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  1. My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in America. But it
    must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach Ambush, or the
    "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show of the year with lots of
    big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    --

    - - - John - - -
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    John Baughman - Ohio State, Class of ' 72
    P.O. Box 153 PLacida, FL 33946 www.FreeWheels.itgo.com Mo-Town Forever!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  2. Yo John... I don't work for OLN but like you said, the unwashed masses (and the washed like me) love
    Beach Ambush! and Bob's ads are works of comic art! specially when he does the commentator thing,
    see his face as he apes Phil - 'grand prix motorcar!' his mouth snaps shut like a 'gator!! ;-) It's
    hard to make fun of cycling!, and did you see the ad when the fishing guys rode bikes wearing
    jerseys?! a real hoot!

    Last year they played the Lincoln car commercials to the point of excess, I love the music (Mr.
    Scruff), even brought the CD, its a great CD btw! enjoy it while it lasts, the fishing and shooting
    shows return till the Giro.(Spain) <paul> Viva la OLN!

    John said: My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in
    America. But it must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach
    Ambush, or the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show of the year with lots of
    big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    --

    - - - John - - -
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  3. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Paul
    Yo John... I don't work for OLN but like you said, the unwashed masses (and the washed like me) love
    Beach Ambush! and Bob's ads are works of comic art! specially when he does the commentator thing,
    see his face as he apes Phil - 'grand prix motorcar!' his mouth snaps shut like a 'gator!! ;-) It's
    hard to make fun of cycling!, and did you see the ad when the fishing guys rode bikes wearing
    jerseys?! a real hoot!

    Last year they played the Lincoln car commercials to the point of excess, I love the music (Mr.
    Scruff), even brought the CD, its a great CD btw! enjoy it while it lasts, the fishing and shooting
    shows return till the Giro.(Spain) <paul> Viva la OLN!

    John said: My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in
    America. But it must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach
    Ambush, or the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show of the year with lots of
    big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    --

    - - - John - - -
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You know some of the commercials are at the network level (advertisers pay OLN) and some of the commercials are at the distribution level (advertisers pay DirecTV or Comcast or whatever cable/satelite company they want to do business with). So when my buddy who has the local cable distributor sees ads for local businesses (bike shops and car dealers mostly) I see something else on DirecTV - like ads for DirecTV DSL or pay per view movies.

    I thought that some of those ads for Beach Ambush were fillers for slots that were being made available for local advertising at the distribution level.

  4. Paul said:

    Yo John... I don't work for OLN but like you said, the unwashed masses (and the washed like me)
    love Beach Ambush! and Bob's ads are works of comic art! specially when he does the commentator
    thing, see his face as he apes Phil - 'grand prix motorcar!' his mouth snaps shut like a 'gator!!
    ;-) It's hard to make fun of cycling!, and did you see the ad when the fishing guys rode bikes
    wearing jerseys?! a real hoot!

    I find it repulsive that they start showing those giggley teenbabes all atremble in the near nude,
    lasciviously and temptrously nearly spilling out of their tiny garments and stop showing the pirate
    in his exciting black boots and manly red coat.

    Quoted message said:

    Last year they played the Lincoln car commercials to the point of excess, I love the music (Mr.
    Scruff), even brought the CD, its a great CD btw! enjoy it while it lasts, the fishing and
    shooting shows return till the Giro.(Spain) <paul> Viva la OLN!

    Quoted message said:

    John said: My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in
    America. But it must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of
    Beach Ambush, or the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Quoted message said:

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show of the year with lots of
    big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    Quoted message said:

    --

    Quoted message said:

    - - - John - - -
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  5. Ditto Clovis! Did you notice the many bikini/bra/halter top ladies on side of road watching the
    tour? Specially the stage LA fell, I reran my tape in slow-mo. I've wouldh've fallen for them! ;-)
    opps - I did...and married one!

