Optical illusions, I suppose ...

Sandy said:

For those deprived of Paris-Nice, just a couple of observations, though I
guess I must have been under an influence, dreaming, or am just plain lying.

Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride 1,5km
until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have done better on
clinchers.

Floyd Landis did the unthinkable ! During the last 30 km of the race (they
didn't show a lot of him earlier), he rode uphill, on false flats, even on
the flats, with hand in hooks and out of the saddle. He must have a fashion
mag contract that pays even better than Phonak.

A couple of days ago, Laurent (Agritubel) did the same for around 40 of the
130 km escape. Such phony posing. No wonder he didn't win the stage. And
that's why Landis only came in second today.

Got to get that TV adjusted.....
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Sandy

Don't know how much time was devoted to Landis during the broadcast you
watched, but I see 5 still shots on cyclingnews.com and 2 more on
velonews.com, and all the shots show him either on the brake hoods of
the flats of the bars. Just how much time did they show him in the
hooks? (I'm assuming you're using that term where I might use the term
'drops'😉.

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Sandy said:

For those deprived of Paris-Nice, just a couple of observations,
though I guess I must have been under an influence, dreaming, or am
just plain lying.

Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride
1,5km until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have
done better on clinchers.

Floyd Landis did the unthinkable ! During the last 30 km of the
race (they didn't show a lot of him earlier), he rode uphill, on
false flats, even on the flats, with hand in hooks and out of the
saddle. He must have a fashion mag contract that pays even better
than Phonak.

A couple of days ago, Laurent (Agritubel) did the same for around 40
of the 130 km escape. Such phony posing. No wonder he didn't win
the stage. And that's why Landis only came in second today.

Got to get that TV adjusted.....
--
Sandy

Don't know how much time was devoted to Landis during the broadcast
you watched, but I see 5 still shots on cyclingnews.com and 2 more on
velonews.com, and all the shots show him either on the brake hoods of
the flats of the bars. Just how much time did they show him in the
hooks? (I'm assuming you're using that term where I might use the term
'drops'😉.

Lots of time. While I won't guess what he was doing when they didn't show
him (yes, I was glued to the tv), he led a two man break that way, he
accelerated that way, he came through half the last two kilometers that way.
He also was on the hoods, and he also rested his forearms on the bar at the
center. Laurent was even more dedicated to this position.

And if you don't think I saw correctly (I must has hallucinated, according
to a big-wig in this forum), there are regular correspondents here who may
have watched it from an even closer vantage point.

Actually, it could be said, I think fairly, that Floyd was in the hooks for
70% or more of the last 30 km, though not all out of the saddle. Really. I
haven't figured out the tv freeze-frame deal on the adsl feed to the
computer, but I tried. Lots more stages to come.
--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

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Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride 1,5km
until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have done better on
clinchers.

He wouldn't necessarily have done any worse. I've seen folks flat
front clinchers and ride them down twisty decents and along flats at
over 20 mph for far longer than 1.5 km....

A front flat on a clincher doesn't necessarily mean "instant yard
sale"...myths be damned!

Tom_A said:

Quoted message said:

Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride 1,5km
until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have done better on
clinchers.

He wouldn't necessarily have done any worse. I've seen folks flat
front clinchers and ride them down twisty decents and along flats at
over 20 mph for far longer than 1.5 km....

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A front flat on a clincher doesn't necessarily mean "instant yard
sale"...myths be damned!

It's harder to ride a flat clincher.

JT

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Prove it.

Tom_A said:

Prove it.

Try it.

JT

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Prove it.

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Try it.

OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally. Does that change
your mind?

I didn't think so.

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OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally.

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It's just not true

Prove it.

Round and round we go, where it stops....

Tom_A said:

OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally.

It's just not true.

JT

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Tom_A said:

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OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally.

Quoted message said:

It's just not true

Prove it.

Round and round we go, where it stops....

It all depends on whether you prefer for there to be rubber between
your rim and the road, or whether you prefer to have the tire squirm
around and expose your rim to the road surface directly.

Not sure 'bout you... but I know which I'd prefer.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Sandy said:

For those deprived of Paris-Nice

Sandy! I didn't realize it, but you must get awesome bike racing
coverage over there! Would you mind tivoing, ripping to xvid, and
sending it over to us less fortunate souls on this side of the pond?
(actually, I'm half way across the other pond).

Just so we can properly assess what you saw or did not see of course...

Tom_A said:

Prove it.

Wonder what the 'A' stands for.

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Tom_A said:

Prove it.

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Wonder what the 'A' stands for.

Atheist, of course. This is a religious argument, right?...at least
from one side, that is.

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Sandy said:

For those deprived of Paris-Nice

Sandy! I didn't realize it, but you must get awesome bike racing
coverage over there! Would you mind tivoing, ripping to xvid, and
sending it over to us less fortunate souls on this side of the pond?
(actually, I'm half way across the other pond).

Just so we can properly assess what you saw or did not see of
course...

I have tried to learn that in the program, but I'm not there yet.
It's on Eurosport and France 4 (numérique), the latter is what I get, and
free.
I'll work on it ..........
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Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR