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  1. ~patches~ said:


    Mark Thorson said:


    I bought the grandaddy of all whirling blade grinders
    on eBay. It's 400W, and has hose barbs for attaching
    coolant lines to both the grinding chamber and the
    lid on the grinding chamber, which are both cast metal.
    I think I paid $30, with shipping.

    Brand? And if you were the one bidding against me I'm going to smack
    you silly! Just kidding 🙂 I hope you enjoy your new purchase.

    It's a Chemical Rubber Company Micro-Mill. I would
    guess the intended use was to grind mineral fillers
    to be added to rubbers and plastics. Of course,
    I'll clean it extremely well before trying to run
    any food through it.

    Only one person bid against me, with a max just
    above the starting bid, so I sniped it from them
    for something like fifty cents or a dollar above
    the starting bid. It was like $10 for the machine
    and $20 for shipping.

    It has unusually nice styling for a piece of lab
    equipment. It's got a jadite finish, like an old
    Hamilton Beach malt mixer, and a nice squarish
    truncated pyramidal body.

    Another piece of lab equipment I've been thinking would be
    interesting would be a microfluidizer from Microfluidics.
    I've seen a couple on eBay, which went for very
    reasonable prices, but in unknown functional condition.
    The drawbacks are a) the countertop versions run off
    of compressed air, not electricity, b) replacement
    parts are out-of-sight expensive, and c) they cannot
    be cleaned, except by passing cleaning fluids through
    it. If you don't know what the previous owner used
    it for, you really can't use it for food.

    What would be cool is that the microfluidizer is the
    best machine I've ever seen for producing an emulsified,
    smooth product. One of their major uses is in the
    production of high-priced cosmetics -- this machine is
    one of the highly guarded secrets in that industry.

    I'm very curious what it would do to chocolate.
    I think it could achieve a texture that might be
    beyond anything any other technology has yet achieved.

  2. aem said:


    Small coffee grinders also work well for grinding spices and herbs.
    But do you get all the residual coffee taste out of them by
    washing/wiping them before doing spices? For those who use one grinder
    for both tasks, how do you clean them between the different uses? Or
    is it better just to have two? -aem

    Well, the coffee flavor is not a problem since I don't use mine
    for coffee, which I hate. I just wipe it out the best I can
    with a damp paper towel. I don't worry about it too much. You're
    not going to get enough of whatever was in it before to contaminate
    whatever you're grinding. At least it has never been a problem
    for me.

    Kate

  3. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Personally, I have two. ;-)
    The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with
    WHITE RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out
    nice and white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

  4. The Bubbo said:

    Thank you! That was my next question. I'd been considering making my own chili
    powder and was going to buy a second grinder, but wanted to know how to clean
    it out so I could then make garam masala without picking up chili powder
    flavors.


    Clean out the grinder **as soon as** you are done making the chili
    powder (with the rice). Wipe out well with a damp cloth.
    blacksalt

  5. "kalanamak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Personally, I have two. ;-)
    The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with WHITE
    RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out nice and
    white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

    I did the same thing, but I guess I didn't grind enough rice. Right now the
    grinder is in a cabinet, waiting for me to decide if I'm going to try again
    or send it off to a thrift shop where someone else can deal with it. Maybe
    I'll grind some more rice and see how it goes.

    Donna

  6. On Thu 08 Dec 2005 08:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it D.Currie?

    Quoted message said:


    "kalanamak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Personally, I have two. ;-)
    The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with
    WHITE RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out
    nice and white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

    I did the same thing, but I guess I didn't grind enough rice. Right now
    the grinder is in a cabinet, waiting for me to decide if I'm going to
    try again or send it off to a thrift shop where someone else can deal
    with it. Maybe I'll grind some more rice and see how it goes.

    If your grinder has a plastic lid, the plastic can absorb odors. You can
    soak it or dishwasher it, then let it air dry. Grind more rice in the
    chamber, then wipe it out with a cloth dampened in lemon juice.

    I make compound curry powders and chili blends, both of which are highly
    aromatic. The rice does work if you're persistent with it.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  7. "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "kalanamak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Personally, I have two. ;-)
    The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with WHITE
    RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out nice and
    white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

    I did the same thing, but I guess I didn't grind enough rice. Right now
    the grinder is in a cabinet, waiting for me to decide if I'm going to try
    again or send it off to a thrift shop where someone else can deal with it.
    Maybe I'll grind some more rice and see how it goes.

