OT but [music] not [photography] ;-)

SteveO said:

Her name is Natalie Merchant

Formerly frontwoman of 10,000 Maniacs, so you may wish to look into
their back catalogue too. I have Blind Man's Zoo and particularly
like "Trouble Me", but overall NM doesn't quite convince me, but I
can't really put my finger on why.

You might also take a listen to Sarah Mclachlan and Dar Williams
for good female singer/songwriters who've made quite an impression
overall but not so much in the UK. And Joni Mitchell, of course,
who everyone's heard of but probably not so many have listened to
these days. "Blue" belongs in a lot more collections than actually
have it, I suspect.

Pete.
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SteveO@?.?.invalid writes

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In a very broad-brush kind of way I was drawn to think about the
thread that recently lead us to Cat Bells and Yewbarrow -via-
cardboard boxes and low-impact environmental thoughts (...including
one of us wanting to be fed to the crows ;-) ) by music.

I've just noticed that a track on an album by an artiste who's work I
rate, the track is called "Bury Me Under The Weeping Willow". I really
like this artistes' work and, perversely ;-) think that a few folk
around might agree with me do so too, tho' she's not well known...
hence my post. I don't know the track, yet.

Her name is Natalie Merchant and I'd cut and paste a brief intro if
the site wasn't in flash, so, if you're the least bit curious, have a
look at

http://www.nataliemerchant.com/history/timeline/index.php

I've got Motherland and Tigerlily but not "Carpenter's Daughter". But
the two I do have are very, very good... at least I feel so, took a
while to win me over, but I'm now won ;-)

Is all,

LL&P
((c) Spike Milligan)

You don't think Natalie Merchant is well known? Given her well-regarded
work with 10,000 Maniacs, as well as her solo releases I'd say she was
very well known. (At least by those with a more serious interest in
music).
--
Chris Morriss

Chris Morriss said:

You don't think Natalie Merchant is well known? Given her well-regarded
work with 10,000 Maniacs, as well as her solo releases I'd say she was
very well known. (At least by those with a more serious interest in
music).

Music's a big, wide, place. Has Pavarotti's heard of her? Might
well have, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if not. I think he
has "a more serious interest in music"...

Pete.
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Chris Morriss said:

You don't think Natalie Merchant is well known? Given her
well-regarded work with 10,000 Maniacs, as well as her solo releases
I'd say she was very well known. (At least by those with a more
serious interest in music).

Music's a big, wide, place. Has Pavarotti's heard of her? Might well
have, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if not. I think he has "a
more serious interest in music"...

Pete.

I certainly would be surprised if Pavarotti had not heard of her, if he
has any interest at all in music outside his own specialist area. I'm
afraid I can't really agree that an opera populist warbler like he can
really be defined as having all that serious an interest in music.
--
Chris Morriss

Chris Morriss said:

I certainly would be surprised if Pavarotti had not heard of her, if he
has any interest at all in music outside his own specialist area. I'm
afraid I can't really agree that an opera populist warbler like he can
really be defined as having all that serious an interest in music.

So you're a snob. It's not illegal... Think, say, John Tavener's
a fan?

Pete.
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Peter Clinch said:

Chris Morriss said:

I certainly would be surprised if Pavarotti had not heard of her, if he
has any interest at all in music outside his own specialist area. I'm
afraid I can't really agree that an opera populist warbler like he can
really be defined as having all that serious an interest in music.

So you're a snob. It's not illegal... Think, say, John Tavener's
a fan?

Oh, come on Pete, anyone eith a serious interest in usenet would know
that many people with a serious interest in being pretentious hang out
in these parts. You didn't know that? You can not be serious!?!!?? The
ball was in ...

--
Nobby

Peter Clinch said:

SteveO said:

Her name is Natalie Merchant

Formerly frontwoman of 10,000 Maniacs, so you may wish to look into
their back catalogue too.

I've since read through the timeline Natalie's got on her web site;
the sites changed an awful lot since the first time I visited, rea
about her, but the 10k Maniacs weren't referenced as I recall on the
old site.

Now I'm trying to remember what I remember the 10000maniacs for?