    Not to mention the Lara Croft ads!!! <paul>

    Clovis said: I find it repulsive that they start showing those giggley teenbabes all atremble in the
    near nude, lasciviously and temptrously nearly spilling out of their tiny garments and stop showing
    the pirate in his exciting black boots and manly red coat.

  6. Paul said:

    Ditto Clovis! Did you notice the many bikini/bra/halter top ladies on side of road watching the
    tour? Specially the stage LA fell, I reran my tape in slow-mo. I've wouldh've fallen for them! ;-)
    opps - I did...and married one!

    Quoted message said:

    Not to mention the Lara Croft ads!!! <paul>

    I can send you my compilation of Jolie/Croft slams. I haven't had so much fun reading reviews since
    the last film came out. Why couldn't these movies be as funny as the reviews?

    "According to People magazine, cosmetic surgeons say the most requested body parts - the one
    people most want - are Nicole Kidman's nose, Sophia Loren's cheekbones, Courtney Cox's chin,
    Carmen Electra's eyes and Angelina Jolie's lips. . . . Which, if you add together, is the formula
    for Cher."
    - Jay Leno, the "Tonight" show, Oct. 13

    Quoted message said:

    Clovis said: I find it repulsive that they start showing those giggley teenbabes all atremble in
    the near nude, lasciviously and temptrously nearly spilling out of their tiny garments and stop
    showing the pirate in his exciting black boots and manly red coat.

  7. "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul said:

    Ditto Clovis! Did you notice the many bikini/bra/halter top ladies on side of road watching the
    tour? Specially the stage LA fell, I reran my tape in slow-mo. I've wouldh've fallen for them!
    ;-) opps - I did...and married one!

    Quoted message said:

    Not to mention the Lara Croft ads!!! <paul>

    I can send you my compilation of Jolie/Croft slams. I haven't had so much fun reading reviews
    since the last film came out. Why couldn't these movies be as funny as the reviews?

    Even if the movie sucks, Angelina Jolie is Hot.

  8. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul said:

    Ditto Clovis! Did you notice the many bikini/bra/halter top ladies on side of road watching the
    tour? Specially the stage LA fell, I reran my tape in slow-mo. I've wouldh've fallen for them!
    ;-) opps - I did...and married one!

    Quoted message said:

    Not to mention the Lara Croft ads!!! <paul>

    I can send you my compilation of Jolie/Croft slams. I haven't had so much fun reading reviews
    since the last film came out. Why couldn't these movies be as funny as the reviews?

    Quoted message said:

    Even if the movie sucks, Angelina Jolie is Hot.

    "There is more tension in Jolie's T-shirts than in the dramatic action." -- Kirk Honeycutt,
    HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

    "In the end, Croft loses to the most dangerous villain of them all: mediocrity." -- Cary Darling,
    MIAMI HERALD

    "If Tomb Raider were any more shallow, you'd have to spray it for mosquitoes."

    -- Curtis Edmonds, TXREVIEWS.COM

    Enjoy

  9. "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Kurgan Gringioni <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Even if the movie sucks, Angelina Jolie is Hot.

    "There is more tension in Jolie's T-shirts than in the dramatic action." -- Kirk Honeycutt,
    HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

    Sweet.

    I'm going.

  10. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Kurgan Gringioni <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Even if the movie sucks, Angelina Jolie is Hot.

    "There is more tension in Jolie's T-shirts than in the dramatic action." -- Kirk Honeycutt,
    HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

    Quoted message said:

    Sweet.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm going.

    Please send me a matching donation...

  11. "John Baughman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<3f2001e8_4@newsfeed>...

    Quoted message said:

    My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in America. But it
    must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach Ambush, or
    the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show of the year with lots of
    big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    --

    In the New York Times article about OLN and the TdF, the CEO of OLN said that it was their Super
    Bowl--and apparently they are treating it as such by using it to promote other OLN shows.