    Donna

    You can also grind dry chunks of bread for cleaning.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  8. aem said:

    Small coffee grinders also work well for grinding spices and herbs.
    But do you get all the residual coffee taste out of them by
    washing/wiping them before doing spices? For those who use one grinder
    for both tasks, how do you clean them between the different uses? Or
    is it better just to have two? -aem

    A good method is to grind some uncooked rice.

  9. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 08 Dec 2005 08:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it D.Currie?

    Quoted message said:


    "kalanamak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

    > Personally, I have two. ;-)
    > The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with
    WHITE RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out
    nice and white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

    I did the same thing, but I guess I didn't grind enough rice. Right now
    the grinder is in a cabinet, waiting for me to decide if I'm going to
    try again or send it off to a thrift shop where someone else can deal
    with it. Maybe I'll grind some more rice and see how it goes.

    If your grinder has a plastic lid, the plastic can absorb odors. You can
    soak it or dishwasher it, then let it air dry. Grind more rice in the
    chamber, then wipe it out with a cloth dampened in lemon juice.

    I make compound curry powders and chili blends, both of which are highly
    aromatic. The rice does work if you're persistent with it.

    I'll give it another try before I dump it. At one point, I had the thing
    disassembled, and there was coffee down in the works below the blade and
    bowl, but cleaning that out didn't make much difference. We'll see....

    Donna

  10. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 08 Dec 2005 08:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it D.Currie?

    Quoted message said:


    "kalanamak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

    > Personally, I have two. ;-)
    > The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with
    WHITE RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out
    nice and white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

    I did the same thing, but I guess I didn't grind enough rice. Right now
    the grinder is in a cabinet, waiting for me to decide if I'm going to
    try again or send it off to a thrift shop where someone else can deal
    with it. Maybe I'll grind some more rice and see how it goes.

    If your grinder has a plastic lid, the plastic can absorb odors. You can
    soak it or dishwasher it, then let it air dry. Grind more rice in the
    chamber, then wipe it out with a cloth dampened in lemon juice.

    I make compound curry powders and chili blends, both of which are highly
    aromatic. The rice does work if you're persistent with it.

    I'll give it another try before I dump it. At one point, I had the thing
    disassembled, and there was coffee down in the works below the blade and
    bowl, but cleaning that out didn't make much difference. We'll see....

    Donna

  11. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 08 Dec 2005 08:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it D.Currie?

    Quoted message said:


    "kalanamak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

    > Personally, I have two. ;-)
    > The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with
    WHITE RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out
    nice and white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

    I did the same thing, but I guess I didn't grind enough rice. Right now
    the grinder is in a cabinet, waiting for me to decide if I'm going to
    try again or send it off to a thrift shop where someone else can deal
    with it. Maybe I'll grind some more rice and see how it goes.

    If your grinder has a plastic lid, the plastic can absorb odors. You can
    soak it or dishwasher it, then let it air dry. Grind more rice in the
    chamber, then wipe it out with a cloth dampened in lemon juice.

    I make compound curry powders and chili blends, both of which are highly
    aromatic. The rice does work if you're persistent with it.

    I'll give it another try before I dump it. At one point, I had the thing
    disassembled, and there was coffee down in the works below the blade and
    bowl, but cleaning that out didn't make much difference. We'll see....

    Donna

  12. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 08 Dec 2005 08:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it D.Currie?

    Quoted message said:


    "kalanamak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

    > Personally, I have two. ;-)
    > The small electric ones are not that expensive.

    I went to a burr grinder for coffee, and cleaned my little one with
    WHITE RICE, uncooked. Repeat by the handful until the powder comes out
    nice and white. Works beautifully.
    blacksalt

    I did the same thing, but I guess I didn't grind enough rice. Right now
    the grinder is in a cabinet, waiting for me to decide if I'm going to
    try again or send it off to a thrift shop where someone else can deal
    with it. Maybe I'll grind some more rice and see how it goes.

    If your grinder has a plastic lid, the plastic can absorb odors. You can
    soak it or dishwasher it, then let it air dry. Grind more rice in the
    chamber, then wipe it out with a cloth dampened in lemon juice.