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You might also take a listen to Sarah Mclachlan

I've heard a few Sarah MacLachlan tracks (is it she who sang with
Bryan Adams?), have picked up one of her albums but didn't like it at
all.

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and Dar Williams

Never heard (forgive the pun) [of] her.

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And Joni Mitchell, of course,

My climbing buddy raves about Joni Mitchell and its often playing when
we're on us way to a crag. John mentions something about her 50-some
guitar tuning variations and I, although interested, just get lost in
the conversation. (Yes, I confess to being non-practical wehn it comes
to music)

Chris Morriss said:

You don't think Natalie Merchant is well known? Given her well-regarded
work with 10,000 Maniacs, as well as her solo releases I'd say she was
very well known.

No, haven't heard much of her at all, certainly wasn't aware of her
personally when I knew to the 10kmaniacs.

Quoted message said:

(At least by those with a more serious interest in
music).

<g> I have a serious interest in music 🙂

Chris Morriss said:

I'm
afraid I can't really agree that an opera populist warbler like he can
really be defined as having all that serious an interest in music.

hehe, you're funyy!! 🙂

SteveO said:

I've heard a few Sarah MacLachlan tracks (is it she who sang with
Bryan Adams?), have picked up one of her albums but didn't like it at
all.

I hadn't come across the Bryan Adams duet, but a brief Google shows
there was such a thing. The SM disc I have is "Fumbling Twoards
Ecstasy", can't really comment on the others having not heard them
but some review sites suggest this is a high spot.

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and Dar Williams

Never heard (forgive the pun) [of] her.

Nor had I apart from a happy accident where someone had used her
sone "Road Buddy" as a backing track for a downloadable movie about
the Couch Bike (Googling should show it up, it's quite fun) and a
subsequent purchase showed the disc that was on to (End of Summer)
be generally a goody to my ears. More details at (you've guessed
it...) www.darwilliams.com

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My climbing buddy raves about Joni Mitchell and its often playing when
we're on us way to a crag. John mentions something about her 50-some
guitar tuning variations and I, although interested, just get lost in
the conversation. (Yes, I confess to being non-practical wehn it comes
to music)

I'm non-practical in as much as I can't play anything bar the
kazoo, but rather sadly have info on some guitar tunings (which not
being a player will do me no good at all!) filed away in the
head... Aside from Joni's guitar, "Hejira" has some object lessons
in How To Play Bass Incredibly Well (c/o Jaco Pastorius and others)
underpinnning superb songs.

Pete.
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SteveO said:

Her name is Natalie Merchant

Ahh. I heard her being interviewed by Andy Kershaw on the Beeb a couple of
years back, and consequently bought "Motherland". She'd just filled one of
the bigger London concert venus, and like you, I hadn't heard of her either.
The CD was worth it just for the title track. I wonder if Kershaw's drooling
(yes, audible across the airwaves) got him anywhere?

More mainstream but in a similar orbit, Beth Orton? Not sure if she's done
much recently though.

Martin Carpenter said:

SteveO said:

Her name is Natalie Merchant

Ahh. I heard her being interviewed by Andy Kershaw on the Beeb a couple of
years back, and consequently bought "Motherland".

I've just had a bit of a listen to some of "The House Carpenter's
Daughter" and its good too.

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More mainstream but in a similar orbit, Beth Orton? Not sure if she's done
much recently though.

Have heard some Beth Orton, but not been able to listen to anything
other than the stuff I've heard on the radio.

....ah, when I get my i-pod ;-)

Peter Clinch said:

SteveO said:

(Yes, I confess to being non-practical wehn it comes to music)

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I'm non-practical in as much as I can't play anything bar the
kazoo,

I've just read your post wherein you're wearing sandles and using a
brolly when the boot-clad n00bs of the Uni club drudge along
soaked.... now I've got this image I can't shake... Pete Clinch aka
the Pied Piper!

<doh!>

I'll get me coat.

SteveO said:

I've just read your post wherein you're wearing sandles and using a
brolly when the boot-clad n00bs of the Uni club drudge along
soaked.... now I've got this image I can't shake... Pete Clinch aka
the Pied Piper!

