on rollers

Michael Press wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

So then, where do little track riders come from?

They go around and around and around in circles. They don't come from
anywhere.

--
Bill Asher

In article <[email hidden]>,

William Asher said:

Donald Munro said:

William Asher said:

You can also increase the effort by riding off the rollers every few
minutes and sprinting into the wall on the opposite side of the room.

If you're a track rider you could try riding up the wall rather than into
it. You can supply proof of doing this by leaving skid marks on the walls
as well as the floor.

Dedicated track riders could just take Bondo, chicken wire, and some 2x4's
and turn any room into a miniture track by fairing the corners. If the
track were small enough and they went fast enough, the g-force would cause
them to black out. Of course, being track riders they likely wouldn't even
notice when that happened. Thinking a little more about the problem, if
they did that with a small enough room so that their head was on the
opposite of the bicycle wheels in terms of the axis of the room (assuming a
square room), then the g-force on their head would be in the opposite
direction of that on their legs.

Hmm. So if a person was to ride a bike on a track that was small enough to be
banked very steeply (like close to 90 degrees) and it was sort of funnel shaped, the
rider could work their way down to the base of the funnel and their head would end
up on the opposite side of the center. And then their head would be going backwards
while their feet are going forward. I think that would seriously mess with your mind.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Quoted message said:

I need to get smth for indoor training, and rollers look more fun than
trainers.

Can I take rollers to a race warm up (the foldable models) or will I
look like an idiot?

Can I get a decent workout, apart from the balance practice, on
rollers?

If the answer is yes to both of the above, which model can be folded,
has resistance, but is still affordable (say, under $250).

You forgot the most important question:
Can you use rollers in an altitude tent? And if so does seven feet then
equal nine?

Quoted message said:

30min before nuts go numb? Man I must have balls o steel!

Headphones with loud music was all I required to make it 30-60 minutes.

Fun with rollers
Indoor power cycle - modeled after / stolen from a Roger Young workout

* 20min warm-up on rollers
* 1min intervals on rollers (progressively bigger gears)
* 30 seconds rest
* 1min lifting weights
* 30 sec rest
* 1min interval on rollers
* 30 sec rest
* 1min squats
* 30 sec rest
* 1min interval on rollers
* repeat cycle for thirty minutes
* 10 min warm down

and the real question... exactly how far does a curious cat fly? (non
bladed 13-14g 2/3 cross)

Howard Kveck said:

Hmm. So if a person was to ride a bike on a track that was small
enough to be
banked very steeply (like close to 90 degrees) and it was sort of
funnel shaped, the rider could work their way down to the base of the
funnel and their head would end up on the opposite side of the center.
And then their head would be going backwards while their feet are
going forward. I think that would seriously mess with your mind.

If you're doing something like this, you really don't have to be concerned
with much of anything messing with whatever it is you are using in place of
a mind.

It would be cool to see a bunch of clear plastic altitude tube tents built
like this so that before major races there would be all these riders
warming up by spinning around and around. After everyone warmed up, the
neutralized starts would have the riders so dizzy they would crash into
each other, fall over, and barf. It would be pretty amusing to watch, if
you like that sort of thing.

--
Bill Asher

Howard Kveck said:

Hmm. So if a person was to ride a bike on a track that was small enough to be
banked very steeply (like close to 90 degrees) and it was sort of funnel shaped, the
rider could work their way down to the base of the funnel and their head would end
up on the opposite side of the center. And then their head would be going backwards
while their feet are going forward. I think that would seriously mess with your mind.

Don't you know the old carni act of motorcycles racing in supersmall
round cages? (google) Right, "Wall of Death". I remember seeing a
picture once of a spherical (not just cylindrical) version. Ah sorry,
research going on while writing this: "Globe of Death".

--
E. Dronkert

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Howard Kveck said:

Hmm. So if a person was to ride a bike on a track that was small enough
to be banked very steeply (like close to 90 degrees) and it was sort of
funnel shaped, the rider could work their way down to the base of the funnel
and their head would end up on the opposite side of the center. And then
their head would be going backwards while their feet are going forward.
I think that would seriously mess with your mind.

Don't you know the old carni act of motorcycles racing in supersmall
round cages? (google) Right, "Wall of Death". I remember seeing a
picture once of a spherical (not just cylindrical) version. Ah sorry,
research going on while writing this: "Globe of Death".

