OT: Bummed

Unfortunately, the "floored it" when she started across the road and
then swerved into the opposite side to get her, yes it was deliberate.
I was hysterical and ready to murder them myself but my kind neighbor
took over disposing of her and finishing what those jerks did. Yes, I
am a wiccan and believe in karma, but a few black candles won't hurt
speeding things up. he he he

Gweebles

Lass Chance_2 said:

My God. That's....horrible. saw my dog get hit when I was about 7 and
it was really traumatic. I hope your daughter is OK. I hope the SOB
who hit the cat pays in mucho suffering of his own.

Sorry for the loss of your kitty, too. I know how it feels and it
sucks.

Two years ago I let my dogs out for their morning run and half an hour
later they al came back....sick, puking, then went into convulsions and
died. My yard looked like Jonestown---four dogs, all dying horribly of
poisoning by some cracker jerk-off neighbor.

You accept no blame whatsoever for what happened to your dogs?

You allow four dogs to run unrestrained around your neighborhood and
yet you are not responsible for what happens to them?

If I was one of your neighbors I wouldn't have poisoned them, I like
dogs, but I would have made damned sure that you lost them. You are an
incredibly thoughtless and shallow person. You are almost too self
centered to be believable. Four dogs running uncontrolled!

What did you think that your neighbors thought about your inconsiderate
attitude to both your dogs and to their property, children, pets etc?

Obviously you found out what one of them thought, but didn't it ever
occur to you that you didn't have the right to impose your animals on
other people? That no matter how well behaved you might think your dogs
are, they could be be dangerous to other people, to small children and
animals?

What would have happened if your dogs came across the OP's cat while
they were running loose? Who would you blame for what happened then? I
imagine that it wouldn't be you or your dogs.

Quoted message said:

That people like this get to walk around breathing air....really gets
me. I like to think the Karma of this act has created, say, stomach
cancer in the guy. I hope something similar for the murderer of your
kitty.

The cat wasn't "murdered" and the person responsible for its death was
the owner, a person with as much disregard for the welfare of animals and
concern for neighbors as you apparently have. The car was on a road,
where cars have a right to be. The cat was on a road, where it shouldn't
have been allowed.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. We have always had indoor cats. But...
many people have outdoor cats. My indoor cat escaped about 2months ago and
got eaten by a coyote. We miss her, a lot.

The fact remains that regardless as to why the cat was outside, the driver
should have stopped, something. Jerk.

"Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

gweebles said:

Some jerk just deliberately ran over my pregnant cat right in front of
my 6 year old daughter and then took off when I went after him. Poor
kitty, wasn't even a clean kill. Why are some people such jerks?

Gweebles

I'm so sorry about your cat, but what was it doing outside?

Marsha/Ohio

gweebles said:

Some jerk just deliberately ran over my pregnant cat right in front of
my 6 year old daughter and then took off when I went after him. Poor
kitty, wasn't even a clean kill. Why are some people such jerks?

Gweebles

That is just sick!

Yes, you'd have to be sick to let your child's cat run around in the street.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"tominbkk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

gweebles said:

Some jerk just deliberately ran over my pregnant cat right in front of
my 6 year old daughter and then took off when I went after him. Poor
kitty, wasn't even a clean kill. Why are some people such jerks?

Gweebles

That is just sick!

Luna..I live WAY out in the country. Houses are separated by acres of
land. There are no leash laws here. You can let your animals run, if you
dont mind them being either possibly hit by a car or poisoned or shot.
Since it IS the country, MOST people are pretty tolerant of a dog
running thru their property, but you cant count on it.

Mine NO LONGER leave the fenced-in part of my land, which is kind of a
shame, as they used to like swinning in the creek.
But, they dont, anymore. I learned. My dogs wernt dangerous, but my
neighbors are. These are the same crackers who dont neuter their own
animals and let them run, then take litters of puppies to the dumps and
let them go, where they starve or learn to kill chickens, forming packs
of truly dangerous dogs.

Trust me when I say, my well-fed, friendly dogs were never the problem.
The local crackers are. I dont need to keep them safe from my dogs---I
need to keep my dogs safe from them.
--A hard lesson, but I learned it.

LassChance

Re: OT: Bummed

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2005, 4:11pm (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (Luna)
Let the dogs out? Just let them out? On their own? It sounds like you
don't mean in a fenced-in yard, but just to roam the neighborhood. I
would never poison an animal, but if I saw a pack of dogs just loose and
running around, I'd definitely call animal control and have them picked
up.
--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

There ya go, LOL. Nothing wrong with speeding up the karma, a bit.

Lass

"Yes, I am a wiccan and believe in karma, but a few black candles won't
hurt speeding things up. he he he
Gweebles"

Take a pill, Meakin.

What I thought was, since I live acres from any neighbors, and since
their dogs run thru my land all the time, that there was an acceptance
of my dogs on their land. I was even naive enough to think that if
anybody had a problem, they'd talk to me about it, not put out a bowl of
poisoned food. I was wrong.

Of course Im responsible. It just about killed me. My mistake led to the
death of my dogs.

The next dogs I brought home from the dump, I built a fence for.

Relax, already. Let God do the judging.

