Online Munro Completion Map

"Stephen Watson" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The map works fine in Opera, except the name labels don't appear when the
mouse is hovered over the red squares.

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Steve

Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

"Name Labels" I am refering here to the text that appears when the mouse is
hovered over an image, all the blue and red dots are infact images and all
have their hill name attributed to their "alt" tag

Does Opera normally show these mouse over text things?

In the new manuscript <[email hidden]>, Stuart penned
the following script...

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Does Opera normally show these mouse over text things?

No, that's an IE abuse of the system. Alt tags where created to be a
invisible element for those browsers that don't have graphics enabled.

The best solution would probably be to have a JS hover event over the
images to display the tag, the other solution is to use a CSS event to
change them.

Or use Flash.

I like the idea, and if you can get the JS rollover to work then it's a
great graphical display of the locations. A couple of suggestions for
the map is to have major towns/locations to give an idea of area and/or
do borders to refer to the tick list.

Hope your knee gets better soon.
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Scottish dreams:
www.CelticShadows.co.uk

In a recent message <[email hidden]>, Stuart
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I would love to know if it works on your machine, and any improvements
or sugestions that you might have

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It all works as it should here, using Win2000 + IE6. I'm a red-socks and
bobble-hat man in the home counties myself, but it's always good to see
people producing and sharing handy little items like this.

Regards,
Nick.
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Nick Hopton and Anne Hopton
Caversham, Reading, England
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"Stuart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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A dodgy knee has had me spending too much time in front of the computer. The
result is this interactive wee map where you can enter your ticklist and
view the munros as coloured dots...........I would love to know if it works
on your machine, and any improvements or sugestions that you might have
http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros

stuart

Sorry to be picky Stuart, but you have Sgorr Dhearg & Sgorr Dhonuill
(Glencoe) the wrong way around. I only noticed because Sgorr Dhearg is
my only Munro to date.

Nigel.

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"Nigel" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Sorry to be picky Stuart, but you have Sgorr Dhearg & Sgorr Dhonuill
(Glencoe) the wrong way around. I only noticed because Sgorr Dhearg is
my only Munro to date.

Nigel.

Oop's.......Thanks Nigel I wil sort that out tonight when I get home!.....I
am sure their will be plenty of other such mistakes.

The traverse of Beinn a Bheither is an absolute classic giving superb views
up Loch Linnhe and into Glencoe, It is also a great place to view the massif
of Bidean nan Bian.

Oh yes. http://www.p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk/bb/bb.htm
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

Stuart said:

"Name Labels" I am refering here to the text that appears when the mouse is
hovered over an image, all the blue and red dots are infact images and all
have their hill name attributed to their "alt" tag

Does Opera normally show these mouse over text things?

Someone may have already replied to this effect, but I'm using Google
Groups which seems to refresh once a day...

The HTML spec, apparently, recommends the title tag over the alt tag
for this kind of thing. IE, Netscape and Mozilla will display
annotations as tooltips if they are in the title tag. Probably Opera
as well, though I haven't tried it. Firefox (and poss. Mozilla)
doesn't display all of the tag, however, though it probably should,
and probably will one day.

Colin

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"Nigel" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Sorry to be picky Stuart, but you have Sgorr Dhearg & Sgorr Dhonuill
(Glencoe) the wrong way around. I only noticed because Sgorr Dhearg is
my only Munro to date.

Nigel.

Oop's.......Thanks Nigel I wil sort that out tonight when I get

home!.....I

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am sure their will be plenty of other such mistakes.

The traverse of Beinn a Bheither is an absolute classic giving superb

views

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up Loch Linnhe and into Glencoe, It is also a great place to view the

massif

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of Bidean nan Bian.

Oh yes. http://www.p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk/bb/bb.htm
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

Some good pictures, liked the one looking up Loch Linnhe, also liked your
route, so many park at the bridge and go up and come down the same path, It
is well worth going up via West Laroch and traversing the whole mountain,
this route also take you along that magnificent curving arete that is nearly
worth the effort alone,

"Colin MacDonald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Stuart said:

"Name Labels" I am refering here to the text that appears when the mouse

is

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hovered over an image, all the blue and red dots are infact images and

all

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have their hill name attributed to their "alt" tag

Does Opera normally show these mouse over text things?

Someone may have already replied to this effect, but I'm using Google
Groups which seems to refresh once a day...

The HTML spec, apparently, recommends the title tag over the alt tag
for this kind of thing. IE, Netscape and Mozilla will display
annotations as tooltips if they are in the title tag. Probably Opera
as well, though I haven't tried it. Firefox (and poss. Mozilla)
doesn't display all of the tag, however, though it probably should,
and probably will one day.

Colin

Many thanks for this Colin, I have now replaced the Alt tag for a Title tag,
I hope this has cured the tooltip text problem experianced by non IE uses.
When should the Alt tag be used and what is its true purpose, also what does
it stand for!

"Stuart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Many thanks for this Colin, I have now replaced the Alt tag for a

Title tag,

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I hope this has cured the tooltip text problem experianced by non IE

uses.

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When should the Alt tag be used and what is its true purpose, also

what does

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it stand for!

I think that Alt is short for 'alternative text' and that if a browser
is set to not display images, or if it's a text-only browser, then the
Alt text is displayed in place of an image (and sometimes in the image's
rectangle while it is being loaded).

The Title tag, on the other hand, is intended, I believe, as additional
information on an object. While only images have an Alt tag, pretty
much any piece of HTML can have a Title tag. Including images. Not
sure why. The only practical use I've found for the Title tag is, as
you are aiming to do, to provide tooltips across multiple browsers.

Colin

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"Bernie Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Stuart said:

A dodgy knee has had me spending too much time in front of the computer.