    One of the reasons that special, expensive and unusual event coverage is useful for networks is that
    it gives them a chance to do promos for other shows to a much wider than usual audience. To get the
    same number of eyeballs for the Beach Ambush promo, OLN would have to pay significant dough.

  12. Actually, this TdF has been a big coup for OLN, and I would guess the advertiser's are thrilled with
    the 1,000,000 viewers/day. Today's NY Times ran this article today regarding OLN's coverage:

    As Armstrong Rises, Network Rides Along By RICHARD SANDOMIR

    he Outdoor Life Network is a relatively modest sports channel that carries no major sports, and has
    not contemplated renaming itself something silly like Spike TV (the new name for TNN). But each July
    since 2001, OLN has reached beyond rodeo, fishing and team sniper shooting contests to carry the
    Tour de France.

    Thanks to Lance Armstrong, the Tour is generating more interest, especially in the United States,
    than ever before, and it is the type of programming that can stamp a network's name in viewers'
    minds in the same way "Biography" helped give A&E an identity.

    OLN's daily live Tour coverage (the successor to taped highlight shows by ESPN and ABC) proves that
    a niche sport - with an astonishing American star - can become a network's signature event.

    "This is the kind of programming that people will want to find on their dial," Roger Williams, OLN's
    president, said yesterday by telephone from Bordeaux, France. But OLN isn't widely available, even
    in the expanding digital cable universe. With 54 million subscribers, it is more than 30 million
    short of ESPN's subscriber base.

    OLN began its Tour coverage in 2001 as part of a four-year deal, then extended the agreement in late
    2002 through the end of the decade. OLN's first Tour coincided with Armstrong's third consecutive
    victory. The network would be a primary beneficiary of what could be Armstrong's fifth straight
    victory when this year's event concludes Sunday in Paris.

    The 30.4-mile individual time trial tomorrow (on OLN at 9 a.m. Eastern) is considered crucial to
    his chances.

    "Lance is to the Tour what Michael Jordan was to the N.B.A.," Williams said.

    Last year, between live coverage and replays, OLN generated a 0.8 Nielsen rating (or 336,000 TV
    households). The network had 42 million subscribers at the time. Now, with its subscriber rolls up
    to 54 million, the 1.9 rating equals 1 million homes.

    But a post-Lance falloff may be inevitable, similar to the drop in ratings for pro basketball during
    Jordan's retirements.

    Williams is planning beyond 2004, when Armstrong may ride his last Tour. He is hoping to create a
    series of regional races in conjunction with the International Cycling Union and Amaury Sports
    Organization, the Tour's rights holder, to identify the next American stars, and to bring the first
    three or four stages of the Tour to the United States.

    The Tour is the signature event on a network that has purposely avoided signing expensive deals to
    carry traditional sports. "I knew there was an abundance of product to buy without being held
    hostage by the major rights holders," said Williams, a former head of sales and marketing at ESPN.

    In a way, OLN is a huge version of the early "Wide World of Sports" on ABC, which was filled with
    events like barrel jumping and Acapulco cliff diving that no other network wanted or knew about.

    Cliff diving is now seen on OLN, and this year the network began carrying the Professional Bull
    Riders' Built Ford Tough Series.

    It wanted another event in July to "extend the bull franchise," as Williams put it. The result was
    nightly coverage of the running of the bulls in Pamplona, Spain, complete with opening and closing
    ceremonies and the first continuous American coverage of the event.

    One requirement of OLN's deal with Amaury is to buy time on a broadcast network for a weekly
    highlights show. CBS takes over on the Tour's three Sundays with a taped summary of the week's
    events, and is the first to show the final stage into Paris (Sunday from 5 to 6 p.m.).

    OLN will follow from 8 to 11 p.m. with taped coverage of the stage. In 2005, Williams said, the
    network will shift to live Sunday coverage, figuring the audience is different for each of its
    productions.

