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  1. Fruits & Vegetables (although I presume both are "commercial" in the
    sense that all growers sell them to make money).

    Although we attend local Farmers Markets throughout a good part of the
    year (this IS California) & there are numerous organic vendors (in
    Berkeley, frequently exclusively), we rarely purchase from them because,
    frankly, their prices are ususally double. Not to mention that I'm not
    convinced (& the excellent state of my health has never shown me
    otherwise) that organically-grown produce has a greater "nutritional"
    value.

    As far as taste, neither me nor my husband has found that organic
    "tastes" better (we're democratic about trying free samples), which
    probably would be the only reason we would pay extra.

    How does everybody else view this subject personally (or even
    scientifically if you must)?

  2. "Kathryn Friesen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Fruits & Vegetables (although I presume both are "commercial" in the
    sense that all growers sell them to make money).

    Although we attend local Farmers Markets throughout a good part of the
    year (this IS California) & there are numerous organic vendors (in
    Berkeley, frequently exclusively), we rarely purchase from them because,
    frankly, their prices are ususally double. Not to mention that I'm not
    convinced (& the excellent state of my health has never shown me
    otherwise) that organically-grown produce has a greater "nutritional"
    value.

    As far as taste, neither me nor my husband has found that organic
    "tastes" better (we're democratic about trying free samples), which
    probably would be the only reason we would pay extra.

    How does everybody else view this subject personally (or even
    scientifically if you must)?

    I grow a lot of my own vegetables, especially tomatoes. We harvest and can
    enough of them, or make tomato sauce, for a year, and stil have pelenty for
    fresh eating.

    I prefer my own to store bought. I have yet to develop a preference for
    organic vs. regular, as I see little, if any, difference.

  3. I find organic carrots are more tasty than normal carrots - the juice tends
    to be thicker.
    Not worth paying 4x the price for them though.
    Anth

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    "Kathryn Friesen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Fruits & Vegetables (although I presume both are "commercial" in the
    sense that all growers sell them to make money).

    Although we attend local Farmers Markets throughout a good part of the
    year (this IS California) & there are numerous organic vendors (in
    Berkeley, frequently exclusively), we rarely purchase from them because,
    frankly, their prices are ususally double. Not to mention that I'm not
    convinced (& the excellent state of my health has never shown me
    otherwise) that organically-grown produce has a greater "nutritional"
    value.

    As far as taste, neither me nor my husband has found that organic
    "tastes" better (we're democratic about trying free samples), which
    probably would be the only reason we would pay extra.

    How does everybody else view this subject personally (or even
    scientifically if you must)?

    I grow a lot of my own vegetables, especially tomatoes. We harvest and can
    enough of them, or make tomato sauce, for a year, and stil have pelenty


    for

    Quoted message said:

    fresh eating.

    I prefer my own to store bought. I have yet to develop a preference for
    organic vs. regular, as I see little, if any, difference.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kathryn Friesen said:

    Fruits & Vegetables (although I presume both are "commercial" in the
    sense that all growers sell them to make money).

    Although we attend local Farmers Markets throughout a good part of the
    year (this IS California) & there are numerous organic vendors (in
    Berkeley, frequently exclusively), we rarely purchase from them because,
    frankly, their prices are ususally double. Not to mention that I'm not
    convinced (& the excellent state of my health has never shown me
    otherwise) that organically-grown produce has a greater "nutritional"
    value.

    The nutritional value of produce is heavily influenced by the variety
    of item being grown. All apples are not created equal, you might say.

    The main thing you get with "organic" is:

    1) a higher price
    2) frequently, lower amounts of pesticides.

    Many people claim better taste, but it's not usually based on a
    blinded test.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  5. Anth: I would think the "taste" etc. of those carrots has more to do
    with the seed selection, than whether grown "organically" or otherwise.
    If you look at a Burpee's seed catalog, you'll find at least a page of
    varieties to plant.

    While the supermarket variety tends to be probably of one kind (for
    most people, including me, "carrots is carrots"😉, at the larger farmers
    markets even the non-organic "small growers" offer several different
    varities for selection.

    Now "peaches IS NOT peaches"!!

  6. People swear by this "no additives in the soil" stuff and they they drink
    Reverse Osmosis water figuring a plant membrane can filter out all the
    impurities. Does this make sense?

    "Kathryn Friesen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Fruits & Vegetables (although I presume both are "commercial" in the
    sense that all growers sell them to make money).

    Although we attend local Farmers Markets throughout a good part of the
    year (this IS California) & there are numerous organic vendors (in
    Berkeley, frequently exclusively), we rarely purchase from them because,
    frankly, their prices are ususally double. Not to mention that I'm not
    convinced (& the excellent state of my health has never shown me
    otherwise) that organically-grown produce has a greater "nutritional"
    value.

    As far as taste, neither me nor my husband has found that organic
    "tastes" better (we're democratic about trying free samples), which
    probably would be the only reason we would pay extra.

    How does everybody else view this subject personally (or even
    scientifically if you must)?

  7. I suggest you read:

    The Healing Power of Minerals
    (Special Nutrients and Trace Elements)

    by Paul Bergner

    Marvin L. Zinn
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    Using Virtual Access
    Windows 2000 build 2600

  8. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kathryn Friesen said:

    Fruits & Vegetables (although I presume both are "commercial" in the
    sense that all growers sell them to make money).

    Although we attend local Farmers Markets throughout a good part of the
    year (this IS California) & there are numerous organic vendors (in
    Berkeley, frequently exclusively), we rarely purchase from them because,
    frankly, their prices are ususally double. Not to mention that I'm not
    convinced (& the excellent state of my health has never shown me
    otherwise) that organically-grown produce has a greater "nutritional"
    value.

    The nutritional value of produce is heavily influenced by the variety
    of item being grown. All apples are not created equal, you might say.

    The main thing you get with "organic" is:

    1) a higher price

    Usually a much higher price.

    Quoted message said:

    2) frequently, lower amounts of pesticides.

    If you do not get your RDA of pesticides, just add a bit of Bin Han Ginseng!

    Quoted message said:

    Many people claim better taste, but it's not usually based on a
    blinded test.

    Organics also tend to be uglier.

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