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Quoted message said:in cycling strikes me the same way as did the Pentagon's declaration
that
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:the Koran was "mishandled."
Why does everyone get their panties in a twist when we flush a Koran down
the crapper? How many US flags have other nations burnt? Bibles are not
even
Quoted message said:allowed in most Muslim countries, presumably destroyed if found. Should I
go
Quoted message said:out and start a protest that gets people killed because of this? Why not
see
Quoted message said:if for what it is, Muslim clerics looking for a catalyst to protest
against
Quoted message said:the US.
Everybody makes a big stink about the Koran and the reality of the
inhumanity and torture going on there is trivialized.
http://www.thomhartmann.com/Galloway_Interview.html
[Thom Hartmann] OK. I'm wondering, what is your opinion on the legality of
Guantanamo Bay and what do you think of the construction of a death chamber
there, which was reported by the BBC yesterday?
[George Galloway] Well, it's an utterly illegal process which is being
followed. People are being taken, in some cases from third countries. One of
the British citizens, for example, was taken from the Gambia. Others have
been taken from Pakistan. Others still from, from Afghanistan. They're taken
by force, drugs forcibly injected into them, hooded, chained, and taken to a
cage in the tropics where by all accounts they're being kept in conditions
that you wouldn't keep a dog in in your country or mine. And if you did,
you'd be, you'd be had up for cruelty by the authorities.
And then there's very clear evidence of systematic torture. There's the
desecration of the Koran which may or may not have happened, depending on
which edition of Newsweek you are prepared to believe. This is a big scar on
the face of the United States. And it seems to me that too few citizens of
the United States have fastened on to the fact that the protestations by
your president and your government of being interested in human rights and
democracy and freedom are quite negated by the very existence of Guantanamo
Bay.
But of course, that's not the end of it. Bagram Air Base is exactly the same
kind of place. Abu Ghraib prison, well we perhaps, on a family show,
shouldn't probe too deeply into the disgusting obscenities that were going
on there. And, it turns out, that where the United States itself is not
prepared to physically torture people, it merely subcontracts out the task;
sending people to the likes of Uzbekistan and Egypt and other prison states
where less squeamish governments will torture people for the United States
and give the U.S. the testimony they get as a result. Which, of course, it
goes without saying, is almost never of any use because anyone will say
anything under torture.
