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Ongoing Saddle Height Adjustment and Results

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  1. It began with my purchase of a Yukon, as some of you may remember, my
    re-entry into bicycling as an adult. I posted an article about my new
    riding adventures at that time, and have since not updated it, pending
    my gaining more experience. I have read and re-read many articles on
    proper saddle height. During the last 4 months I have never had the
    feeling that things are "just right" so I have continued to make
    adjustments along the way, taking care to give the new adjustments
    time for me to evaluate before making further adjustments. This is
    what I have experienced:

    At first, everthing seemed low, handlebars and saddle. I added an
    adjustable stem, and then even an extension. The handlebars are way
    up over where they were at stock height. The saddle has crept up
    considerably too. I read once that if you raise the saddle and your
    bike suddenly feels as if you can go faster with less effort, then you
    have done a good thing. At this point I have raised the saddle higher
    than I ever imagined, and at this height it feels the best it ever
    has. I have experienced that feeling of new power, personally. Each
    leg is just short of being fully extended at bottom stroke and has
    been so for some time, but this last change was incremental. When I
    stand on one foot at bottom stroke, I barely come off the saddle. I
    cannot sit on the saddle when stopped unless the bike is leaned.

    I am also convinced that the frame I have is too small for me. Its a
    19" and was the largest I could find. I thought it would be big
    enough, but now I know its a bit too small. There is plenty of length
    left on the seat tube however, and as long as I don't mind it looking
    a bit strange (I do not) then it should be alright.

    There is thing that I didn't expect to contribute as much as it has to
    the overall equation, and that is the fact that when the saddle goes
    up, it also goes back due to the inclination of the seat post tube.
    The last adjustment did something interesting. Previously, I have
    felt too much weight being borne by my arms. I've adjusted the saddle
    itself on the post as far back as possible. It appears that even
    though my handlebars are still quite a bit lower than the saddle
    height, this last saddle height increase has pushed it back (finally)
    to the balance point I need. Immediately, I could feel the difference
    in my arms, even though the handlebars did not move. In a few days I
    will post more shots of what the bike looks like now. Its rather
    comical, but the rack and bag looks cool (I think).

    Once, I was fishing off the Sullivan Square Bridge in Charlestown MA
    when a man asked me what I was fishing for. My answer was of course
    "for fun." I ride for fun, which includes traveling to other
    communities near by to sample the local cuisine and just riding
    around, either slow or fast, long or short. I do not care about
    distance, cadence, speed, heart rate, or any other aspects except for
    comfort and safety. This last adjustment is going to keep me riding.
    I believe that no matter what the sub-goals are, the main goal is just
    to ride. That is what I am working on. I am losing weight and
    gaining fitness and not worrying about anything while doing it.

    I'd like to thank all the participants on the rec.bicycles ngs for
    their valuable time, expertise and advice. It has helped me
    tremendously.

    Michael J. Klein [email hidden]
    Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
    Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
    ---------------------------------------------

  2. Michael J. Klein said:

    Once, I was fishing off the Sullivan Square Bridge in Charlestown MA
    when a man asked me what I was fishing for. My answer was of course
    "for fun." I ride for fun, which includes traveling to other
    communities near by to sample the local cuisine and just riding
    around, either slow or fast, long or short. I do not care about
    distance, cadence, speed, heart rate, or any other aspects except for
    comfort and safety. This last adjustment is going to keep me riding.
    I believe that no matter what the sub-goals are, the main goal is just
    to ride. That is what I am working on. I am losing weight and
    gaining fitness and not worrying about anything while doing it.

    I wonder if those that ride for fun aspire to ride faster and harder
    (secretly), and those that ride for training secretly aspire to ride
    for fun! <g>

    That's kinda my goal, to just be able to hop on the bike and go
    anywhere up to 100 miles and just have fun, and not think about
    training or anything. I guess I'm training hard now and being focussed
    on details so that I can eventually drop all that from my
    concentration.

    IMO, as long as you don't lose sight of consistency (riding nearly
    every day), then fun is the way to go for the long run. But the bike
    has something for everyone from techies to freds.

    -B

  3. Michael J. Klein said:

    At first, everthing seemed low, handlebars and saddle. I added an
    adjustable stem, and then even an extension. The handlebars are way up
    over where they were at stock height.

