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  1. VEG DIET CUTS COLON CANCER RISK

    NEW YORK - Eating a meat-free, vegetarian diet may reduce
    the risk of colorectal cancer, new research suggests. After
    following more than 10,000 people for 17 years,
    investigators found that vegetarians were 15 percent less
    likely to develop colorectal cancer than meat-eaters.

    This study adds to the "increasing scientific evidence" that
    a diet rich in fruit, vegetables and fiber and low in meat--
    especially red and processed meat--can prevent colorectal
    cancer, study author Dr. Miguel Sanjoaquin of the University
    of Oxford, UK, told Reuters Health.

    However, Sanjoaquin cautioned that only a small number of
    study participants--95--developed colorectal cancer, making
    it impossible to determine if fewer vegetarians developed
    cancer simply due to chance. However, Sanjoaquin noted that
    a previous study featuring more cases of colorectal cancer
    confirmed these findings, and he added that it makes sense
    that eating vegetarian could cut cancer risk. The fat in red
    meat increases the excretion of substances called bile
    acids, he explained, which in turn produce other substances
    that encourage tumor growth.

    Furthermore, meat contains natural compounds and substances
    formed during processing and high-temperature cooking that
    can disrupt the normal balance of cell growth in the colon,
    potentially triggering the cancer, Sanjoaquin noted.
    Alternatively, substances in fruits and vegetables--staples
    of the vegetarian diet--"may inhibit these adverse
    effects," he added.

    Full story: www.nlm.nih.gov

  2. "Curt Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    VEG DIET CUTS COLON CANCER RISK

    NEW YORK - Eating a meat-free, vegetarian diet may reduce
    the risk of colorectal cancer, new research suggests.
    After following more than 10,000 people for 17 years,
    investigators found that vegetarians were 15 percent less
    likely to develop colorectal cancer than meat-eaters.

    This study adds to the "increasing scientific evidence"
    that a diet rich


    in

    Quoted message said:

    fruit, vegetables and fiber and low in meat--especially
    red and processed meat--can prevent colorectal cancer,
    study author Dr. Miguel Sanjoaquin of the University of
    Oxford, UK, told Reuters Health.

    However, Sanjoaquin cautioned that only a small number of
    study participants--95--developed colorectal cancer,
    making it impossible to determine if fewer vegetarians
    developed cancer simply due to chance. However, Sanjoaquin
    noted that a previous study featuring more cases of
    colorectal cancer confirmed these findings, and he added
    that it makes sense that eating vegetarian could cut
    cancer risk. The fat in red meat increases the excretion
    of substances called bile acids, he explained, which in
    turn produce other substances that encourage tumor growth.

    Furthermore, meat contains natural compounds and
    substances formed during processing and high-temperature
    cooking that can disrupt the normal balance of cell growth
    in the colon, potentially triggering the cancer,
    Sanjoaquin noted. Alternatively, substances in fruits and
    vegetables--staples of the vegetarian diet--"may inhibit
    these adverse effects," he added.

    Full story: www.nlm.nih.gov

    I don't find this particularly persuasive. The author
    himself says that the small incidence of colorectal cancer
    in the group means that any conclusions are suspect. If the
    results are typical, which may well be the case as this
    cancer accounts for 13% of all cancers diagnosed in the US,
    and even if the conclusions are valid, then a meat-eater in
    the group had about a 1% chance of getting it and a vegan
    about a 0.85% chance. But a vegan is likely to have a number
    of lifestyle differences with a meat eater, any of which
    might be part of the driving factor. Colo-rectal cancer is
    highly curable when diagnosed early, and deadly when not.
    Rather that fussing about diet people would do better to
    have regular colonoscopies.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Eating a meat-free, vegetarian diet may reduce the risk of
    colorectal cancer, new research suggests.

    No surprise to learn that vegans are perfect ass-holes.

  4. Curt Nelson said:

    Eating a meat-free, vegetarian diet may reduce the risk of
    colorectal cancer, new research suggests.

    Oh well, I guess I'll just be at risk for cancer.
    Tough [censored] ;-)

    --
    John Gaughan johngaughan.netjohngaughan.net
    [email hidden]

  5. "Curt Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    VEG DIET CUTS COLON CANCER RISK

    NEW YORK - Eating a meat-free, vegetarian diet may reduce
    the risk of colorectal cancer, new research suggests.
    After following more than 10,000 people for 17 years,
    investigators found that vegetarians were 15 percent less
    likely to develop colorectal cancer than meat-eaters.