    "The CBS version is for casual viewers, with the emphasis on stories,'' said Victor Frank, the
    coordinating producer of CBS's coverage. "Our approach is not for people who want to sit through two
    or three hours of cycling every day, but in a format that extracts all the drama."

    Since late in the first week, OLN has also taken less knowledgeable viewers into consideration,
    explaining the language of cycling in more novice terms.

    CBS's Tour ratings have jumped 17 percent from last year; last week's program attracted an average
    of two million viewers.

    Like OLN, CBS has hit a storytelling jackpot this year, chiefly because of Armstrong's attempt to
    win his fifth Tour in a row, but also because of the American Tyler Hamilton's decision to
    continue riding despite a broken collarbone. Armstrong's lead has come despite two falls, and one
    narrowly averted crash, which Armen Keteyian, the narrator of CBS's coverage, said had only
    increased his appeal.

    "Now we've seen the mortality of Lance Armstrong," he said.

    Armstrong's 67-second lead after 17 stages is less than a fifth of his average advantage at that
    point in the past four Tours.

    Frank noted that Armstrong's victory last year was almost a stroll. "This year he hasn't had an easy
    moment,'' he said. "But I think this is exactly the way he wants it."

    If it's not Armstrong's desire, it is certainly CBS's and OLN's.

    "John Baughman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f2001e8_4@newsfeed...

    Quoted message said:

    My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in America. But it
    must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach Ambush, or
    the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the year with lots of big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    --

    - - - John - - -
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    John Baughman - Ohio State, Class of ' 72
    P.O. Box 153 PLacida, FL 33946 www.FreeWheels.itgo.com Mo-Town Forever!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  13. Actually, this TdF has been a big coup for OLN, and I would guess the advertiser's are thrilled with
    the 1,000,000 viewers/day. Today's NY Times ran this article today regarding OLN's coverage:

    As Armstrong Rises, Network Rides Along By RICHARD SANDOMIR

    he Outdoor Life Network is a relatively modest sports channel that carries no major sports, and has
    not contemplated renaming itself something silly like Spike TV (the new name for TNN). But each July
    since 2001, OLN has reached beyond rodeo, fishing and team sniper shooting contests to carry the
    Tour de France.

    Thanks to Lance Armstrong, the Tour is generating more interest, especially in the United States,
    than ever before, and it is the type of programming that can stamp a network's name in viewers'
    minds in the same way "Biography" helped give A&E an identity.

    OLN's daily live Tour coverage (the successor to taped highlight shows by ESPN and ABC) proves that
    a niche sport - with an astonishing American star - can become a network's signature event.

    "This is the kind of programming that people will want to find on their dial," Roger Williams, OLN's
    president, said yesterday by telephone from Bordeaux, France. But OLN isn't widely available, even
    in the expanding digital cable universe. With 54 million subscribers, it is more than 30 million
    short of ESPN's subscriber base.

    OLN began its Tour coverage in 2001 as part of a four-year deal, then extended the agreement in late
    2002 through the end of the decade. OLN's first Tour coincided with Armstrong's third consecutive
    victory. The network would be a primary beneficiary of what could be Armstrong's fifth straight
    victory when this year's event concludes Sunday in Paris.

    The 30.4-mile individual time trial tomorrow (on OLN at 9 a.m. Eastern) is considered crucial to
    his chances.

    "Lance is to the Tour what Michael Jordan was to the N.B.A.," Williams said.

    Last year, between live coverage and replays, OLN generated a 0.8 Nielsen rating (or 336,000 TV
    households). The network had 42 million subscribers at the time. Now, with its subscriber rolls up
    to 54 million, the 1.9 rating equals 1 million homes.

    But a post-Lance falloff may be inevitable, similar to the drop in ratings for pro basketball during
    Jordan's retirements.

