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  1. Does anyone have any ideas/opinions/baseless ramblings on the relative
    accuracy of the height data in Anquet compared with the contours on
    the maps? I know that in very bumpy areas the height data tends to
    miss sharp ridges and summits etc because of the resolution of the
    grid (50m IIRC), but in my relatively flat part of the country
    (northern Hampshire) there are some interesting discrepancies - for
    example flattish hills reading well over 100 metres, even as much as
    115 or 120 metres over a wide area when the OS contours only admit to
    90 metres (or 95 on the 1:25000).

    In most places the heights agree very well, but I have found plenty of
    places where this sort of thing happens - usually with Anquet heights
    being "too high". Many of these places are forested, which makes me
    wonder whether the heights were collected by radar measurement which
    picks up the trees rather than the ground, although some are bare
    grassland. Also, most forested areas show no corresponding jump in
    height compared with bare ground.

    Does anyone in fact know how the Anquet data is derived? It definitely
    doesn't include building heights - no 100m + readings in London, for
    example! - but I wonder if tree cover can throw it out somehow?

  2. On 12 Nov 2004 11:10:07 -0800, [email hidden] (Rob Kingston)

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have any ideas/opinions/baseless ramblings on the relative
    accuracy of the height data in Anquet compared with the contours on
    the maps? I know that in very bumpy areas the height data tends to
    miss sharp ridges and summits etc because of the resolution of the
    grid (50m IIRC), but in my relatively flat part of the country
    (northern Hampshire) there are some interesting discrepancies - for
    example flattish hills reading well over 100 metres, even as much as
    115 or 120 metres over a wide area when the OS contours only admit to
    90 metres (or 95 on the 1:25000).

    In most places the heights agree very well, but I have found plenty of
    places where this sort of thing happens - usually with Anquet heights
    being "too high". Many of these places are forested, which makes me
    wonder whether the heights were collected by radar measurement which
    picks up the trees rather than the ground, although some are bare
    grassland. Also, most forested areas show no corresponding jump in
    height compared with bare ground.

    Does anyone in fact know how the Anquet data is derived? It definitely
    doesn't include building heights - no 100m + readings in London, for
    example! - but I wonder if tree cover can throw it out somehow?

    Run the cursor over a lake and see the height fluctuate!
    --
    R
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  3. "Rob Kingston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have any ideas/opinions/baseless ramblings on the relative
    accuracy of the height data in Anquet compared with the contours on
    the maps? I know that in very bumpy areas the height data tends to
    miss sharp ridges and summits etc because of the resolution of the
    grid (50m IIRC), but in my relatively flat part of the country
    (northern Hampshire) there are some interesting discrepancies - for
    example flattish hills reading well over 100 metres, even as much as
    115 or 120 metres over a wide area when the OS contours only admit to
    90 metres (or 95 on the 1:25000).

    In most places the heights agree very well, but I have found plenty of
    places where this sort of thing happens - usually with Anquet heights
    being "too high". Many of these places are forested, which makes me
    wonder whether the heights were collected by radar measurement which
    picks up the trees rather than the ground, although some are bare
    grassland. Also, most forested areas show no corresponding jump in
    height compared with bare ground.

    Does anyone in fact know how the Anquet data is derived? It definitely
    doesn't include building heights - no 100m + readings in London, for
    example! - but I wonder if tree cover can throw it out somehow?

    Set a route to follow a stream downhill and see how much uphill the stream
    does on it's journey down

  4. Rooney said:

    Run the cursor over a lake and see the height fluctuate!

    Or not, as is usually the case. You must have picked the only reservoir
    in Britain to have been built after the height data was collected!

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
    http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

  5. bob watkinson said:

    Set a route to follow a stream downhill and see how much uphill the
    stream does on it's journey down

    Then look at the 3D view to see how the stream doesn't follow the line
    of least resistance (due to the 50m resolution).

    Try following the coast path from Langland to Caswell and watch the path
    suddenly plummet to sea level and back up again as you round Whiteshell
    Point.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
    http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

  6. Paul Saunders said:
    Rooney said:

    Run the cursor over a lake and see the height fluctuate!

    Or not, as is usually the case. You must have picked the only reservoir
    in Britain to have been built after the height data was collected!

    Paul

    No - I'm looking at natural tarns in the Lake District. The
    fluctuation isn't large but it is there.
    --
    R
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    n
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    y

  7. Rooney said:

    No - I'm looking at natural tarns in the Lake District. The
    fluctuation isn't large but it is there.

    Strange, most of the lakes I've looked at have identical heights all
    over the surface.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
    http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

  8. In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Rooney said:

    Run the cursor over a lake and see the height fluctuate!

    Or not, as is usually the case. You must have picked the only reservoir
    in Britain to have been built after the height data was collected!

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
    http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk


    Carsington reservoir in Derbyshire is another one.
    --
    Chris Morriss

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