Oooooh! I do like 'em! Panaracers

Westie said:

Finally got the UST Panaracer Fire XC Pro's on the bike
today after a long wait. I DO like 'em. Nice.

Are you going to be using them as a winter tyre?

I'm finding that mine are starting to slip a little in the
mud. Have been a fantastic XC summer tyre though, great for
people who ride on varied surfaces.

Disco Stu said:

Westie said:

Finally got the UST Panaracer Fire XC Pro's on the bike
today after a long wait. I DO like 'em. Nice.

Are you going to be using them as a winter tyre?

I'm finding that mine are starting to slip a little in the
mud. Have been a fantastic XC summer tyre though, great
for people who ride on varied surfaces.

This time of the year it'll be impossible to avoid the mud
for me. So far so good though. In particular they're
handling the wet, squishy mud that you get under grass after
days of rain better than other tyres I've tried.
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Finally got the UST Panaracer Fire XC Pro's on the bike
today after a long wait. I DO like 'em. Nice.
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Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

I went to these from Continental Explorer Pros, and
expected to have poorer cornering on them as they were more
square cut. How wrong I was!! Turns out that they're far
better in all aspects than the conti's, I'll be using them
from now on, replacing with similar....

AndyC

AndyC said:

I went to these from Continental Explorer Pros, and
expected to have poorer cornering on them as they were
more square cut. How wrong I was!! Turns out that they're
far better in all aspects than the conti's, I'll be using
them from now on, replacing with similar....

Oh man I *hated* Explorer Pros! (Not UST version, though.)

Bill "squirm and pinch (and not in a fun way)" S.

Westie said:

Quoted message said:

Are you going to be using them as a winter tyre?

I'm finding that mine are starting to slip a little in
the mud. Have been a fantastic XC summer tyre though,
great for people who ride on varied surfaces.

This time of the year it'll be impossible to avoid the
mud for me.

I'm with Disco Stu, I've found the Fire XC Pros really suck
in mud - they seem to clog up far too easily. Apart from
that, they're a cracking tyre.

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bomba said:

Westie said:

Quoted message said:

Are you going to be using them as a winter tyre?

I'm finding that mine are starting to slip a little in
the mud. Have been a fantastic XC summer tyre though,
great for people who ride on varied surfaces.

This time of the year it'll be impossible to avoid the
mud for me.

I'm with Disco Stu, I've found the Fire XC Pros really
suck in mud - they seem to clog up far too easily. Apart
from that, they're a cracking tyre.

I didn't get them specifically for mud. In fact, I hope
to be avoiding as much as I can with these tyres. I'm
moving house in a couple of weeks and I'll be doing a lot
more hardpack clay, pineforest and light gravel with a
lot less mud.

But..... when that clay in the area does turn to mud it
becomes that sticky, yellow, gluey stuff that sticks to
everything. I think that those side knobs on the XC Pro's
will scoop it up and hold it.
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AndyC said:

I went to these from Continental Explorer Pros, and
expected to have poorer cornering on them as they were
more square cut. How wrong I was!! Turns out that
they're far better in all aspects than the conti's,
I'll be using them from now on, replacing with
similar....

Oh man I *hated* Explorer Pros! (Not UST version, though.)

Bill "squirm and pinch (and not in a fun way)" S.

Yeah, well, I look back on the two pinch flats in 10 yards
day and wonder why I stuck them for so long... Mind you, it
was going down here: mtbcomprador.combikeracingOpen ↗
/secciones/fotos/potes2002/images/potes2002_018.jpg or (tiny
URL) tinyurl.com2jclhOpen ↗ Not my image though!

I have to say, anyone who can get to Northern Spain has to
do this. I get twitches even now... And if you look closely
you can see almost see the village at the top (about
1700Metres up), with a descent to around 150Metres at the
bottom... Still it wasn't too bad for us, as we descended
through cloud at the very top... starting above and dropping
through a thin band before seeing the full monty, and by
then it was a long walk back to the top ;o)

Anyway, you know those days you're glad to be alive,
finishing this descent was all about that :o)

AndyC

AndyC said:

Yeah, well, I look back on the two pinch flats in 10
yards day and wonder why I stuck them for so long... Mind
you, it was going down here: mtbcomprador.com-mtbcomprador.com-Open ↗
/bikeracing/secciones/fotos/potes2002/images/potes2002_0-
18.jpg or (tiny URL) tinyurl.com2jclhOpen ↗ Not my
image though!

That looks awesome. Did you go with a tour company, or just
make your own way?