The

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result is this interactive wee map where you can enter your ticklist and
view the munros as coloured dots...........I would love to know if it

works

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on your machine, and any improvements or sugestions that you might have
http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros

I'm using Mozilla 1.7 - The screen & the dots look fine & change colour
correctly, but the name label doesn't appear. Nice idea though.

Bernie

does mouse over text labels normally work ok in Mozilla?

Good question! Never having thought about, I had to try it out, but it
seems to work as you'd expect from ie6. Maybe not everywhere though..

Bernie

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The HTML spec, apparently, recommends the title tag over the alt tag
for this kind of thing. IE, Netscape and Mozilla will display
annotations as tooltips if they are in the title tag. Probably Opera
as well, though I haven't tried it. Firefox (and poss. Mozilla)
doesn't display all of the tag, however, though it probably should,
and probably will one day.

Colin

Cheers Colin, had wandered why alt labels hadn't shown up on Mozilla, title
works fine

Lee

http://leeperry.5gigs.com

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The HTML spec, apparently, recommends the title tag over the alt tag
for this kind of thing. IE, Netscape and Mozilla will display
annotations as tooltips if they are in the title tag. Probably Opera
as well, though I haven't tried it. Firefox (and poss. Mozilla)
doesn't display all of the tag, however, though it probably should,
and probably will one day.

Colin

Cheers Colin, had wandered why alt labels hadn't shown up on Mozilla,

title

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works fine

Lee

http://leeperry.5gigs.com

If you are on the Mozilla Browser Lee, could you take a look at my Map and
tell me if the hill names appear on the mouse hover event!....I have
replaced all the alt tags for title tags!

http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros

Good work Stuart! It didn't take me long to tick my successes - 1
(you can guess which).

With regard to lists other than the Munros, I've been thinking about
using some kind of (free) user registration on my website so that
people can log the mountains they have visited. At the moment, the
maps only show whether I have climbed the mountain or not. My site
only covers England and Wales, but does include Nuttalls, Marilyns,
Hewitts and Wainwrights.

For my maps, I use Javascript to position the mountains (triangles)
based on their grid references. This means I can also provide a
Search facility, so that only the mountains that satisfy the search
criteria are displayed. See
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/simon.edwardes/Search.htm

I'm working on a new version of the site which uses a MySql database
and PHP script, which should speed up the display of pages and search
results. Once this is in place, I'll be able to provide a
registration facility and enable other people to log their bagging
successes on the database, and display them on the map.

If Ireland is your bag, Simon Stewart provides similar facilities on
his website http://www.simonstewart.ie/

Cheers, Simon
website: The Mountains of England and Wales
http://www.simonedwardes.co.uk

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"Bernie Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote

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How about a Corbett-list or Wainwright-list ?

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Marilyns even?

Bernie

I primarily done the Munro map for my own use, and would be absolutly
delighted if others found it of interset and also used it! As for other
lists, Yes, if there is enough interest I would be very happy to do other
maps, however in the imeadiate future I will be trying to expand on my Munro
map,

Following up to KRO

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Its fine on my setup Stuart. I use something similar off the ISYS
Munro disk, it tells me where I've been avoiding.....I have yellow
for unwalked, red for walked - the reds are growing but plenty of
yellow left!

If anybody wants something to work independently of IE etc
(although it may be clunky on the more modern OSs) you can
download a "checkable" munro and other hills database here:-
"http://www.felwalk.co.uk/index.htm"
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

Following up to The Reids

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"http://www.felwalk.co.uk/index.htm"

or rather

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"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/index.htm"

--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

"Hugh Spicer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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works on my pc using ie...

"Stuart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A dodgy knee has had me spending too much time in front of the computer.

The

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result is this interactive wee map where you can enter your ticklist and
view the munros as coloured dots...........I would love to know if it

works

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on your machine, and any improvements or sugestions that you might have
http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros

stuart

Works great on the Mac using the Safari web browser. I've given it a
plug on my hillwalking blog

http://bagger.typepad.com/index/

Well done Stuart - nice piece of work

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works on my pc using ie...

"Stuart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A dodgy knee has had me spending too much time in front of the
computer.

The

Quoted message said:

result is this interactive wee map where you can enter your
ticklist and view the munros as coloured dots...........I would
love to know if it

works

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on your machine, and any improvements or sugestions that you might
have http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros

stuart

Works great on the Mac using the Safari web browser. I've given it a
plug on my hillwalking blog

http://bagger.typepad.com/index/

Well done Stuart - nice piece of work

I'll echo that. Well done.

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Adrian

Works fine on my PC running Windows XP and Opera.

Stuart said:

A dodgy knee has had me spending too much time in front of the computer. The
result is this interactive wee map where you can enter your ticklist and
view the munros as coloured dots...........I would love to know if it works
on your machine, and any improvements or sugestions that you might have
http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros

stuart

Tony Henley
Pembroke, South Wales

"Chris Malcolm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Stuart" <[email hidden]> writes:

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Works with my Mozilla, with Konqueror, but not with my Netscape!

I wonder if you need *both* the title and the alt tag?

I experimented with supplying both title and alt labels to an image,
and discovered that Mozilla and Konqueror pick up up the title, and
Netscape picks up the alt.

Nice work!
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Chris Malcolm [email hidden]

Unfortunately entering both "title" and "alt" in the image tag cause
Netscape7+ to show niether. I have therefor scripted the page to use only
the alt tag in netscape 4 (browsers that respond to "document.layers!"😉 and
use the title attribute in all other browsers.

I now think that the hill names will appear as tool tip text on the map page
in most browsers!

also the statistical section works in earlier versions of netscape!

http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros/