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  1. Perhaps Preston Crawford, whose posts I've been reading, can advise me
    the best. I welcome any answers though.

    I'm 28, and have recently been trying to get myself back into my high
    school/early college shape. I'm 5'6", and at 155lbs back then, with a
    bit of muscle, I considered myself to be in good shape. In the past 8
    years or so, though most of the damage was done by 4-5 years ago, I've
    managed to let myself get up to around 260. Ouch.

    Anyway, for the past month, I've been doing quite a bit of walking and
    have climbed a few peaks in Maine, where I live, and have taken off
    11lbs. The thing is, walking is about the most boring fitness activity
    I can think of, but my motivation hasn't waned yet. Hiking is a lot of
    fun, but I can only do that once a week. I live in a fairly bike
    friendly city, Portland Maine. I live about 2 3/4 miles from my office
    in downtown, and there's one hill to get over both to and from work,
    which climbs no more than 100 feet or so, and gradually at that. A
    flat route is also possible at the expense of about 2 extra miles of
    riding, but that is a gravel path, not asphalt.

    So, I'm looking for a bike which will:

    1) Be strong enough to hold up a 250lb (and falling) guy.
    2) Be a decent short commuter bike, ridden primarily on asphalt.
    3) Be up to the task of some longer weekend pokes through the country,
    again mostly on asphalt.
    4) Not be unstable or prone to wiping out when it sees a bit of hard
    packed, and occasionally loose gravel.
    5) Be up for the occasional trip to the carriage roads in Acadia
    National Park.
    6) Not cost more than $600 or so.
    7) No cutting edge, prone to looking VERY aged, frame designs or
    colors. My last bike was a white on purple 1991 Nishiki Ariel.

    Right now, I have my eyes on a Trek 7.3fx. Is a hybrid even my best
    answer, though? FWIW, I don't like drop handlebars. My gut would get
    in the way of me hunching over anyway, at least for now 🙂

    Should I just fix up my Nishiki Ariel and put up with the early 90s
    paint scheme and dated elevated chainstay look? Oh yeah, I was 14 when
    I bought it, and it's on the small side now.

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    Thanks in advance!

    - Chris

  2. "Chris Sprague" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps Preston Crawford, whose posts I've been reading, can advise me
    the best. I welcome any answers though.

    I'm 28, and have recently been trying to get myself back into my high
    school/early college shape. I'm 5'6", and at 155lbs back then, with a
    bit of muscle, I considered myself to be in good shape. In the past 8
    years or so, though most of the damage was done by 4-5 years ago, I've
    managed to let myself get up to around 260. Ouch.

    Anyway, for the past month, I've been doing quite a bit of walking and
    have climbed a few peaks in Maine, where I live, and have taken off
    11lbs. The thing is, walking is about the most boring fitness activity
    I can think of, but my motivation hasn't waned yet. Hiking is a lot of
    fun, but I can only do that once a week. I live in a fairly bike
    friendly city, Portland Maine. I live about 2 3/4 miles from my office
    in downtown, and there's one hill to get over both to and from work,
    which climbs no more than 100 feet or so, and gradually at that. A
    flat route is also possible at the expense of about 2 extra miles of
    riding, but that is a gravel path, not asphalt.

    So, I'm looking for a bike which will:

    1) Be strong enough to hold up a 250lb (and falling) guy.
    2) Be a decent short commuter bike, ridden primarily on asphalt.
    3) Be up to the task of some longer weekend pokes through the country,
    again mostly on asphalt.
    4) Not be unstable or prone to wiping out when it sees a bit of hard
    packed, and occasionally loose gravel.
    5) Be up for the occasional trip to the carriage roads in Acadia
    National Park.
    6) Not cost more than $600 or so.
    7) No cutting edge, prone to looking VERY aged, frame designs or
    colors. My last bike was a white on purple 1991 Nishiki Ariel.

    Right now, I have my eyes on a Trek 7.3fx. Is a hybrid even my best
    answer, though? FWIW, I don't like drop handlebars. My gut would get
    in the way of me hunching over anyway, at least for now 🙂

    Should I just fix up my Nishiki Ariel and put up with the early 90s
    paint scheme and dated elevated chainstay look? Oh yeah, I was 14 when
    I bought it, and it's on the small side now.

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    Thanks in advance!

    - Chris

    May I be so bold as to suggest you visit your personal health care provider
    before buying anything. The fact is, extreme weight change is not something
    to be taken lightly--so to speak. The weight gain you describe sounds
    dangerous. There may be some physiological issues at work here (other than
    just abnormal weight). Just my opinion.

  3. Lee said:

    May I be so bold as to suggest you visit your personal health care provider
    before buying anything. The fact is, extreme weight change is not something
    to be taken lightly--so to speak. The weight gain you describe sounds
    dangerous. There may be some physiological issues at work here (other than
    just abnormal weight). Just my opinion.

    I appreciate your concern. Rest assured that I have regulary
    (bi-annual) check-ups with my doctor, and there's nothing going on with
    me other than poor lifestyle habits. The start of my weight gain
    coincided with a few things. First, my running partner moved away and
    I lost a lot of my motivation (fall 1997). Secondly, I went from
    working long physially grueling hours on a commerical landscaping crew
    in the summer to being a cubicle monkey, and have been one ever since
    (spring 1998). Thirdly, I dated a girl who didn't have a very active
    lifestyle, and I got sucked in a bit, and at the same time figured,
    "hey, I got a girlfriend, I no longer need to obsess about fitness"
    (fall 1998).

    Number 3 was dealt with a loooong time ago. But 1 and 2 persisted. 25
    lbs/year or so of gain for 4 years, reaching a plateau in 2001 or so.
    My weight hasn't changed much since then.

    Doctor's advice? Eat a bit better, and for God's sake, be more active!
    Walking and biking are two things he specifically suggested as
    low-impact activities. The only thing he advised against for the time
    being was jogging, since it would just about ruin my knees were I to do
    that right now. Not that I really could anyway.

    So, no worries mate.

    - Chris

  4. "Chris Sprague" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Lee said:

    May I be so bold as to suggest you visit your personal health care


    provider

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    before buying anything. The fact is, extreme weight change is not


    something

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to be taken lightly--so to speak. The weight gain you describe sounds
    dangerous. There may be some physiological issues at work here (other


    than

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just abnormal weight). Just my opinion.

    I appreciate your concern. Rest assured that I have regulary
    (bi-annual) check-ups with my doctor, and there's nothing going on with
    me other than poor lifestyle habits. The start of my weight gain
    coincided with a few things. First, my running partner moved away and
    I lost a lot of my motivation (fall 1997). Secondly, I went from
    working long physially grueling hours on a commerical landscaping crew
    in the summer to being a cubicle monkey, and have been one ever since
    (spring 1998). Thirdly, I dated a girl who didn't have a very active
    lifestyle, and I got sucked in a bit, and at the same time figured,
    "hey, I got a girlfriend, I no longer need to obsess about fitness"
    (fall 1998).

    Number 3 was dealt with a loooong time ago. But 1 and 2 persisted. 25
    lbs/year or so of gain for 4 years, reaching a plateau in 2001 or so.
    My weight hasn't changed much since then.

    Doctor's advice? Eat a bit better, and for God's sake, be more active!
    Walking and biking are two things he specifically suggested as
    low-impact activities. The only thing he advised against for the time
    being was jogging, since it would just about ruin my knees were I to do
    that right now. Not that I really could anyway.

    So, no worries mate.

    - Chris

    Good for you, Chris. Yeah, the life style can definitely affect a person.
    Good luck on your choice of bike. Later.

  5. Chris Sprague said:

    Perhaps Preston Crawford, whose posts I've been reading, can advise me
    the best. I welcome any answers though.