    Williams is planning beyond 2004, when Armstrong may ride his last Tour. He is hoping to create a
    series of regional races in conjunction with the International Cycling Union and Amaury Sports
    Organization, the Tour's rights holder, to identify the next American stars, and to bring the first
    three or four stages of the Tour to the United States.

    The Tour is the signature event on a network that has purposely avoided signing expensive deals to
    carry traditional sports. "I knew there was an abundance of product to buy without being held
    hostage by the major rights holders," said Williams, a former head of sales and marketing at ESPN.

    In a way, OLN is a huge version of the early "Wide World of Sports" on ABC, which was filled with
    events like barrel jumping and Acapulco cliff diving that no other network wanted or knew about.

    Cliff diving is now seen on OLN, and this year the network began carrying the Professional Bull
    Riders' Built Ford Tough Series.

    It wanted another event in July to "extend the bull franchise," as Williams put it. The result was
    nightly coverage of the running of the bulls in Pamplona, Spain, complete with opening and closing
    ceremonies and the first continuous American coverage of the event.

    One requirement of OLN's deal with Amaury is to buy time on a broadcast network for a weekly
    highlights show. CBS takes over on the Tour's three Sundays with a taped summary of the week's
    events, and is the first to show the final stage into Paris (Sunday from 5 to 6 p.m.).

    OLN will follow from 8 to 11 p.m. with taped coverage of the stage. In 2005, Williams said, the
    network will shift to live Sunday coverage, figuring the audience is different for each of its
    productions.

    "The CBS version is for casual viewers, with the emphasis on stories,'' said Victor Frank, the
    coordinating producer of CBS's coverage. "Our approach is not for people who want to sit through two
    or three hours of cycling every day, but in a format that extracts all the drama."

    Since late in the first week, OLN has also taken less knowledgeable viewers into consideration,
    explaining the language of cycling in more novice terms.

    CBS's Tour ratings have jumped 17 percent from last year; last week's program attracted an average
    of two million viewers.

    Like OLN, CBS has hit a storytelling jackpot this year, chiefly because of Armstrong's attempt to
    win his fifth Tour in a row, but also because of the American Tyler Hamilton's decision to
    continue riding despite a broken collarbone. Armstrong's lead has come despite two falls, and one
    narrowly averted crash, which Armen Keteyian, the narrator of CBS's coverage, said had only
    increased his appeal.

    "Now we've seen the mortality of Lance Armstrong," he said.

    Armstrong's 67-second lead after 17 stages is less than a fifth of his average advantage at that
    point in the past four Tours.

    Frank noted that Armstrong's victory last year was almost a stroll. "This year he hasn't had an easy
    moment,'' he said. "But I think this is exactly the way he wants it."

    If it's not Armstrong's desire, it is certainly CBS's and OLN's.

    "John Baughman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f2001e8_4@newsfeed...

    Quoted message said:

    My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in America. But it
    must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach Ambush, or
    the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the year with lots of big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    --

    - - - John - - -
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    John Baughman - Ohio State, Class of ' 72
    P.O. Box 153 PLacida, FL 33946 www.FreeWheels.itgo.com Mo-Town Forever!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  14. Actually, this TdF has been a big coup for OLN, and I would guess the advertiser's are thrilled with
    the 1,000,000 viewers/day. Today's NY Times ran this article today regarding OLN's coverage:

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    As Armstrong Rises, Network Rides Along By RICHARD SANDOMIR

    he Outdoor Life Network is a relatively modest sports channel that carries no major sports, and has
    not contemplated renaming itself something silly like Spike TV (the new name for TNN). But each July
    since 2001, OLN has reached beyond rodeo, fishing and team sniper shooting contests to carry the
    Tour de France.

    Thanks to Lance Armstrong, the Tour is generating more interest, especially in the United States,
    than ever before, and it is the type of programming that can stamp a network's name in viewers'
    minds in the same way "Biography" helped give A&E an identity.

