OLN-TV cycling coverage gets even thinner!

Steven L. Sheffield said:

Only weekend coverage of the Giro d'Italia; no live coverage of Classics.
Combined coverage of Paris-Roubaix and REDLANDS????? Combined coverage of
Liege-Bastogne-Liege and SEA OTTER?????

Blame it on the skimpy viewership. If OLN doesn't get the eyeballs,
they can't sell the ad time. They're better off playing reruns of
bull riding and fishing.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

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Steven L. Sheffield said:

Only weekend coverage of the Giro d'Italia; no live coverage of Classics.
Combined coverage of Paris-Roubaix and REDLANDS????? Combined coverage
of
Liege-Bastogne-Liege and SEA OTTER?????

Blame it on the skimpy viewership. If OLN doesn't get the eyeballs,
they can't sell the ad time. They're better off playing reruns of
bull riding and fishing.

And yet they seem to put bicycle racing on at weird times. Let's face it,
putting on racing at 6:00 pm thursdays isn't going to be a big viewer hit.
Nor putting it on at 12:00 pm Saturdays.

The big question is why are they setting it up for a fall?

Is there some way we can be done with it and petition to get Eurosport in
the US? I'm
just flabbergasted they're cutting the daily Giro. Really disappointing.

-Kris

"garau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Is there some way we can be done with it and petition to get Eurosport in
the US? I'm
just flabbergasted they're cutting the daily Giro. Really disappointing.

Eurosport's footprint does not cover North America.

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Blame it on the skimpy viewership. If OLN doesn't get the eyeballs,
they can't sell the ad time. They're better off playing reruns of
bull riding and fishing.
--

I don't know about all of you, but when you train on a bike everyday,
the last thing I want to see on the tube when I'm relaxing is more bike
racing. I kind of like those fishing shows. They're quiet, and peaceful.
Unlike that creepy noise those eurocrowds emit during a bike race, that just
give you more fatigue.

Callistus Valerius said:

I don't know about all of you, but when you train on a bike everyday,
the last thing I want to see on the tube when I'm relaxing is more bike
racing. I kind of like those fishing shows. They're quiet, and peaceful.
Unlike that creepy noise those eurocrowds emit during a bike race, that just
give you more fatigue.

Yeah, but I prefer the test pattern. Or in winter the yule log. I
wonder if I can get a DVD of that?

JT

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I don't know about all of you, but when you train on a bike everyday,
the last thing I want to see on the tube when I'm relaxing is more bike
racing. I kind of like those fishing shows. They're quiet, and

peaceful.

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Unlike that creepy noise those eurocrowds emit during a bike race, that

just

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give you more fatigue.

Yeah, but I prefer the test pattern. Or in winter the yule log. I
wonder if I can get a DVD of that?

OLN hasn't figured out how to cover cycling yet. They tried Trautwig,
and that was a flop. I think they need to use some technology, like Fox
covers NASCAR. Camera on the bike, during fast descents, more on the
technology of the sport, that's what Americans like. You can't cover it in
a Euro way, for an American audience. The Euro way, makes them look like
they're taking a casual ride around central park, sightseeing. And how many
castles do you have to see? They have to get cameras in the peloton, and
someway show the hazards that this sport has. Crashes are always good, but
we don't want that, so have a huge archive of crashes to show during the
boring segments. And please find a way to mask, that retarded crowd noise
the eurocrowds emit. It's as irritating as crickets. The reason bullriding
is more popular is because of how American the performers act, and the
audience response is American. So the key is to mask out the Europeans,
even having a tight shot so that you don't have to endure watching the Euro
crowds.

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I don't know about all of you, but when you train on a bike
everyday,
the last thing I want to see on the tube when I'm relaxing is more bike
racing. I kind of like those fishing shows. They're quiet, and

peaceful.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Unlike that creepy noise those eurocrowds emit during a bike race, that

just

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give you more fatigue.

Yeah, but I prefer the test pattern. Or in winter the yule log. I
wonder if I can get a DVD of that?

OLN hasn't figured out how to cover cycling yet. They tried Trautwig,
and that was a flop. I think they need to use some technology, like Fox
covers NASCAR. Camera on the bike, during fast descents, more on the
technology of the sport, that's what Americans like. You can't cover it
in
a Euro way, for an American audience. The Euro way, makes them look like
they're taking a casual ride around central park, sightseeing. And how
many
castles do you have to see? They have to get cameras in the peloton, and
someway show the hazards that this sport has. Crashes are always good,
but
we don't want that, so have a huge archive of crashes to show during the
boring segments. And please find a way to mask, that retarded crowd noise
the eurocrowds emit. It's as irritating as crickets. The reason
bullriding
is more popular is because of how American the performers act, and the
audience response is American. So the key is to mask out the Europeans,
even having a tight shot so that you don't have to endure watching the
Euro
crowds.

I have to disagree. OLN has figured out it's market rather well. Cycling
was important in building its base and getting its foot in the door with
cable providers. Remember all of those cyclists begging their cable
companies to carry OLN? It worked but as their market grew, their
demographics changed. Fishing, hunting, gun sports and associated markets
(the RV crowd) are now their staple market. Cycling is a marginal market
for them unless Lance is the centerpiece which he will not be with the
Discovery deal. Welcome back to the good old days. I expect that WCP's DVD
"division" will do increasingly well in the years ahead.