    I'm 28, and have recently been trying to get myself back into my high
    school/early college shape. I'm 5'6", and at 155lbs back then, with a
    bit of muscle, I considered myself to be in good shape. In the past 8
    years or so, though most of the damage was done by 4-5 years ago, I've
    managed to let myself get up to around 260. Ouch.

    Anyway, for the past month, I've been doing quite a bit of walking and
    have climbed a few peaks in Maine, where I live, and have taken off
    11lbs. The thing is, walking is about the most boring fitness activity
    I can think of, but my motivation hasn't waned yet. Hiking is a lot of
    fun, but I can only do that once a week. I live in a fairly bike
    friendly city, Portland Maine. I live about 2 3/4 miles from my office
    in downtown, and there's one hill to get over both to and from work,
    which climbs no more than 100 feet or so, and gradually at that. A
    flat route is also possible at the expense of about 2 extra miles of
    riding, but that is a gravel path, not asphalt.

    So, I'm looking for a bike which will:

    1) Be strong enough to hold up a 250lb (and falling) guy.
    2) Be a decent short commuter bike, ridden primarily on asphalt.
    3) Be up to the task of some longer weekend pokes through the country,
    again mostly on asphalt.
    4) Not be unstable or prone to wiping out when it sees a bit of hard
    packed, and occasionally loose gravel.
    5) Be up for the occasional trip to the carriage roads in Acadia
    National Park.
    6) Not cost more than $600 or so.
    7) No cutting edge, prone to looking VERY aged, frame designs or
    colors. My last bike was a white on purple 1991 Nishiki Ariel.

    Right now, I have my eyes on a Trek 7.3fx. Is a hybrid even my best
    answer, though? FWIW, I don't like drop handlebars. My gut would get
    in the way of me hunching over anyway, at least for now 🙂

    Should I just fix up my Nishiki Ariel and put up with the early 90s
    paint scheme and dated elevated chainstay look? Oh yeah, I was 14 when
    I bought it, and it's on the small side now.

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    Thanks in advance!

    - Chris

    You might want to look at a used cyclo cross bike. They are super
    strong (both frame and wheels) and will easily support your weight. In
    addition they give a road bike feel to riding on pavement and can still
    tackle the type of off road situations you describe (and more).
    Since New England is a big center for cyclo cross you should be able to
    find something at a reasonable price.

  6. Quoted message said:

    Right now, I have my eyes on a Trek 7.3fx. Is a hybrid even my best
    answer, though? FWIW, I don't like drop handlebars. My gut would get
    in the way of me hunching over anyway, at least for now 🙂

    Should I just fix up my Nishiki Ariel and put up with the early 90s
    paint scheme and dated elevated chainstay look? Oh yeah, I was 14 when
    I bought it, and it's on the small side now.

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    You beat me to it. I was going to suggest the 7.3FX as a fun, capable bike
    that doesn't cut any corners anywhere. Main issue is finding one; they're
    typically on back-order for extended lengths of time (although Trek promises
    they'll be taking care of that shortly). The 7.5FX is another rock star, but
    costs about $700. More of the same plus a lighter carbon fork (but a very
    beefy lighter carbon fork... this isn't one you have to be afraid of). But
    seriously, I just picked up a 7.3FX for my daughter for college, and it's a
    great machine. There will be similar bikes from other manufacturers, but
    since I don't deal with them I can't give much of an opinion. I can say that
    the quality of shop can sometimes make a bigger difference than what you
    find between two bike brands... if the 7.3FX is available from a dealer that
    seems like a place that won't run away if you come back in the door with a
    problem, sounds like you've got a solution at hand.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Chris Sprague" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps Preston Crawford, whose posts I've been reading, can advise me
    the best. I welcome any answers though.

    I'm 28, and have recently been trying to get myself back into my high
    school/early college shape. I'm 5'6", and at 155lbs back then, with a
    bit of muscle, I considered myself to be in good shape. In the past 8
    years or so, though most of the damage was done by 4-5 years ago, I've
    managed to let myself get up to around 260. Ouch.