    OLN's daily live Tour coverage (the successor to taped highlight shows by ESPN and ABC) proves that
    a niche sport - with an astonishing American star - can become a network's signature event.

    "This is the kind of programming that people will want to find on their dial," Roger Williams, OLN's
    president, said yesterday by telephone from Bordeaux, France. But OLN isn't widely available, even
    in the expanding digital cable universe. With 54 million subscribers, it is more than 30 million
    short of ESPN's subscriber base.

    OLN began its Tour coverage in 2001 as part of a four-year deal, then extended the agreement in late
    2002 through the end of the decade. OLN's first Tour coincided with Armstrong's third consecutive
    victory. The network would be a primary beneficiary of what could be Armstrong's fifth straight
    victory when this year's event concludes Sunday in Paris.

    The 30.4-mile individual time trial tomorrow (on OLN at 9 a.m. Eastern) is considered crucial to
    his chances.

    "Lance is to the Tour what Michael Jordan was to the N.B.A.," Williams said.

    Last year, between live coverage and replays, OLN generated a 0.8 Nielsen rating (or 336,000 TV
    households). The network had 42 million subscribers at the time. Now, with its subscriber rolls up
    to 54 million, the 1.9 rating equals 1 million homes.

    But a post-Lance falloff may be inevitable, similar to the drop in ratings for pro basketball during
    Jordan's retirements.

    Williams is planning beyond 2004, when Armstrong may ride his last Tour. He is hoping to create a
    series of regional races in conjunction with the International Cycling Union and Amaury Sports
    Organization, the Tour's rights holder, to identify the next American stars, and to bring the first
    three or four stages of the Tour to the United States.

    The Tour is the signature event on a network that has purposely avoided signing expensive deals to
    carry traditional sports. "I knew there was an abundance of product to buy without being held
    hostage by the major rights holders," said Williams, a former head of sales and marketing at ESPN.

    In a way, OLN is a huge version of the early "Wide World of Sports" on ABC, which was filled with
    events like barrel jumping and Acapulco cliff diving that no other network wanted or knew about.

    Cliff diving is now seen on OLN, and this year the network began carrying the Professional Bull
    Riders' Built Ford Tough Series.

    It wanted another event in July to "extend the bull franchise," as Williams put it. The result was
    nightly coverage of the running of the bulls in Pamplona, Spain, complete with opening and closing
    ceremonies and the first continuous American coverage of the event.

    One requirement of OLN's deal with Amaury is to buy time on a broadcast network for a weekly
    highlights show. CBS takes over on the Tour's three Sundays with a taped summary of the week's
    events, and is the first to show the final stage into Paris (Sunday from 5 to 6 p.m.).

    OLN will follow from 8 to 11 p.m. with taped coverage of the stage. In 2005, Williams said, the
    network will shift to live Sunday coverage, figuring the audience is different for each of its
    productions.

    "The CBS version is for casual viewers, with the emphasis on stories,'' said Victor Frank, the
    coordinating producer of CBS's coverage. "Our approach is not for people who want to sit through two
    or three hours of cycling every day, but in a format that extracts all the drama."

    Since late in the first week, OLN has also taken less knowledgeable viewers into consideration,
    explaining the language of cycling in more novice terms.

    CBS's Tour ratings have jumped 17 percent from last year; last week's program attracted an average
    of two million viewers.

    Like OLN, CBS has hit a storytelling jackpot this year, chiefly because of Armstrong's attempt to
    win his fifth Tour in a row, but also because of the American Tyler Hamilton's decision to
    continue riding despite a broken collarbone. Armstrong's lead has come despite two falls, and one
    narrowly averted crash, which Armen Keteyian, the narrator of CBS's coverage, said had only
    increased his appeal.

    "Now we've seen the mortality of Lance Armstrong," he said.

    Armstrong's 67-second lead after 17 stages is less than a fifth of his average advantage at that
    point in the past four Tours.