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AndyC said:

Yeah, well, I look back on the two pinch flats in 10
yards day and

wonder

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why I stuck them for so long... Mind you, it was going
down here:

mtbcomprador.compoteOpen ↗
s2002/images/potes2002_018.jpg

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or (tiny URL) tinyurl.com2jclhOpen ↗ Not my image
though!

That looks awesome. Did you go with a tour company, or
just make your own way?

Two of us, a load of dodgy maps (and one good one) and the
patience to cycle up the side of the mountains to go down
them. There are plenty of tours that do go around the area,
but in talking to a guide he did point out that they'd never
take a group down there, and having done it I can see why.
It's not so much dangerous, as treacherous. I.e. although if
you take it steady you'll be OK, one slip and it was over
the edge and free fall down through the clouds...
Marvellous. Twas amusing though, as there were a few walkers
going up, and they all said we'd never make it in all
seriousness, which when we were near the top wasn't really
what we wanted to hear!!!

The best of it was that this was the end of 5 hours cross
country and climbing... starting with a truck lift up to
1100m to a 800m cable car ride, taking us to around 1900m.
Then descent to a town some 800m lower before a climb back
to the village lost at the top. I have to say it was one of
the most amazing rides in my life, bike or otherwise ;o)

Another ride we did we ended up climbing for several hours
in blazing heat, real tough stuff like carrying the bike
for Kms etc, anyway, all hail mountain refuge huts and
their stock of food (and yeah we left cash to pay for
it!). Without that we'd have been skirting on the edge of
serious fatigue which would have made the descents all the
more serious.

Also a classic was cycling up a concrete path into the
mountains in the rain and seeing the lightening crossing at
eye height further down the valley...

I think a guided tour would be fun, but there wouldn't be
the sense of achievement of doing it by ourselves. I suspect
we pushed on much harder because of it too.

Anyway anyone interested in going there (Potes in
Cantabria/Northern Spain) give me a shout, I'll happily
recount my experiences in boring detail, complete with cheap
accommodation, cheap flights etc...

AndyC

acollett at RM dot Com (work it out).

Westie said:

Disco Stu said:

Westie said:

Finally got the UST Panaracer Fire XC Pro's on the bike
today after a long wait. I DO like 'em. Nice.

Are you going to be using them as a winter tyre?

I'm finding that mine are starting to slip a little in the
mud. Have been a fantastic XC summer tyre though, great
for people who ride on varied surfaces.

This time of the year it'll be impossible to avoid the mud
for me. So far so good though. In particular they're
handling the wet, squishy mud that you get under grass
after days of rain better than other tyres I've tried.

They are nice til the knobs tear off. I'm counting 8
knobs ripped off on a tire that doesn't have very many
miles on it.

Greg

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Destroy your safe and happy lives Before it is too late The
battles we fought were long and hard Just not to be consumed
by rock'n'roll

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They are nice til the knobs tear off. I'm counting 8
knobs ripped off on a tire that doesn't have very many
miles on it.

Greg

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Destroy your safe and happy lives Before it is too late
The battles we fought were long and hard Just not to be
consumed by rock'n'roll

Were your Pana's made in Taiwan or Japan? Do you lock up
your wheels when braking?

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Quoted message said:

They are nice til the knobs tear off. I'm counting 8
knobs ripped off on a tire that doesn't have very many
miles on it.

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Were your Pana's made in Taiwan or Japan? Do you lock up
your wheels when braking?

Plus, I wonder if the UST's are made from a different
compound rubber.

Bill "more broken knobs with rear Mythos lately" S.

D T W .../\... said:

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They are nice til the knobs tear off. I'm counting 8
knobs ripped off on a tire that doesn't have very many
miles on it.

Greg

--
Destroy your safe and happy lives Before it is too late
The battles we fought were long and hard Just not to be
consumed by rock'n'roll

Were your Pana's made in Taiwan or Japan?

Japan.

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Do you lock up your wheels when braking?

Rarely if ever.

Oh, your Outlook Express is broken. Most news clients are
smart enough to not repost sigs.

Greg

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battles we fought were long and hard Just not to be consumed
by rock'n'roll

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They are nice til the knobs tear off. I'm counting 8
knobs ripped off on a tire that doesn't have very many
miles on it.

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Were your Pana's made in Taiwan or Japan?

Japan.

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Do you lock up your wheels when braking?

Rarely if ever.

This is why you don't see them around here much. They are
not good desert tires at all. Long live Moto 2.4s!

JD