    I make compound curry powders and chili blends, both of which are highly
    aromatic. The rice does work if you're persistent with it.

    I'll give it another try before I dump it. At one point, I had the thing
    disassembled, and there was coffee down in the works below the blade and
    bowl, but cleaning that out didn't make much difference. We'll see....

    Donna

  13. And if I had the power to run this thing,
    I would be bidding on this:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7570844881

    That's my idea of a serious mixer!
    (And Ross is THE BEST manufacturer of such things.)

  14. On Fri 09 Dec 2005 01:55:05p, Mark Thorson wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    And if I had the power to run this thing,
    I would be bidding on this:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7570844881

    That's my idea of a serious mixer!
    (And Ross is THE BEST manufacturer of such things.)

    That would make one hell of a malt mixer!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  15. Oh, and when I did some tougher spice, it chipped the thin part of the
    lid, so I cut that off with a hack saw and just am careful to hold the
    lid down. When I wiped it out, I "lifted" the shaft the blades were on a
    bit and wiped under the collar.
    blacksalt

  16. Mark Thorson said:
    ~patches~ said:
    Mark Thorson said:

    I bought the grandaddy of all whirling blade grinders
    on eBay. It's 400W, and has hose barbs for attaching
    coolant lines to both the grinding chamber and the
    lid on the grinding chamber, which are both cast metal.
    I think I paid $30, with shipping.

    Brand? And if you were the one bidding against me I'm going to smack
    you silly! Just kidding 🙂 I hope you enjoy your new purchase.

    It's a Chemical Rubber Company Micro-Mill. I would
    guess the intended use was to grind mineral fillers
    to be added to rubbers and plastics. Of course,
    I'll clean it extremely well before trying to run
    any food through it.

    Only one person bid against me, with a max just
    above the starting bid, so I sniped it from them
    for something like fifty cents or a dollar above
    the starting bid. It was like $10 for the machine
    and $20 for shipping.

    It has unusually nice styling for a piece of lab
    equipment. It's got a jadite finish, like an old
    Hamilton Beach malt mixer, and a nice squarish
    truncated pyramidal body.

    Another piece of lab equipment I've been thinking would be
    interesting would be a microfluidizer from Microfluidics.
    I've seen a couple on eBay, which went for very
    reasonable prices, but in unknown functional condition.
    The drawbacks are a) the countertop versions run off
    of compressed air, not electricity, b) replacement
    parts are out-of-sight expensive, and c) they cannot
    be cleaned, except by passing cleaning fluids through
    it. If you don't know what the previous owner used
    it for, you really can't use it for food.

    What would be cool is that the microfluidizer is the
    best machine I've ever seen for producing an emulsified,
    smooth product. One of their major uses is in the
    production of high-priced cosmetics -- this machine is
    one of the highly guarded secrets in that industry.

    I'm very curious what it would do to chocolate.
    I think it could achieve a texture that might be
    beyond anything any other technology has yet achieved.

    This sounds like one very interesting grinder! I'm sure you will enjoy
    it. I'm going to check around on ebay to see if there are any more.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    aem said:

    Small coffee grinders also work well for grinding spices and herbs.
    But do you get all the residual coffee taste out of them by
    washing/wiping them before doing spices? For those who use one grinder
    for both tasks, how do you clean them between the different uses? Or
    is it better just to have two? -aem

    The title is a little ambiguous. I assumed it was about having two (or
    more) pepper grinders. If you read the Penzey's catalog, they suggest
    one for black pepper and one for white, as a starter.

    We grind our spices in a mortar and pestle. That can be a little
    painful.

    My wife made Santa Lucia Cats yesterday. They are sweet buns. The
    recipe called for saffron. That was way too expensive. The recipe
    suggested that orange peel could be used for the color also. The recipe
    called for major cardamom. I explained that we had whole cardamom. She
    was lazy, but it was US$8.00 for a little bottle of the ground. I
    volunteered to smush some cardamom. It was a major battle.

    --
    Dan Abel
    [email hidden]
    Petaluma, California, USA

  18. Quoted message said:

    The title is a little ambiguous.

    Boy do I agree with that!!!

    I thought hmmm... one roast beef with lettuce and tomato, light mayo and
    american cheese and an italian hoagie with a side of pappers.

    How simple words can ruin a train of thought!!!

    Andy

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