    Frank noted that Armstrong's victory last year was almost a stroll. "This year he hasn't had an easy
    moment,'' he said. "But I think this is exactly the way he wants it."

    If it's not Armstrong's desire, it is certainly CBS's and OLN's.

    "John Baughman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f2001e8_4@newsfeed...

    Quoted message said:

    My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in America. But it
    must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach Ambush, or
    the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the year with lots of big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

    --

    - - - John - - -
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    John Baughman - Ohio State, Class of ' 72
    P.O. Box 153 PLacida, FL 33946 www.FreeWheels.itgo.com Mo-Town Forever!
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  15. Actually, this TdF has been a big coup for OLN, and I would guess the advertiser's are thrilled with
    the 1,000,000 viewers/day. Today's NY Times ran this article today regarding OLN's coverage:

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    As Armstrong Rises, Network Rides Along By RICHARD SANDOMIR

    he Outdoor Life Network is a relatively modest sports channel that carries no major sports, and has
    not contemplated renaming itself something silly like Spike TV (the new name for TNN). But each July
    since 2001, OLN has reached beyond rodeo, fishing and team sniper shooting contests to carry the
    Tour de France.

    Thanks to Lance Armstrong, the Tour is generating more interest, especially in the United States,
    than ever before, and it is the type of programming that can stamp a network's name in viewers'
    minds in the same way "Biography" helped give A&E an identity.

    OLN's daily live Tour coverage (the successor to taped highlight shows by ESPN and ABC) proves that
    a niche sport - with an astonishing American star - can become a network's signature event.

    "This is the kind of programming that people will want to find on their dial," Roger Williams, OLN's
    president, said yesterday by telephone from Bordeaux, France. But OLN isn't widely available, even
    in the expanding digital cable universe. With 54 million subscribers, it is more than 30 million
    short of ESPN's subscriber base.

    OLN began its Tour coverage in 2001 as part of a four-year deal, then extended the agreement in late
    2002 through the end of the decade. OLN's first Tour coincided with Armstrong's third consecutive
    victory. The network would be a primary beneficiary of what could be Armstrong's fifth straight
    victory when this year's event concludes Sunday in Paris.

    The 30.4-mile individual time trial tomorrow (on OLN at 9 a.m. Eastern) is considered crucial to
    his chances.

    "Lance is to the Tour what Michael Jordan was to the N.B.A.," Williams said.

    Last year, between live coverage and replays, OLN generated a 0.8 Nielsen rating (or 336,000 TV
    households). The network had 42 million subscribers at the time. Now, with its subscriber rolls up
    to 54 million, the 1.9 rating equals 1 million homes.

    But a post-Lance falloff may be inevitable, similar to the drop in ratings for pro basketball during
    Jordan's retirements.

    Williams is planning beyond 2004, when Armstrong may ride his last Tour. He is hoping to create a
    series of regional races in conjunction with the International Cycling Union and Amaury Sports
    Organization, the Tour's rights holder, to identify the next American stars, and to bring the first
    three or four stages of the Tour to the United States.

    The Tour is the signature event on a network that has purposely avoided signing expensive deals to
    carry traditional sports. "I knew there was an abundance of product to buy without being held
    hostage by the major rights holders," said Williams, a former head of sales and marketing at ESPN.

    In a way, OLN is a huge version of the early "Wide World of Sports" on ABC, which was filled with
    events like barrel jumping and Acapulco cliff diving that no other network wanted or knew about.

    Cliff diving is now seen on OLN, and this year the network began carrying the Professional Bull
    Riders' Built Ford Tough Series.

    It wanted another event in July to "extend the bull franchise," as Williams put it. The result was
    nightly coverage of the running of the bulls in Pamplona, Spain, complete with opening and closing
    ceremonies and the first continuous American coverage of the event.