Yeah, I had thought of that, but those weren't as small as what I was thinking
here. I've seen pictures of spherical ones too:

http://www.ashkeling.com/images/c0227.jpg

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck said:

those weren't as small as what I was thinking

I tried in vain finding a "smallest globe of death".

--
E. Dronkert

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Michael Press said:

So then, where do little track riders come from?

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Sprinters mating with gorillas ?

William Asher said:

How much beer do you need to give the gorilla?

Depends on whether the gorilla is male or female, and if female if her
name is Tammy.

Well, I guess the answer would be a spoiler for the movie: "Le Velo de
Ghilain Lambert"
Anyway, there is a scene in which he is training for the hour record in
Mexico City
by riding rollers in his garage by riding rollers while getting reduced
oxygen from
air bottles. I'm not sure if this was based on actual Merckx training.

-ilan

WeaselPoopPower said:

You forgot the most important question:
Can you use rollers in an altitude tent?

Quoted message said:

It is hard to do a long workout on rollers, as it is virtually
impossible to lift one's butt off the saddle to reposition things (cuz
you'll fall otherwise). Most everyone I know starts to go a bit numb
down there after 30 minutes (much sooner for me).

That used to be true. Check out the offerings from TruTrainer and/or
InsideRide

www.trutrainer.com
www.insisderide.com

Both took a different approach, but riding out the saddle is not much
of a problem on either of those. If you do it enough, it becomes
easier on other as well. You can prevent a lot of numbness by
levelling your saddle and/or rollers.

More info on a bunch of rollers can be found on FixedGearFever:

http://www.fixedgearfever.com/rollers

-jsp

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:20:57 -0700, Howard Kveck <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

William Asher said:

Donald Munro said:

William Asher wrote:
> You can also increase the effort by riding off the rollers every few
> minutes and sprinting into the wall on the opposite side of the room.

If you're a track rider you could try riding up the wall rather than into
it. You can supply proof of doing this by leaving skid marks on the walls
as well as the floor.

Dedicated track riders could just take Bondo, chicken wire, and some 2x4's
and turn any room into a miniture track by fairing the corners. If the
track were small enough and they went fast enough, the g-force would cause
them to black out. Of course, being track riders they likely wouldn't even
notice when that happened. Thinking a little more about the problem, if
they did that with a small enough room so that their head was on the
opposite of the bicycle wheels in terms of the axis of the room (assuming a
square room), then the g-force on their head would be in the opposite
direction of that on their legs.

Hmm. So if a person was to ride a bike on a track that was small enough to be
banked very steeply (like close to 90 degrees) and it was sort of funnel shaped, the
rider could work their way down to the base of the funnel and their head would end
up on the opposite side of the center. And then their head would be going backwards
while their feet are going forward. I think that would seriously mess with your mind.

This doesn't affect track riders.

Ron

"William Asher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Mark Fennell said:

Here's another reason the world isn't overpopulated with track
riders...

http://broadbandsports.com/node/3531

That rivals the video of Dan Pastorini getting his leg broken in two.

--

I remember that Dante broke his leg, but I think you are referring to the
video of Joe Theisman breaking his leg in a game against the Giants.

Frank Drackman said:

"William Asher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Mark Fennell said:

Here's another reason the world isn't overpopulated with track
riders...

http://broadbandsports.com/node/3531

That rivals the video of Dan Pastorini getting his leg broken in two.

--

I remember that Dante broke his leg, but I think you are referring to
the video of Joe Theisman breaking his leg in a game against the
Giants.

Right. That one. And afterwards as he was lying in his hospital bed his
wife said that was the first time in a long time that she knew who he was
sleeping with when he wasn't home.

--
Bill Asher

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Howard Kveck said:

Hmm. So if a person was to ride a bike on a track that was small
enough to be banked very steeply (like close to 90 degrees) and it was
sort of funnel shaped, the rider could work their way down to the base
of the funnel and their head would end up on the opposite side of the
center. And then their head would be going backwards while their feet
are going forward. I think that would seriously mess with your mind.

Don't you know the old carni act of motorcycles racing in supersmall
round cages? (google) Right, "Wall of Death". I remember seeing a
picture once of a spherical (not just cylindrical) version. Ah sorry,
research going on while writing this: "Globe of Death".

Barrel racing, baby. Elvis did it in a movie.