    You might benefit, now, by lowering them a bit. It might improve your
    ability to ride longer distances, since your butt won't hurt so much.
    This, of course, depends on how high the bars really are.

    Quoted message said:

    I have experienced that feeling of new power, personally. Each leg is
    just short of being fully extended at bottom stroke and has been so for
    some time, but this last change was incremental. When I stand on one
    foot at bottom stroke, I barely come off the saddle. I cannot sit on
    the saddle when stopped unless the bike is leaned.

    All this seems right.

    Quoted message said:


    I am also convinced that the frame I have is too small for me. Its a
    19" and was the largest I could find. I thought it would be big enough,
    but now I know its a bit too small. There is plenty of length left on
    the seat tube however, and as long as I don't mind it looking a bit
    strange (I do not) then it should be alright.

    Compact geometry or mountain bike? If so, then I guess that would be OK.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember
    _`\(,_ | that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. -- LBJ
    (_)/ (_) |

  4. David L. Johnson said:
    Michael J. Klein said:

    At first, everthing seemed low, handlebars and saddle. I added an
    adjustable stem, and then even an extension. The handlebars are way up
    over where they were at stock height.

    You might benefit, now, by lowering them a bit. It might improve your
    ability to ride longer distances, since your butt won't hurt so much.
    This, of course, depends on how high the bars really are.

    The main discomfort is in the arms and wrists from bearing weight
    forward. The saddle seems quite comfortable really.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have experienced that feeling of new power, personally. Each leg is
    just short of being fully extended at bottom stroke and has been so for
    some time, but this last change was incremental. When I stand on one
    foot at bottom stroke, I barely come off the saddle. I cannot sit on
    the saddle when stopped unless the bike is leaned.

    All this seems right.

    Good.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am also convinced that the frame I have is too small for me. Its a
    19" and was the largest I could find. I thought it would be big enough,
    but now I know its a bit too small. There is plenty of length left on
    the seat tube however, and as long as I don't mind it looking a bit
    strange (I do not) then it should be alright.

    Compact geometry or mountain bike? If so, then I guess that would be OK.

    MTB. BB higher off the ground - everything else follows. Still, I've
    seen a smallish frame with the seat post going up to the heavens
    seemingly, lol. Not so unusual I think. Thanks for your comments.

    Michael J. Klein [email hidden]
    Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
    Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
    ---------------------------------------------

  5. Michael J. Klein <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    snip

    Quoted message said:


    There is thing that I didn't expect to contribute as much as it has to
    the overall equation, and that is the fact that when the saddle goes
    up, it also goes back due to the inclination of the seat post tube.
    The last adjustment did something interesting. Previously, I have
    felt too much weight being borne by my arms. I've adjusted the saddle
    itself on the post as far back as possible. It appears that even
    though my handlebars are still quite a bit lower than the saddle
    height, this last saddle height increase has pushed it back (finally)
    to the balance point I need. Immediately, I could feel the difference
    in my arms, even though the handlebars did not move. In a few days I
    will post more shots of what the bike looks like now. Its rather
    comical, but the rack and bag looks cool (I think).

    Once, I was fishing off the Sullivan Square Bridge in Charlestown MA
    when a man asked me what I was fishing for. My answer was of course
    "for fun." I ride for fun, which includes traveling to other
    communities near by to sample the local cuisine and just riding
    around, either slow or fast, long or short. I do not care about
    distance, cadence, speed, heart rate, or any other aspects except for
    comfort and safety. This last adjustment is going to keep me riding.
    I believe that no matter what the sub-goals are, the main goal is just
    to ride. That is what I am working on. I am losing weight and
    gaining fitness and not worrying about anything while doing it.


    You've discovered that many peoples seats are to far forward,
    overweighting their hands and shoulders. Here is an informative overview
    of a balanced position.
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/kops.html
    Bill Brannon

  6. Bill said:

    Michael J. Klein <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    snip


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    You've discovered that many peoples seats are to far forward,
    overweighting their hands and shoulders. Here is an informative overview
    of a balanced position.
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/kops.html
    Bill Brannon

    Which also explains my tendency to want to "stretch" occasionally, by
    pushing my rear off the back of the seat. Thanks Bill - good article
    to review.
    Michael J. Klein [email hidden]
    Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
    Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
    ---------------------------------------------

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