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  1. Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.
    --
    Peace, Om

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  2. "Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Do not switch back and forth! I've found the very best way to adjust to new
    glasses is to keep the old ones on until you go to bed and then put the new
    ones on first thing in the morning. I have very little trouble adjusting to
    new glasses that way, even these line-less trifocals.

    Ms P

  3. Omelet said:


    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.

    Welcome to the old farts club. I am on my third pair, second prescription,
    of graduated lens bifocals. The first pair came from Lenscrafters and I was
    never really happy with them. I had trouble reading with them and when I
    took them back to complain they explained that I wasn't using them right,
    that I had to hold things I was reading down lower and look at them through
    the lower part of the lens. The next pair were from a local optician, cost
    a bit more but are a heck of a lot easier. The problem with graduated lens
    bifocals is that you have to be pointed directly at what you are looking at
    because there is distortion to the periphery. It is not a problem with
    most things, but it makes it difficult to see to the far left and right,
    which can be a problem when driving. You really need to slow down and crank
    your head around to have a good look.

    The first few days you may notice strange things happening when you drive
    because you may notice the distortion of things going past you. That goes
    away quickly. I have a spare pair of glasses for distance that I like to
    wear when driving, especially on my motorcycle. They give me better
    peripheral vision. Besides, if they get scratched and pitted from dust and
    grit they are cheaper to replace. I don't like the bifocals for reading in
    bed so I got a pair of reading glasses for that.

    I had realy good vision up until my mid 40s. Then I had to get reading
    glasses. By the time I hit 50 my distance vision started fading and I had
    to go with the bifocals.

  4. Omelet said:

    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat

    Great. Shouldn't be a problem. Lined bi-focals are ancient technology.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    Nonsense. Don't give them a free ride. If your glasses are properly
    prescribed, fitted, and ground, there should be little or no
    adjustment period. If there is, take them back. I have hex-focals
    .....six distinct focal lengths with no lines. They worked perfectly
    from the get-go.

    nb

  5. Omelet said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.


    Does this mean you'll have the so-called "progressive" lenses? I've
    had mine almost a year now. Despite being warned about the adjustment
    period, I'd say it took me all of 8 minutes to get used to them.

    If the optometrist does his job properly, I highly doubt you will feel
    the need to switch back and forth. Obviously, YMMV...

    ...fred

  6. Omelet said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.

    If they're lineless they're not bifocals... you have Varilux lenses
    (or some other brand of progressive lenses). Just wear your new
    glasses. Put your old ones away for an emergency in case you lose or
    break your new ones... do not wear them except in an emergency. Once
    you get used to progressive lenses you'll never go back... shouldn't
    take more than 3-4 days. I never take mine off except to wash,
    otherwise I wear them 24/7. I sleep in them.

    http://www.framesdirect.com/Press-Progressive_Lenses-lb.html

    Sheldon

  7. notbob said:

    Nonsense. Don't give them a free ride. If your glasses are properly
    prescribed, fitted, and ground, there should be little or no
    adjustment period. If there is, take them back. I have hex-focals
    ....six distinct focal lengths with no lines. They worked perfectly
    from the get-go.

    I think it would be pretty easy to get hex focals "right".

    -sw

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ms P said:

    "Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Do not switch back and forth! I've found the very best way to adjust to new
    glasses is to keep the old ones on until you go to bed and then put the new
    ones on first thing in the morning. I have very little trouble adjusting to
    new glasses that way, even these line-less trifocals.

    Ms P

    I'm not at trifocals... yet. ;-) All in good time.

    So just jump right in in the morning.

    Got it!
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Smith said:

    Welcome to the old farts club.

    Thanks. ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    I am on my third pair, second prescription,
    of graduated lens bifocals. The first pair came from Lenscrafters and I was
    never really happy with them. I had trouble reading with them and when I
    took them back to complain they explained that I wasn't using them right,
    that I had to hold things I was reading down lower and look at them through
    the lower part of the lens. The next pair were from a local optician, cost
    a bit more but are a heck of a lot easier. The problem with graduated lens
    bifocals is that you have to be pointed directly at what you are looking at
    because there is distortion to the periphery. It is not a problem with
    most things, but it makes it difficult to see to the far left and right,
    which can be a problem when driving. You really need to slow down and crank
    your head around to have a good look.

    The first few days you may notice strange things happening when you drive
    because you may notice the distortion of things going past you. That goes
    away quickly. I have a spare pair of glasses for distance that I like to
    wear when driving, especially on my motorcycle. They give me better
    peripheral vision. Besides, if they get scratched and pitted from dust and
    grit they are cheaper to replace. I don't like the bifocals for reading in
    bed so I got a pair of reading glasses for that.

    I had realy good vision up until my mid 40s. Then I had to get reading
    glasses. By the time I hit 50 my distance vision started fading and I had
    to go with the bifocals.

    I'm 45.
    I've not yet looked at reading glasses.
    Might be about time.

    Since I had to shell out in full for these, I went to Wal-mart. The
    local Op-shop in our local store has a most excellent reputation.

    She even helped with my concern about the nose piece. I hate nose tabs
    so she showed me the silicon bridge replacement they had on hand for it.
    I've had a horrible time with nose pads lately. Zits tend to develop
    under them and are painful and unsightly.

    Looks good so far...

    Thanks for the input. :-)
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    notbob said:
    Omelet said:

    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat

    Great. Shouldn't be a problem. Lined bi-focals are ancient technology.

    The doc disagreed, but the Op-tech disagreed with him. <G> And agrees
    with you. She prefers the line-less.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    Nonsense. Don't give them a free ride. If your glasses are properly
    prescribed, fitted, and ground, there should be little or no
    adjustment period. If there is, take them back. I have hex-focals
    ....six distinct focal lengths with no lines. They worked perfectly
    from the get-go.

    nb

    Cool.

    I'll know in a week to 10 days. Heaven knows I'm paying enough!
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    kuvasz guy said:
    Omelet said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.


    Does this mean you'll have the so-called "progressive" lenses? I've
    had mine almost a year now. Despite being warned about the adjustment
    period, I'd say it took me all of 8 minutes to get used to them.

    Yes. She called them "Medium progressives".

    Quoted message said:


    If the optometrist does his job properly, I highly doubt you will feel
    the need to switch back and forth. Obviously, YMMV...

    ..fred

    Thanks. ;-)
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:
    Omelet said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.

    If they're lineless they're not bifocals... you have Varilux lenses
    (or some other brand of progressive lenses). Just wear your new
    glasses. Put your old ones away for an emergency in case you lose or
    break your new ones... do not wear them except in an emergency. Once
    you get used to progressive lenses you'll never go back... shouldn't
    take more than 3-4 days. I never take mine off except to wash,
    otherwise I wear them 24/7. I sleep in them.

    http://www.framesdirect.com/Press-Progressive_Lenses-lb.html

    Sheldon

    Thanks.

    I look forward to not having to move my glasses around on my nose and
    ears (tilting and moving them forward) depending on what I am doing.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:
    Omelet said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    Quoted message said:

    If they're lineless they're not bifocals... you have Varilux lenses
    (or some other brand of progressive lenses).

    There are lineless bifocals, but as Sheldon says, most get progressives
    now.

    Be sure to tell the doc if they don't work. They take some adjustment.
    I'm not even interested in trying. That's just me.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Omelet said:

    I'm not at trifocals... yet. ;-) All in good time.

    So just jump right in in the morning.

    If you are in progressives (and I have no clue about "medium
    progressives"😉, then you are already past trifocals.

  15. "Ms P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Do not switch back and forth! I've found the very best way to adjust to
    new glasses is to keep the old ones on until you go to bed and then put
    the new ones on first thing in the morning. I have very little trouble
    adjusting to new glasses that way, even these line-less trifocals.

    Ms P

    Dear Om,
    I've worn bi-focals, then tri-focals since 1975. One thing I've found is
    that if I couldn't adjust to the prescription, then the prescription was
    off. Other people may adjust, but I could not. If I had trouble, I kept
    taking them back until they got it right. And they always worked.