    One requirement of OLN's deal with Amaury is to buy time on a broadcast network for a weekly
    highlights show. CBS takes over on the Tour's three Sundays with a taped summary of the week's
    events, and is the first to show the final stage into Paris (Sunday from 5 to 6 p.m.).

    OLN will follow from 8 to 11 p.m. with taped coverage of the stage. In 2005, Williams said, the
    network will shift to live Sunday coverage, figuring the audience is different for each of its
    productions.

    "The CBS version is for casual viewers, with the emphasis on stories,'' said Victor Frank, the
    coordinating producer of CBS's coverage. "Our approach is not for people who want to sit through two
    or three hours of cycling every day, but in a format that extracts all the drama."

    Since late in the first week, OLN has also taken less knowledgeable viewers into consideration,
    explaining the language of cycling in more novice terms.

    CBS's Tour ratings have jumped 17 percent from last year; last week's program attracted an average
    of two million viewers.

    Like OLN, CBS has hit a storytelling jackpot this year, chiefly because of Armstrong's attempt to
    win his fifth Tour in a row, but also because of the American Tyler Hamilton's decision to
    continue riding despite a broken collarbone. Armstrong's lead has come despite two falls, and one
    narrowly averted crash, which Armen Keteyian, the narrator of CBS's coverage, said had only
    increased his appeal.

    "Now we've seen the mortality of Lance Armstrong," he said.

    Armstrong's 67-second lead after 17 stages is less than a fifth of his average advantage at that
    point in the past four Tours.

    Frank noted that Armstrong's victory last year was almost a stroll. "This year he hasn't had an easy
    moment,'' he said. "But I think this is exactly the way he wants it."

    If it's not Armstrong's desire, it is certainly CBS's and OLN's.

    "John Baughman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f2001e8_4@newsfeed...

    Quoted message said:

    My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in America. But it
    must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach Ambush, or
    the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

    Are they losing money on this? Last year it was their most poplular show


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the year with lots of big name advertisers like FMC etc. What gives this year?

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    - - - John - - -
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    P.O. Box 153 PLacida, FL 33946 www.FreeWheels.itgo.com Mo-Town Forever!
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  16. "Ben Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Actually, this TdF has been a big coup for OLN, and I would guess the advertiser's are thrilled
    with the 1,000,000 viewers/day. Today's NY


    Times

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    ran this article today regarding OLN's coverage:

    As Armstrong Rises, Network Rides Along By RICHARD SANDOMIR

    The Outdoor Life Network is a relatively modest sports channel that


    carries

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    no major sports

    Thank God!
    --
    Marty

  17. Ben Hughes said:

    [snip] "The CBS version is for casual viewers, with the emphasis on stories,'' said Victor Frank,
    the coordinating producer of CBS's coverage. "Our approach is not for people who want to sit
    through two or three hours of cycling every day, but in a format that extracts all the drama."


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Like a tooth extraction. Could'na said it better, though I think he meant it differently.

    Mark Janeba

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    > Even if the movie sucks, Angelina Jolie is Hot.

    "There is more tension in Jolie's T-shirts than in the dramatic


    action."

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    -- Kirk Honeycutt, HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

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    Sweet.

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    I'm going.

    Please send me a matching donation...

    For telling me not to go?

  19. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > Even if the movie sucks, Angelina Jolie is Hot.
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    > "There is more tension in Jolie's T-shirts than in the dramatic


    action."

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    > -- Kirk Honeycutt, HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

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    Sweet.

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    I'm going.

    Please send me a matching donation...

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    For telling me not to go?

    For giving you the low down skivvy on Jolie's fans, the critics...

  20. Yes, hats off to OLN. Thanks OLN.

    "John Baughman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<3f2001e8_4@newsfeed>...

    Quoted message said:

    My hat's off to OLN for bringing the TdF to the unwashed masses of us over here in America. But it
    must not be too popular, else why is OLN running "filler" advertising slots of Beach Ambush, or
    the "Bob Roll is a nut" thing?

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