Ooo, weird

MSA said:

Well, after using M$ Outlook Express as my Newsgroup reader for the past 5 years I have taken the
plunge and tried something different.

I'm now using Gravity after following a very interesting thread on NG readers. Must admit that
it's really taking some getting used to but I am determined to stick with it and give it a
proper trial.

It's starting to grow on me, and I must admit that never in my life have I come across a piece of
software that is so configurable!

Err, hope you can reads this!

Mark (MSA)

I took a look at 40tude today, didn't like it though as I couldn't get it to show the thread in a
tree. BTW how does one post using the free Berlin news server ?

In message <[email hidden]>, M Series <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

BTW how does one post using the free Berlin news server ?

1. Register with them, this is free. It is handled by a 'Real human' so is not an instant process.

2. once you have your username and password, set up your newsreader to access the server, assign the
relevant groups to server etc.

3. away you go.

I small note, pay attention to the rule of usage, in particular that on the requirement for valid
email addresses.

I would expect your current From address to bounce - I certainly know of one person who tried using
[127.0.0.1] as the domain whose messages were rejected by the server.

Personally I think the service is great, and very much in the spirit of what the Net is about.

See

<http://news.individual.net/>

For details.
--
Chris French, Leeds

MSA said:

Well, after using M$ Outlook Express as my Newsgroup reader for the past 5 years I have taken the
plunge and tried something different.

I'm now using Gravity after following a very interesting thread on NG readers. Must admit that
it's really taking some getting used to but I am determined to stick with it and give it a
proper trial.

It's starting to grow on me, and I must admit that never in my life have I come across a piece of
software that is so configurable!

Err, hope you can reads this!

It's good, supergravity is better and once you get fed up with it's foibles, Mozilla is the way to
go, with the added bonus of doing mail too.

--
Dnc

chris French said:

In message <[email hidden]>, M Series <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

BTW how does one post using the free Berlin news server ?

1. Register with them, this is free. It is handled by a 'Real human' so is not an instant process.

2. once you have your username and password, set up your newsreader to access the server, assign
the relevant groups to server etc.

3. away you go.

I small note, pay attention to the rule of usage, in particular that on the requirement for valid
email addresses.

I would expect your current From address to bounce - I certainly know of one person who tried
using [127.0.0.1] as the domain whose messages were rejected by the server.

Personally I think the service is great, and very much in the spirit of what the Net is about.

See

<http://news.individual.net/>

For details.

Thanks for the info Chris, I presume they do not pass on the email addresses ?

In message <[email hidden]>, M Series <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

chris French said:

In message <[email hidden]>, M Series <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

BTW how does one post using the free Berlin news server ?

1. Register with them, this is free. It is handled by a 'Real human' so is not an instant
process.

2. once you have your username and password, set up your newsreader to access the server, assign
the relevant groups to server etc.

3. away you go.

I small note, pay attention to the rule of usage, in particular that on the requirement for valid
email addresses.

I would expect your current From address to bounce - I certainly know of one person who tried
using [127.0.0.1] as the domain whose messages were rejected by the server.

Personally I think the service is great, and very much in the spirit of what the Net is about.

See

<http://news.individual.net/>

For details.

Thanks for the info Chris, I presume they do not pass on the email addresses ?

No.

Thinks..... Which address do you mean. You register by e-mail, but that does not have to an address
you use in your postings.

Personally I don't like using munged etc. addresses, I find separate from and reply to addresses
works for me. But the simplest answer is just to setup an account with a free webmail provider and
let the junk go there.. No one says you have to actually read any emails
--
Chris French, Leeds

Quoted message said:

I presume they do not pass on the email addresses

If thats ever a worry, set up a sacrificial address somewhere, which you can dump if it ever gets
known to the spammers. Personally, I don't understand the requirement - if I'm contributing to a
newsgroup conversation, I don't need (or want) my email address out there.

Regards,

Pete.

In message <[email hidden]>, M Series <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I small note, pay attention to the rule of usage, in particular that on the requirement for valid
email addresses.

I would expect your current From address to bounce - I certainly know of one person who tried
using [127.0.0.1] as the domain whose messages were rejected by the server.

<http://news.individual.net/>

Quoted message said:

Thanks for the info Chris, I presume they do not pass on the email addresses ?

I would be confident that cis.dfe do not pass on From addresses but it is those addresses which tend
to be harvested from usenet by spammers.

One answer is to use one address as Sender and From and set a separate Reply-To address on your
domain, (Reply-To addresses are harvested much less often). If you are unable to do this then set
up, say, a Hotmail account specially for use as your From address.

--
dave @ stejonda

Peter Connolly said:

Quoted message said:

I presume they do not pass on the email addresses

If thats ever a worry, set up a sacrificial address somewhere, which you can dump if it ever gets
known to the spammers.

Quoted message said:

Personally, I don't understand the requirement - if I'm contributing to a newsgroup conversation,
I don't need (or want) my email address out there.

It is a requirement of RFC 1036 that the 'From' header _must_ contain the email address of the
person who wrote the post. Admittedly RFC 1036 was written in more older and innocent days before
the great unwashed had access to Usenet, but it has never been ammended or obsoleted and is still
the ruling standard. I have always, for the past eighteen years, used my real email address when
posting to Usenet. Up until this year a few simple filters kept the volume of UCE under control.
This year things did get worse for a while until I eventually got [censored] and set up adaptive
bayesian filtering, since when the amount of UCE I've seen has dropped below one a day.

Of course spam is still a problem, because it eats bandwidth, and protocols both for discussion
systems and for email which prevent the propagation of spam would be a good thing; but in the
meantime bayesian filtering is all you need to keep your inbox free of UCE.

<URL: spamassassin.orgindex.htmlOpen ↗ > (recommended) <URL:
freshmeat.netsearchOpen ↗ >

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"MSA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Well, after using M$ Outlook Express as my Newsgroup reader for the past 5 years I have taken the
plunge and tried something different.

I'm now using Gravity after following a very interesting thread on NG readers. Must admit that
it's really taking some getting used to but I am determined to stick with it and give it a
proper trial.

It's starting to grow on me, and I must admit that never in my life have I come across a piece of
software that is so configurable!

Err, hope you can reads this!

Mark (MSA)

Funny you should bring that up. I'm downloading Mozilla thunderbird right now ooooh strange 🙂

Stan Cox

Stan Cox wrote: <snip>

Quoted message said:

Funny you should bring that up. I'm downloading Mozilla thunderbird right now ooooh strange 🙂

Stan Cox

Now using Mozilla Thunderbird. Good riddance to outlook express.

Stan Cox

Stan Cox said:

Now using Mozilla Thunderbird. Good riddance to outlook express.

Stan Cox

I've been using it for about a week for all mail and news reading. Very impressed.

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