LassChance

Quoted message said:

"What did you think that your neighbors
thought about your inconsiderate attitude
to both your dogs and to their property, >children, pets etc?"

gweebles said:

TC

I am willing to bet you are the kind who likes to deliberately hurt
animals. Tell me, how many have you run over just to jerk off about it
later?

Gweebles

I love animals, and grew up with many dogs, cats and birds.

I experienced having a cat run into the path of my car on a highway
with my children in the car. I had a choice of trying to evade the
animal and possibly ditching the car or just hang on and hope the cat
makes it across, I hit the friggin' thing. That was incredibly
traumatic for me and my family.

Whose fault was it? It wasn't mine, I was just cruising down the
highway minding my own business. It was the 100% the fault of the owner
of the animal that let it roam.

Control your animals or risk their lives. How you control your animals
is your concern and your responsibility, not mine. My animals are kept
under control at ALL times, because I do not want them harmed,I do not
want them tp harm other animals or people and I do not want to impose
my animals on other people thru my neglectful behavior.

You are resposible for anything that happens to your animal.

TC

In message <[email hidden]>,
gweebles <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Some jerk just deliberately ran over my pregnant cat right in front of
my 6 year old daughter and then took off when I went after him. Poor
kitty, wasn't even a clean kill. Why are some people such jerks?

I am very sorry :-(

Are you Serena, perchance?
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

The thing of it is, TC, gweebles lives in the country, not the city. So
do I. In the city, I kept my cat inside most of the time, although he
had a kitty door into the fenced back yard.

But in the country, even tho there are cars, there's a lot fewer
cars....and the cat owner has to weigh the potential hazards versus the
expanded happiness of the cat getting to run, climb trees, catch mice
and moles...and yes, take their chances with cars.

Ive made the same decision gweebles did---to let the cat have a real
cat's life and take my chances with the cars. So far, my cat is fine.
She could get hi today, but she could also live 10 years without getting
hit. On the othe hand, if I keep her closed up inside, she wont get hit
by a car, but her quality of life will be greatly reduced on a daily
basis.

Parents have to face the same realities with their kids. If you send
them to public school, they might get shot, kidnapped, molested by a
teacher, even. Or, you can home school them and not let them out of the
house, ever, unsupervised. This keeps them alive....but depreives them
of the normal socialization of being with other kids as well as teaching
them the world is a hostile, unsafe place. Either choice is a trade-off
and holds potential negative consequences.

Without a crystal ball, either choice may be the wrong one.

The point is, the SOB who hit gweebles cat did so on purpose. Not an
accident. People like that exist in the world, just as the child
molester or kidnapper does.

If country folks have to keep their cats inside because some psycho's
are out there, just like many parents are home schooling their kids
because some psychos are out there....OR choose to stand on the side of
"normalcy" and trust their kids (or cats) wont get mangled by a nutjob
and more damage might be done by restricting their movement than by
trusting in human decency, the outcme will prove them right or wrong.

Gweebles made the choice to trust the world and give the cat freedom.
In this case, the results were bad. Not being psychic, lacking that
crystal ball, hardly makes her to blame for the nutjob's behavior. It
wasnt an accident---it was a purposeful cat killing.

When a child is snatched from the school yard, would you be so hasty to
jump on the "It's YOUR fault" bandwagon? You sent yer kid to
school....so, it's your fault a psycho snatched your kid?

It's the psycho's 'fault".

I know how awful gweebles feels. But I know that being governed by fear
and losing all trust in humanity isnt the answer. If it were, everybody
would be keeping their kids at home, because any one of them MIGHT not
make it home today, from school.

I KNOW my kitty could be killed. Or, she may not ever get hit. But if I
keep her inside the rest of her natural life to prevent what MIGHT
happen, I'll be the one to "blame" for the unhappiness it will cause
her. IF she gets hit, I'll be to blame for that, too.

Somebody knocked on my door yesterday to use the phone...lost, I COULD
have not let him in, refused to let him use my phone, because he COULD
have been a psycho, no doubt about it. He could have killed me, no
denying the possibility.

But if we let our fear of what MIGHT happen, if we never stop to help a
stranger, never take a chance, how much humanity is lost trying to
prevent what MIGHT happen and probably wont?

If my cat could talk and I asked her straight up whether she'd prefer to
live indoors and be safe or take her chances being a REAL kitty in the
country, I think she'd pick taking her chances. I KNOW I would.

It IS dangerous 'out there", yet every day, each of us leaves the house,
gets in a car, deals with strangers, all opportunities to die....but
also to live. Something MIGHT kill us...but probaly wont. Some might
make the choice to stay at home, never go out, even to shop, isolating
altogether from the world to be 'safe". To 'save" their life, they
voluntarily give up their life. Wise choice?

Attacking gweebles for the loss of her cat adds insult to injury. [censored]
happens. Or, it doesnt happen. But there's no way to know, in advance.

But that nutjobs live in the world isnt gweeble's 'fault".

Lighten up on the blame. Hindsight is always 20/20. If she'd KNOWN the
cat killer was out that day, do you think she'd have let the cat out? Is
she "wrong" for not being psychic?

Do you have kids, TC? Are they in school today?
Can you guarantee they will get home alive, unmolested? today and every
day in the future? IF they get hurt....will it be YOUR fault for
letting them out of your home and sight?

LassChance