The kandid kazooer? ;-)

I think the kazoo would more have them running the other way than
following me, somehow...

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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<SteveO> wrote:

I can't believe nobody has yet jibed you for being a *country* fan. You're
on a slippery slope to folk, a pint of mild at The Oak, and a Big Beard, you
know?

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Have heard some Beth Orton, but not been able to listen to
anything other than the stuff I've heard on the radio.

Worth a listen, some cracking lyrics ("his fingers like fuses/eyes like
cinammon"😉, but lacking the clarity of Ms. Merchant I feel.

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...ah, when I get my i-pod ;-)

Maybe that would reinstate my interest in listening to music. There are
about 400 years of stuff that I like, but I just seem to have stopped. That
bloody Green Day album that is *always* in the car was the last thing that I
bought, and that must be about a year old now. Certainly feels like it.

ObWalking: anyone take their iPod into the hills?

*goes off to fondle CD collection*

Martin Carpenter said:

<SteveO> wrote:

I can't believe nobody has yet jibed you for being a *country* fan.

8-}

Eeek!

Martin, you evil person!!

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You're on a slippery slope to folk, a pint of mild at The Oak, and a Big
Beard, you know?

8-} 8-} 8-} 8-} 8-} Nooo!!!

Well, I've got the trekking poles already doncha know, so _how_ do you
know I am not he already, but in disguise? Mind you, I don't tuck my
trousers into my socks so that's a bit of a giveaway.

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...ah, when I get my i-pod ;-)

Maybe that would reinstate my interest in listening to music. There are
about 400 years of stuff that I like, but I just seem to have stopped. That
bloody Green Day album that is *always* in the car was the last thing that I
bought, and that must be about a year old now. Certainly feels like it.

Just bought a 100000000Maniacs CD on eBay... I am my own worst enemy
;-)

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ObWalking: anyone take their iPod into the hills?

I'm waiting <cough> for the day when the camera storage add-on doofah
is available at non-extortionate prices. Come to think of it, I'm
waiting for the same with the iPod ;-)

If I had an ipod, would I take it out walking? Don't know really. I
listen to music a _lot_, everywhere, music, radio, cd, whatever. But
the idea of doing the ipod thing when out walking, or climbing for
that matter just seems to be something that I feel uneasy about. No
idea why, and I certainly don't have any opinions about other people
doing it. Strange, in an introspective way ;-)

Yeah, I'd be interested to hear (fnarr) if folk take an iPod out with
them?

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*goes off to fondle CD collection*

Ooh, err!

I don't do that with mine much these days... the dust I'd kick up
would choke me to death 'cos all of the stuff I listen to now is on a
hard-drive... if only I could figure out how to like my hard-drive up
to my amp, &c.

Oooh, Oooh, Oooh.... just come on the radio; Corinne Bailey Rae <--
watch this space (was thinking about her yesterday, but couldn't
remember her name). serendipity, huh?

SteveO said:

if only I could figure out how to like my hard-drive up
to my amp, &c.

Sound card line out with a stereo mini-jack to dual RCA connector into a
free (non Phono) socket pair on the back of the amp out to do it.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Peter Clinch said:

SteveO said:

if only I could figure out how to like my hard-drive up
to my amp, &c.

Sound card line out with a stereo mini-jack to dual RCA connector into a
free (non Phono) socket pair on the back of the amp out to do it.

Easy as that? Thought it would be a bit of a nightmare ('lectonics is
not a forte of mine, can you tell?? ;-)

SteveO said:

Yeah, I'd be interested to hear (fnarr) if folk take an iPod out with
them?

I don't have one yet, probably will get one someday, but I'm not sure about
taking it out with me. Could be good for those boring moments on camping
trips, but I never get bored on camping trips! Thing is, I love the sounds
of nature, so I wouldn't want to blank those out with music. Tried it with
a radio in the past but didn't like it.

Good to keep your ears open to hear what's going on outside the tent anyway,
e.g. wild animals, irate farmers, overflowing rivers etc...

Paul