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I have to disagree. OLN has figured out it's market rather well. Cycling
was important in building its base and getting its foot in the door with
cable providers. Remember all of those cyclists begging their cable
companies to carry OLN? It worked but as their market grew, their
demographics changed. Fishing, hunting, gun sports and associated

markets

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(the RV crowd) are now their staple market. Cycling is a marginal market
for them unless Lance is the centerpiece which he will not be with the
Discovery deal. Welcome back to the good old days. I expect that WCP's

DVD

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"division" will do increasingly well in the years ahead.

Oh, I forgot about "Discovery", you're right, cycling will be out on
OLN. Yep, if you want to watch some cycling, go down to your LBS and buy a
DVD. That's back to the future.

Callistus Valerius said:

OLN hasn't figured out how to cover cycling yet. They tried

Trautwig,

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and that was a flop. I think they need to use some technology, like

Fox

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covers NASCAR. Camera on the bike, during fast descents, more on the
technology of the sport, that's what Americans like.

i think OLN gets all their feed from euro sources and they only film
the moronic cutters shows and stuff.

if it's cheesy you can bet the euros have tried it. RAI which covers
(covered?) the giro had bike cams and cams embedded in the road.

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OLN hasn't figured out how to cover cycling yet. They tried Trautwig,
and that was a flop.

They've tried Troutlips on the Olympics, Arena Football, Triathlons, etc.
He's been a flop at them all. Truly one of the worst sportscasters of all
time. I just want to vomit whenever I see him on TV. He ruined the
Olympics, and now I can't even watch Arena Football anymore.

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I think they need to use some technology, like Fox
covers NASCAR.

The only technology they *need* is Phil Liggett, Paul Sherwin and Bob Roll.
They don't film the races at all anyway, they just buy the feed from the
Euro's anyway. If OLN had to pay for the camera's and the production, we
wouldn't see any euro races at all. Actually shooting a race is
horrendously expensive

Of course, if they insist on using that Troutlips idiot. frankly I don't
want to see any more races. I'll just read about them in the magazines
instead. Let's just face it; there just aren't enough cyclists that watch
TV to support advertisers buying commercial time. It's simple math. And,
let us not forget that as soon as Lance quits, you can forget any further
coverage of the TdF in the U.S. media as well. It'll go back to one hour of
coverage on CBS on the last day of the tour, just like it was when Greg won
his.

Regards,
H.

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Yeah, but I prefer the test pattern. Or in winter the yule log. I
wonder if I can get a DVD of that?

Want mine? Comes with music. You'd have to pay shipping this year, but
this time next year I may be willing to pay to get it out of the
house. One relative insists on putting it on once a season. Its either
get rid of the DVD or the relative and I'm right on the fence on
which.

I'll pay for shipping if you want the relative. The only box big
enough doesn't have airholes, so open it up on arrival. Or not, if you
prefer...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Perhapsshould Discovery be making a move to take it over next year, the
ratings will be so low they'll have trouble getting decent advertising $,
soOLN upsets their sponsoring of Lance & Co.

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Steven L. Sheffield said:

Only weekend coverage of the Giro d'Italia; no live coverage of

Classics.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Combined coverage of Paris-Roubaix and REDLANDS????? Combined coverage
of
Liege-Bastogne-Liege and SEA OTTER?????

Blame it on the skimpy viewership. If OLN doesn't get the eyeballs,
they can't sell the ad time. They're better off playing reruns of
bull riding and fishing.

And yet they seem to put bicycle racing on at weird times. Let's face it,
putting on racing at 6:00 pm thursdays isn't going to be a big viewer hit.
Nor putting it on at 12:00 pm Saturdays.

The big question is why are they setting it up for a fall?

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have to disagree. OLN has figured out it's market rather well.
Cycling
was important in building its base and getting its foot in the door with
cable providers. Remember all of those cyclists begging their cable
companies to carry OLN? It worked but as their market grew, their
demographics changed. Fishing, hunting, gun sports and associated

markets

Quoted message said:

(the RV crowd) are now their staple market. Cycling is a marginal market
for them unless Lance is the centerpiece which he will not be with the
Discovery deal. Welcome back to the good old days. I expect that WCP's

DVD

Quoted message said:

"division" will do increasingly well in the years ahead.

Oh, I forgot about "Discovery", you're right, cycling will be out on
OLN. Yep, if you want to watch some cycling, go down to your LBS and buy
a
DVD. That's back to the future.

IIRC, OLN has one more year to go on its deal with ASO to cover their races.
I suspect that they've made a profit on that coverage with the Armstrong
years and could care less about next year in relation to cycling. They'll
maximize with their core market now. How about hunting with a crossbow
while on a bicycle?

You're interpreting it wrong, it's a good thing. The lack of coverage
means that fans will have to depend on web resources to keep up with
major races on a day-to-day basis, leading to better web sites and
feeds for coverage. Discussions on r.b.r will likely be interesting
again, actually about racing instead of lunatics like CP and MD. People
will have to use their imaginations again to envision the attacks and
action.

And think of all that people here complain about that they won't have
to put up with. No more complaining about the commercials, no more
complaining about the camera coverage, no more complaining about
something Roll says or the latest OLN color coverage commentary. For
those who have complained non-stop for the past 5+ years, they should
be happy, too.

Zub

Steven L. Sheffield said:

Only weekend coverage of the Giro d'Italia; no live coverage of Classics.
Combined coverage of Paris-Roubaix and REDLANDS????? Combined coverage of
Liege-Bastogne-Liege and SEA OTTER?????

Once again, OLN is proving to be the ONLY LANCE NETWORK!

Ewoud, save us!