    Anyway, for the past month, I've been doing quite a bit of walking and
    have climbed a few peaks in Maine, where I live, and have taken off
    11lbs. The thing is, walking is about the most boring fitness activity
    I can think of, but my motivation hasn't waned yet. Hiking is a lot of
    fun, but I can only do that once a week. I live in a fairly bike
    friendly city, Portland Maine. I live about 2 3/4 miles from my office
    in downtown, and there's one hill to get over both to and from work,
    which climbs no more than 100 feet or so, and gradually at that. A
    flat route is also possible at the expense of about 2 extra miles of
    riding, but that is a gravel path, not asphalt.

    So, I'm looking for a bike which will:

    1) Be strong enough to hold up a 250lb (and falling) guy.
    2) Be a decent short commuter bike, ridden primarily on asphalt.
    3) Be up to the task of some longer weekend pokes through the country,
    again mostly on asphalt.
    4) Not be unstable or prone to wiping out when it sees a bit of hard
    packed, and occasionally loose gravel.
    5) Be up for the occasional trip to the carriage roads in Acadia
    National Park.
    6) Not cost more than $600 or so.
    7) No cutting edge, prone to looking VERY aged, frame designs or
    colors. My last bike was a white on purple 1991 Nishiki Ariel.

    Right now, I have my eyes on a Trek 7.3fx. Is a hybrid even my best
    answer, though? FWIW, I don't like drop handlebars. My gut would get
    in the way of me hunching over anyway, at least for now 🙂

    Should I just fix up my Nishiki Ariel and put up with the early 90s
    paint scheme and dated elevated chainstay look? Oh yeah, I was 14 when
    I bought it, and it's on the small side now.

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    Thanks in advance!

    - Chris

  7. Chris Sprague said:

    Perhaps Preston Crawford, whose posts I've been reading, can advise me
    the best. I welcome any answers though.

    I'm 28, and have recently been trying to get myself back into my high
    school/early college shape. I'm 5'6", and at 155lbs back then, with a
    bit of muscle, I considered myself to be in good shape. In the past 8
    years or so, though most of the damage was done by 4-5 years ago, I've
    managed to let myself get up to around 260. Ouch.

    Anyway, for the past month, I've been doing quite a bit of walking and
    have climbed a few peaks in Maine, where I live, and have taken off
    11lbs. The thing is, walking is about the most boring fitness activity
    I can think of, but my motivation hasn't waned yet. Hiking is a lot of
    fun, but I can only do that once a week. I live in a fairly bike
    friendly city, Portland Maine. I live about 2 3/4 miles from my office
    in downtown, and there's one hill to get over both to and from work,
    which climbs no more than 100 feet or so, and gradually at that. A
    flat route is also possible at the expense of about 2 extra miles of
    riding, but that is a gravel path, not asphalt.

    So, I'm looking for a bike which will:

    1) Be strong enough to hold up a 250lb (and falling) guy.
    2) Be a decent short commuter bike, ridden primarily on asphalt.
    3) Be up to the task of some longer weekend pokes through the country,
    again mostly on asphalt.
    4) Not be unstable or prone to wiping out when it sees a bit of hard
    packed, and occasionally loose gravel.
    5) Be up for the occasional trip to the carriage roads in Acadia
    National Park.
    6) Not cost more than $600 or so.
    7) No cutting edge, prone to looking VERY aged, frame designs or
    colors. My last bike was a white on purple 1991 Nishiki Ariel.

    Two hands down great bikes would be a Breezer city bike, or an REI
    Novara Transfer. Both have hub gears, fenders, and all the things that
    will make cycling this fall enjoyable. With these bikes, there's little
    to break, and they can be ridden wearing anything. They give you no
    excuses. You also won't grow out of them, as you'll want to keep them
    as utility/commuting bikes even if you go sportier.

    http://www.breezerbikes.com/bike_details.cfm?bikeType=town&frame=d&bike=citizen
    http://tinyurl.com/k5mzj

    Either should run around $600.

  8. On 20 Sep 2006 06:34:06 -0700, "Chris Sprague"
    <[email hidden]> wrote, in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    You mentioned the Trek 7.3 fx and it appears to meet your
    requirements. There are several bikes in that general hybrid
    category. I think you'll do fine by choosing any one without a
    suspension fork, seat post or stem.

    At 250 lbs, doing the recreational and utility riding you've planned,
    you're not going to be over stressing any but the stupid light bikes.

    Stay away from the low spoke count boutique wheels but be sure to
    have the LBS prepare (tension and stress relieve) the factory wheels
    of whatever bike you do buy.

    Good luck and have fun. Bicycling can take you places not yet
    imagined. It's conducive to beneficial and lasting lifestyle changes.
    --
    zk

  9. gds said:

    You might want to look at a used cyclo cross bike. They are super
    strong (both frame and wheels) and will easily support your weight. In
    addition they give a road bike feel to riding on pavement and can still
    tackle the type of off road situations you describe (and more).
    Since New England is a big center for cyclo cross you should be able to
    find something at a reasonable price.

    Cyclocross bikes tend to have drop handlebars though, no?

    - Chris

  10. Chris Sprague said:

    So, I'm looking for a bike which will:

    1) Be strong enough to hold up a 250lb (and falling) guy.
    2) Be a decent short commuter bike, ridden primarily on asphalt.
    3) Be up to the task of some longer weekend pokes through the country,
    again mostly on asphalt.
    4) Not be unstable or prone to wiping out when it sees a bit of hard
    packed, and occasionally loose gravel.
    5) Be up for the occasional trip to the carriage roads in Acadia
    National Park.
    6) Not cost more than $600 or so.
    7) No cutting edge, prone to looking VERY aged, frame designs or
    colors. My last bike was a white on purple 1991 Nishiki Ariel.

    Look at "http://bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/tourist.htm"

    You basically want a steel-frame bike with strong wheels. You can always
    put on different tires if you want something that can do okay on
    non-asphalt, but of course there's no free lunch.

    The $600 is the hard part. These days you really pay a lot for a bicycle
    with very strong wheels and a strong frame, that can accommodate wider
    tires.

    The Bianchi Brava (http://bianchiusa.com/05_brava.html) would also be
    good, but it's more expensive. Still, it goes on sale for around $650,
    at least around where I live.

  11. Chris Sprague said:
    gds said:

    You might want to look at a used cyclo cross bike. They are super
    strong (both frame and wheels) and will easily support your weight. In
    addition they give a road bike feel to riding on pavement and can still
    tackle the type of off road situations you describe (and more).
    Since New England is a big center for cyclo cross you should be able to
    find something at a reasonable price.

    Cyclocross bikes tend to have drop handlebars though, no?

    - Chris

    Yep! but 1) you can switch them out for flat bars or 2) you can try
    getting used to them. Personally I find drop bars far more comnfortable
    than flat bars. There are many more hand/ body combinations. You can
    set up drop bars so that you are not super low on the bike. And when
    riding on the tops it really does not have to be much different than on
    a flat bar.

  12. gds said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cyclocross bikes tend to have drop handlebars though, no?

    - Chris

    Yep! but 1) you can switch them out for flat bars or 2) you can try
    getting used to them. Personally I find drop bars far more comnfortable
    than flat bars. There are many more hand/ body combinations. You can
    set up drop bars so that you are not super low on the bike. And when
    riding on the tops it really does not have to be much different than on
    a flat bar.

    Well I suppose that on Saturday, when I hit the LBSs, it won't hurt to
    at least try a couple out. Thanks for the suggestion. There are a lot
    more categories of bikes on the market than there were in 1991, that's
    for sure.