    I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
    it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
    prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
    me. Give me a break!
    He would not re-do them.

    It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
    dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
    Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag that is
    hanging from one's nose.

    Dee Dee

  16. Dee Dee said:

    "Ms P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    I'm getting old. :-(

    Should I keep my old pair for driving for now just for safety? The Dr.
    says it's a bad idea to switch back and forth.
    --
    Peace, Om


    Do not switch back and forth! I've found the very best way to adjust to
    new glasses is to keep the old ones on until you go to bed and then put
    the new ones on first thing in the morning. I have very little trouble
    adjusting to new glasses that way, even these line-less trifocals.

    Ms P

    Dear Om,
    I've worn bi-focals, then tri-focals since 1975. One thing I've found is
    that if I couldn't adjust to the prescription, then the prescription was
    off. Other people may adjust, but I could not. If I had trouble, I kept
    taking them back until they got it right. And they always worked.

    I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
    it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
    prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
    me. Give me a break!
    He would not re-do them.

    It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
    dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
    Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag that is
    hanging from one's nose.

    Dee Dee

    Check out zennioptical.com. They are cheap enough that you can play
    around with your prescription a little. My favorite pair is .25
    diopters weaker than my prescription says it should be. I can see at a
    distance or read normal print with single-vision lenses at that strength
    and just take them off to read fine print.

    Bifocals, phooey. I wasted $200 on a pair a couple of years ago and
    never could adjust to them. I see better with this $8 pair of glasses
    (and better than that with my stronger $15 pair, but I have to take them
    off to read)

    Bob

  17. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Omelet said:

    I'm not at trifocals... yet. ;-) All in good time.

    So just jump right in in the morning.

    If you are in progressives (and I have no clue about "medium
    progressives"😉, then you are already past trifocals.

    The Dr. (MD not just an Op) said they were bifocals.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dee Dee said:

    Dear Om,
    I've worn bi-focals, then tri-focals since 1975. One thing I've found is
    that if I couldn't adjust to the prescription, then the prescription was
    off. Other people may adjust, but I could not. If I had trouble, I kept
    taking them back until they got it right. And they always worked.

    Cool.

    The Op tech said if I had problems, she'd be happy to work with me, as
    did the Dr.

    Quoted message said:


    I've had opticians (one recently as 1995) argue with me for 45-minutes that
    it was my fault, they wouldn't make any money if they re-did everyone's
    prescription who couldn't adjust, perhaps I had something else wrong with
    me. Give me a break!
    He would not re-do them.

    I'd not go back.

    Quoted message said:


    It is not all that glum as I probably sounded-- just saying, if you are
    dizzy from your glasses, think about it. Glasses are just wonderful!
    Expensive, yes! A non-wearer doesn't usually realize the price tag that is
    hanging from one's nose.

    Dee Dee

    Thanks ;-)
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  19. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:
    Omelet said:

    Got my first prescription for Bifocals this morning.
    I've chosen to try the line-less right off the bat rather than
    "graduating" to them.

    I'm told by both the Doctor and the Op tech at the store that I may have
    trouble adjusting to them for a week or two, Dizziness, etc.

    I'm open to advice, suggestions and hints. I should have them in a week
    or so.....

    Expensive suckers! Oh well.

    Quoted message said:

    If they're lineless they're not bifocals... you have Varilux lenses
    (or some other brand of progressive lenses).

    There are lineless bifocals, but as Sheldon says, most get progressives
    now.

    Be sure to tell the doc if they don't work. They take some adjustment.
    I'm not even interested in trying. That's just me.

    Thanks.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    zxcvbob said:

    Check out zennioptical.com. They are cheap enough that you can play
    around with your prescription a little. My favorite pair is .25
    diopters weaker than my prescription says it should be. I can see at a
    distance or read normal print with single-vision lenses at that strength
    and just take them off to read fine print.

    Bifocals, phooey. I wasted $200 on a pair a couple of years ago and
    never could adjust to them. I see better with this $8 pair of glasses
    (and better than that with my stronger $15 pair, but I have to take them
    off to read)

    Bob

    Just spent $414.00.

    Time will tell.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

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