I think a lot of owners of these cars only care about what it's *not*
costing them at the gas pump.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

[email hidden] (Dan Abel) wrote in
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The electricity is generated by the engine as it runs and stored.
You need the fuel as a boost and assist when the electricity
stores are low.

Nice try.

Sorry, but I wasn't trying.

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I couldn't read the article, but you can't get 250mpg
in any sort of usable hybrid car.

Not at the current state of affairs no. I believe the norm is 80mpg,
or at least I think that's what 3 l/100km is equivalent to...roughly.

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Currently, Ballard Power Systems, the only company on the cutting
edge of this technology, is working to develop a fully
operational electric fuel cell.

Last review I read of a fuel cell car was that generating the fuel
for it used more energy than just using a gas engine.

Sheesh...I did say that Ballard was working towards achieving that
goal.

Of course, gasoline engines could be improved to burn at more than
30% efficiency which would also reduce the use of gasoline, but it
doesn't look like anyone wants to go that route...so...

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"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

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Currently, Ballard Power Systems, the only company on the cutting edge
of this technology, is working to develop a fully operational electric
fuel cell.

http://www.ballard.com/

Do you think we will ever live to see an alternative fuel source for
cars? If so, how long do you think it will take? Friends say it will
never happen as too many people are making too much $$ with oil.

Your thoughts?

Fatts

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Currently, Ballard Power Systems, the only company on the cutting
edge of this technology, is working to develop a fully operational
electric fuel cell.

http://www.ballard.com/

Do you think we will ever live to see an alternative fuel source
for cars? If so, how long do you think it will take? Friends say
it will never happen as too many people are making too much $$
with oil.

Your thoughts?

Like everything else, the will has to be there. Already we see that
oil companies are diversifying into alternate fuel sources like
hydrogen and solar power.

If capitalism was truly what its adherents say it is, the market
would be constantly responsive to consumer desires. We would have
alternative fuel sources to the point where they would no longer be
considered alternative. Unfortunately capitalism is held prisoner in
the grip of oligarchies (in this case a correct term) that prefer to
limit consumer choices so new doohickeys rather than significant
improvements in those areas that havean impact on the environment.

There are those who say it is no use and have given up and there are
those whose scrooge-like interior sees this depredation as a correct
move.

How it will go, I have no idea. How it CAN go, is easy to see. Keep
in mind that public flogging of profiteers is a viable option.

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"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot