Opionions on Vredestein Fortezza SE

Bengt-Olaf Schneider said:

Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does anybody
have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures
etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.

My friend swears by the (Dutch-made?) Fortezzas, but swears
*AT* the cheaper ones! I would /assume/ (always iffy) that
these are the lesser-quality versions.

Bill "do a little research, then decide?" S.

Bengt-Olaf Schneider said:

Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does anybody
have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures
etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.

Bengt-Olaf.

The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite
tires of all time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and
they corner well. Average about 1 flat per tire (which
means, per 2500 miles or so).

I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight,
and flat/rim protection.

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Bengt-Olaf Schneider said:

Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does
anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.

Bengt-Olaf.

The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite
tires of all time. Handling is very good, weight is low,
and they corner well. Average about 1 flat per tire (which
means, per 2500 miles or so).

I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight,
and flat/rim protection.

My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the last
few down to the cords (they are white) without a flat. That
said I am now likely cursed to have a flat every 50k.

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Bengt-Olaf Schneider said:

Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does
anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.

My friend swears by the (Dutch-made?) Fortezzas, but
swears *AT* the

cheaper

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ones! I would /assume/ (always iffy) that these are the
lesser-quality versions.

Bill "do a little research, then decide?" S.

Thanks, Bill. Any idea how to figure out where the tire was
manufactured ?

Thanks, Bengt-Olaf.

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Bengt-Olaf Schneider said:

Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does
anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your
comments.

Bengt-Olaf.

The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite
tires of all time. Handling is very good, weight is low,
and they corner well. Average about 1 flat per tire
(which means, per 2500 miles or so).

I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort,
weight, and flat/rim protection.

My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the last
few down to the cords (they are white) without a flat.
That said I am now likely cursed to have a flat every 50k.

Thanks for the comments. You mention the "black ones". The
ones on sale are blue. I assume that we are still talking
about the same tire. No ?

Bengt-Olaf.

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On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider"
<[email hidden]> said:

> Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does
> anybody have experience with them. Durability,
> comfort, failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for
> your comments.
>
> Bengt-Olaf.

The black ones (list is about $40) are among my
favorite tires of all time. Handling is very good,
weight is low, and they corner well. Average about 1
flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles or so).

I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort,
weight, and flat/rim protection.

My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the
last few down to the cords (they are white) without a
flat. That said I am now likely cursed to have a flat
every 50k.

Thanks for the comments. You mention the "black ones". The
ones on sale are blue. I assume that we are still talking
about the same tire. No ?

Bengt-Olaf.

Mine are all black and they are the only ones I have seen so
I really couldn't say. Check their web site perhaps.

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Bengt-Olaf Schneider said:

Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does
anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.

My friend swears by the (Dutch-made?) Fortezzas, but
swears *AT* the cheaper ones! I would /assume/ (always
iffy) that these are the lesser-quality versions.

Bill "do a little research, then decide?" S.

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Thanks, Bill. Any idea how to figure out where the tire
was manufactured ?

Read the small print on the packaging (or website if mail
order); or contact the manufacturer.

If they're on sale for $22.97 each or whatever, you can
always give 'em a try and not risk too much.

Tires are subjective anyway. I bought some Hutchinson Carbon
Comps on sale at Performance, and hated them (felt squirmy
on climbs to me, sucking energy); others seem to love 'em.

Bill "YMMV (literally)" S.

I bought the 23mm blue ones recently and put about 200
miles on them so far. They replaced the original Bontragers
on my Trek 2300 and I haven't noticed much of a difference
in the ride.

Are they great? Time will tell. But for the price they seem
OK so far.

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On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider"
<[email hidden]> said:

> Performance is running a sale on these tires. Does
> anybody have experience with them. Durability,
> comfort, failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for
> your comments.
>
> Bengt-Olaf.

The black ones (list is about $40) are among my
favorite tires of all time. Handling is very good,
weight is low, and they corner well. Average about 1
flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles or so).

I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort,
weight, and flat/rim protection.

My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the
last few down to the cords (they are white) without a
flat. That said I am now likely cursed to have a flat
every 50k.

Thanks for the comments. You mention the "black ones". The
ones on sale are blue. I assume that we are still talking
about the

same

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tire. No ?

Bengt-Olaf.