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  1. Sorry to be so Off Topic, but a web search hasn't helped. Last night I
    watched "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid", and it had an entirely
    different ending. Does anyone know why? The famous ending that I
    remember was the two of them heading for the cliff,with the river far
    below. Redford says "I can't swim", and Newman saying "The fall alone
    will kill ya'." And they jump off the high cliff, yelling "Oh, sh-t".
    In the version I saw last night, the two of them, after a hopeless
    shoot-out, and injured, run toward the camera with a volley of gunfire
    behind them. Then there is a long freeze-frame of the two of them side
    by side, heading straight toward the camera, with the gunfire
    continuing. THE END. Very effective, poetic, even. But no jumping
    off the cliff.
    Is anyone aware of this practice? And why would they change the
    ending? Would love to hear your comments.
    Thank you.
    Nancree

  2. "nancree" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Sorry to be so Off Topic, but a web search hasn't helped. Last night I
    watched "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid", and it had an entirely
    different ending. Does anyone know why? The famous ending that I
    remember was the two of them heading for the cliff,with the river far
    below. Redford says "I can't swim", and Newman saying "The fall alone
    will kill ya'." And they jump off the high cliff, yelling "Oh, sh-t".

    You must have missed it - that scene "jumping off the cliff" is in the middle of
    the movie before going to South America( Bolivia IIRC). The ending was in a
    shoot out with the army.

    Dimitri

    <Snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Nancree

  3. Nan, the ending that you remember , was NOT the ending, it happened
    somewhere in the middle of the movie, and they got away.

    The movie ending they had was correct, they go out to gunfire and
    then.... who knows, my opinion is, they left it to the imagination as
    they is speculation as to whether Butch survived to a ripe old age.

    I have read a couple of books on this, one written I think, by his
    sister.

    Look it up, sort of fun to reasearch this.
    Rosie

  4. nancree wrote on 15 Jul 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry to be so Off Topic, but a web search hasn't helped. Last
    night I watched "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid", and it had an
    entirely different ending. Does anyone know why? The famous
    ending that I remember was the two of them heading for the
    cliff,with the river far below. Redford says "I can't swim", and
    Newman saying "The fall alone will kill ya'." And they jump off
    the high cliff, yelling "Oh, sh-t".
    In the version I saw last night, the two of them, after a
    hopeless
    shoot-out, and injured, run toward the camera with a volley of
    gunfire behind them. Then there is a long freeze-frame of the two
    of them side by side, heading straight toward the camera, with the
    gunfire continuing. THE END. Very effective, poetic, even. But
    no jumping off the cliff.
    Is anyone aware of this practice? And why would they change the
    ending? Would love to hear your comments.
    Thank you.
    Nancree

    The Famous cliff scene happens about 1/2 way thru the movie. The
    railroad decides to get serious...Sends out a crack team to track
    them down...The Cliff jump was their only out. Movie continues
    with scenes in NY City and then Bolivia....In the ending I
    remember...They get shot by I think 1/2 of the bolivian army, after
    robbing a silver mine. You don't see them get shot...but they run out
    into a blazing hale of rifle fire...I haven't seen the movie in about
    10 yrs so if this seems disjointed...blame my memory.

    --
    It's not a question of where he grips it!
    It's a simple question of weight ratios!

    A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

    Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

  5. Thanks, everyone, for correcting me on the cliff jump. I must have
    nodded off at the wrong time.
    Nancree

  6. nancree said:

    Sorry to be so Off Topic, but a web search hasn't helped. Last night I
    watched "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid", and it had an entirely
    different ending. Does anyone know why? The famous ending that I
    remember was the two of them heading for the cliff,with the river far
    below. Redford says "I can't swim", and Newman saying "The fall alone
    will kill ya'." And they jump off the high cliff, yelling "Oh, sh-t".
    In the version I saw last night, the two of them, after a hopeless
    shoot-out, and injured, run toward the camera with a volley of gunfire
    behind them. Then there is a long freeze-frame of the two of them side
    by side, heading straight toward the camera, with the gunfire
    continuing. THE END. Very effective, poetic, even. But no jumping
    off the cliff.
    Is anyone aware of this practice? And why would they change the
    ending? Would love to hear your comments.

    The shoot-out/freeze frame is the original ending. You must have been
    more impressed with the cliff-jumping scene when you first saw it, and
    that stuck in your mind.

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  7. "Monsur Fromage du Pollet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    The Famous cliff scene happens about 1/2 way thru the movie. The
    railroad decides to get serious...Sends out a crack team to track
    them down...The Cliff jump was their only out. Movie continues
    with scenes in NY City and then Bolivia....In the ending I
    remember...They get shot by I think 1/2 of the bolivian army, after
    robbing a silver mine. You don't see them get shot...but they run out
    into a blazing hale of rifle fire...I haven't seen the movie in about
    10 yrs so if this seems disjointed...blame my memory.

    OK, as long as we're bringing up great exits, how about Thelma and Louise
    sailing off into the Great Blue Yonder?

    Felice

  8. nancree said:

    Thanks, everyone, for correcting me on the cliff jump. I must have
    nodded off at the wrong time.

    It's understandable, the movie being such a snooze.

    I remember watching it back in the day and thinking it an ok movie.
    Unfortunately, like beehive hairdoos and leisure suits, things from
    that era don't always age well. BC/SDK is one of these. Seeing Paul
    and Bob crack lame jokes in between shootouts just doesn't work
    anymore. Seeing it again, recently, I couldn't take it for more than
    about 5 minutes. I wish all I remembered is up to the jump off the
    cliff, too. .....and that damned "Raindrops" song is in that infernal
    Please-shoot-me-I-can't-get-it-out-of-my-head catagory. 😉

    nb

  9. notbob said:

    It's understandable, the movie being such a snooze.

    I remember watching it back in the day and thinking it an ok movie.
    Unfortunately, like beehive hairdoos and leisure suits, things from
    that era don't always age well. BC/SDK is one of these. Seeing Paul
    and Bob crack lame jokes in between shootouts just doesn't work
    anymore. Seeing it again, recently, I couldn't take it for more than
    about 5 minutes. I wish all I remembered is up to the jump off the
    cliff, too. .....and that damned "Raindrops" song is in that infernal
    Please-shoot-me-I-can't-get-it-out-of-my-head catagory. 😉

    nb

    Thank you!!! I HATE that song.

    Why my husband reveres this movie so much is beyond me.

  10. I-zheet M'drurz said:

    Now *that* was a great "buddy movie", and it's a shame those two
    guys never did anything worth mentioning after that (IMHO, of
    course)

    It was a great foodie movie, too. Maybe not so much for actual
    cooking, but for the NY restaurant atmosphere, much like Dinner Rush.
    I enjoyed it on so many levels. The hoods were slimey, the cops were
    slimeyer, Geraldine Page was excellent, and Kenneth McMillan as Barney
    was also good. Oh, more foodie stuff ....Eric chewed the scenery with
    relish! (Chah-leeeeee!!) I also fell in love with that particular
    Sinatra song, but it was the intro that did it for me. That dressing
    scene was so cool I started dressing a little nicer, myself.

    nb

  11. notbob spaketh thusly:

    Quoted message said:

    On 2005-07-15, I-zheet M'drurz <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Now *that* was a great "buddy movie", and it's a shame those
    two guys never did anything worth mentioning after that
    (IMHO, of course)

    Quoted message said:

    It was a great foodie movie, too. Maybe not so much for actual
    cooking, but for the NY restaurant atmosphere, much like Dinner
    Rush. I enjoyed it on so many levels.

    Since then, I've had the opportunity (!?) to work with a semi-
    drunk cook who was in cahoots with the barmaids. So yeah, this
    foodie knows that art imitates life or is that the other way
    around? :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Eric ... (Chah-leeeeee!!)

    Chalooch!

    This horse has artificial inspiration, Chah-lie...

    Quoted message said:

    I also fell in love with that particular Sinatra song, but it was
    the intro that did it for me. That dressing scene was so cool I
    started dressing a little nicer, myself.

    Indeed. Any red-blooded american male that didn't want to be a
    wise guy after watching that movie just didn't have a clue.

    --
    _________________________________________
    If u are gonna say that I said something,
    please say what I REALLY said. ($1 Earl)

  12. Nancree wrote:
    <snipped description of Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid Ending>

    The cliff-jumping scene is actually in the middle of the movie - always
    has been. That's how they get away from the Super Posse. The rest of
    the movie is about Butch and Sundance going to Bolivia, where they (as
    you saw) are killed.

    If you'd like to read a little about the movie, how it was made, and
    see the script, find a copy of William Goldman's book, "Adventures in
    the Screen Trade".

    Goldman is one of my favorite script writers...he also wrote the novel
    and screenplay for "The Princess Bride".

    Lisa Ann

  13. Lisa Ann wrote on 15 Jul 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Goldman is one of my favorite script writers...he also wrote the
    novel and screenplay for "The Princess Bride".

    Lisa Ann

    His script was good but his book "The Princess Bride" (written after
    the movie) was better.

    --
    It's not a question of where he grips it!
    It's a simple question of weight ratios!

    A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

    Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

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