    - Chris

  13. Personally, I would go for an entry level mountain bike, fitted with
    road or "hybrid" tires, at least 1.5/1.9 inches wide. Rear rack to carry
    your lunch pail (a good handlebar bag too, if you need the extra room).

    An MTB will let you conquer the occational off-pavement, the higher
    pressure not-as-knobby tires will go easier on the pavement. Also, if
    the "dirt-bug" bites (as it did me) being an actual MTB will let you get
    out there at least somewhat, without busting your wallet like a TOOL
    machine which wouldn't be appropriate if all you end up using it for is
    basic road/occasional dirt road use.

    - -
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    "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    My web Site:
    http://geocities.com/czcorner

    To E-mail me:
    ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net

  14. Chris Y.F.N.W. said:

    TOOL machine

    A what?

  15. Chris Sprague said:

    Perhaps Preston Crawford, whose posts I've been reading, can advise me
    the best. I welcome any answers though.


    snipped:

    I live in a fairly bike

    Quoted message said:

    friendly city, Portland Maine. I live about 2 3/4 miles from my office
    in downtown, and there's one hill to get over both to and from work,
    which climbs no more than 100 feet or so, and gradually at that. A
    flat route is also possible at the expense of about 2 extra miles of
    riding, but that is a gravel path, not asphalt.

    So, I'm looking for a bike which will:

    1) Be strong enough to hold up a 250lb (and falling) guy.
    2) Be a decent short commuter bike, ridden primarily on asphalt.
    3) Be up to the task of some longer weekend pokes through the country,
    again mostly on asphalt.
    4) Not be unstable or prone to wiping out when it sees a bit of hard
    packed, and occasionally loose gravel.
    5) Be up for the occasional trip to the carriage roads in Acadia
    National Park.
    6) Not cost more than $600 or so.
    7) No cutting edge, prone to looking VERY aged, frame designs or
    colors. My last bike was a white on purple 1991 Nishiki Ariel.


    FWIW, I don't like drop handlebars. My gut would get

    Quoted message said:

    in the way of me hunching over anyway, at least for now 🙂

    Thanks in advance!

    - Chris

    Hi there Chris.

    Perhaps a mountain bike with a rigid-frame and fork would work well for
    you.

    It can be fitted with narrow tires, fenders and a luggage rack.

    For a cyclist who will have just one bicycle for conditios such as you
    have mentioned I think a mountain bike is the most versatile.

    It can even be ridden in winter with the knobby tires and it rides
    nicely on pavement and rough roads or hard-pack trails with the thinner
    1.5 inch tires.

    I have an old Miele mountain bike I have put drop bars on. In winter it
    can be refitted with the straightbars and shifters if I so desire. it
    doesn't take that long.

    This can be an option for you later on as you become more fit.

    A picture of it with the drop bars can be seen at:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/73832500@N00/193571690/

    Good luck with whatever you decide on.

    May the wind always be at your back and may your flats be few. Peter

  16. Group: rec.bicycles.misc
    Date: Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 11:58am (EDT-3)
    From: [email hidden] (Chris Sprague)

    Quoted message said:

    Chris Y.F.N.W. wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    TOOL machine

    Quoted message said:

    A what?

    That was supposed to be TOTL (Top Of The Line), sorry.

    - -
    Comments and opinions compliments of,
    "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    My web Site:
    http://geocities.com/czcorner

    To E-mail me:
    ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net

  17. Chris Sprague said:

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    Enquiring minds wanna know . . . whad ya' get???

  18. Frank Taco said:
    Chris Sprague said:

    Some model suggestions? I plan to ride a bunch of stuff on Saturday,
    and there's a dealer for pretty much every brand I know of in Portland.

    Enquiring minds wanna know . . . whad ya' get???

    Being late in the year, I decided against putting up a bunch of money
    for a new bike for the time being. I had my old Nishiki Ariel tuned
    up, but on some less knobby tires, and will use that through the end of
    this fall.

    New bike in the spring, probably.

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