    This study adds to the "increasing scientific evidence"
    that a diet rich


    in

    Quoted message said:

    fruit, vegetables and fiber and low in meat--especially
    red and processed meat--can prevent colorectal cancer,
    study author Dr. Miguel Sanjoaquin of the University of
    Oxford, UK, told Reuters Health.

    However, Sanjoaquin cautioned that only a small number of
    study participants--95--developed colorectal cancer,
    making it impossible to determine if fewer vegetarians
    developed cancer simply due to chance. However, Sanjoaquin
    noted that a previous study featuring more cases of
    colorectal cancer confirmed these findings, and he added
    that it makes sense that eating vegetarian could cut
    cancer risk. The fat in red meat increases the excretion
    of substances called bile acids, he explained, which in
    turn produce other substances that encourage tumor growth.

    Furthermore, meat contains natural compounds and
    substances formed during processing and high-temperature
    cooking that can disrupt the normal balance of cell growth
    in the colon, potentially triggering the cancer,
    Sanjoaquin noted. Alternatively, substances in fruits and
    vegetables--staples of the vegetarian diet--"may inhibit
    these adverse effects," he added.

    Full story: www.nlm.nih.gov

    So I won't live quite as long-fine. BUT I'll enjoy it more.
    Who wants to suffer their whole lives just to live a bit
    longer, eh?

  6. "Curt Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    VEG DIET CUTS COLON CANCER RISK

    But is this due to the lack of meat or the higher fibre and
    overall volume of a vegetarian diet? There is considerable
    evidence that lack of bulk in the diet is a cause, or at
    least a contributing factor, in many disorders of the bowel,
    not just the big C.

    David

  7. WardNA said:

    No surprise to learn that vegans are perfect ass-holes.

    LOL.

    ~john

    ps - lolololololol

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David Hare-Scott said:

    "Curt Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    VEG DIET CUTS COLON CANCER RISK

    But is this due to the lack of meat or the higher fibre
    and overall volume of a vegetarian diet? There is
    considerable evidence that lack of bulk in the diet is a
    cause, or at least a contributing factor, in many
    disorders of the bowel, not just the big C.

    David

    You know that you can prove anything that you want with
    statistics. ;-)

    I think you hit the nail on the head.

    You can have all the meat you want, just eat a lot of
    high fiber veggies with it. I personally prefer to eat
    that way anyway!

    K.

    --
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    they are all owned by cats! -- Asimov

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  9. <snip>

    As always with these type of post, the original poster,
    posts and flees. That leaves the rest of us (actually
    interested) posters with nothing to do but to comment within
    our "own" group.

    Humbug to these "cowards" that post and run; they won't
    actually defend their ideas there "right" without question.
    (Politically correct thought)

    I am posting my usual response to the "vegan" who started
    this thread. The last time I posted this, a gang of vegans
    wrote to Google asking to have me barred from posting
    further. I had to promise them I would not make offending
    posts. Those of you here, who have read the first post in
    the thread, please read mine, and see who's more "correct".

    A Book of Food by Morton P. Shand (NY : Knopf, 1928)

    Sentimental Vegetarianism (page 160)

    The Sentimental Vegetarians are the most numerous and
    illogical of the different sects of dietetic vegetarians,
    quasi-vegetarians, frutarians, nutarians and the raw
    vegetable nourishment stalwarts. If the pretensions of the
    sentimental vegetarians are to be taken seriously, not only
    must humanity forgo all animal foods, including milk and
    eggs, from ethical motives, but true to the essentially
    democratic principal of "sois mon frere, ou je te tu," every
    single race of mankind should be constrained -- by force of
    arms failing peaceful persuasion, since the offence is
    greater in the eating than in the killing -- to abstain from
    meat nourishment for all eternity.

    After making the world safe for vegetarianism, the next step
    would be the organization of armed, vegetarianized, humanity
    (or vegetarianized armed humanity - it does not matter
    which, but propagandists would declare there was a world of
    difference) to prevent non-carnivorous animals being
    devoured by carnivorous, and to put a stop to the outrage of
    carnivorous animals preying on each other.

  10. "Katra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    You know that you can prove anything that you want with
    statistics. ;-)

    Just about, anyway, particularly when you start talking
    about *one* medical study. For those interested in a good
    explanation of why this is true, I recommend:
    multiplesclerosissucks.commath.html -- actually,
    the whole site is worth reading.

    -j

  11. It's official. I've finally been terrorized on the Internet
    by a vegetarian.

    --

    Hasta, Curt Nelson

  12. "Curt Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    It's official. I've finally been terrorized on the
    Internet by a


    vegetarian.

    Sorry to respond to my own post, but I really do find it
    amusing that someone would take the time to spoof me
    over meat...

    Hasta, Curt Nelson

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