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  1. montygram said:

    I'd prefer to let the evidence speak for itself.

    Yeah, right, sure. Taking a closer look at this post of yours, I find
    that it is total hot air, or B/S. And, I do NOT mind saying so either.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm trying to show you all that there is
    an underlying mechanism involved in "chronic disease" that is directly
    tied to real, basic science.

    I was once attacked on smn for using the term "chronic disease"
    recklessly as you have above. Your use of "chronic disease" highlights
    your lack of knowledge of this subject.

    Quoted message said:

    Always ask for the raw data, and if you can get it ...

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha! I was once told by another air head, like yourself,
    to always email the study author for more information. Personally, I
    think that only an idiot would do what you have just suggested.

    But, what you should have said (but did NOT) was that you should always
    take a close look at the tables and figures provided in the study.
    These will always summarize the study data. This will allow you to
    eyeball the data, or to even plug the study data into your own Excel
    spreadsheet template. The authors will generally, also, make
    interesting comments in the footnotes found on these graphic tables.

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes I do a better job
    than other times, but if you read a lot of them, I think things will
    begin to make sense.

    You really sucked on this post. And, things do make a lot more sense
    once you have considered their source.

    You have my condolences.

  2. DZ said:
    montygram said:

    if you do a search in this newsgroup for montygram, you will see how
    I have tried to explain things very simply.

    Quoted message said:

    You don't respond to criticism, therefore your posts are just
    unsubstantiated opinions.

    I agree with you completely. Montygram does not respond to criticisms.

    I am not the only person to have knocked Montygram's credentials, over
    the years. See:
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/bd87b711d034073f?hl=en&
    Also:
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/ed16951236e4924d?hl=en&
    We all have raised valid criticisms of Montygram. 🙂

    Montygram's kooky positions on health are as follows.

    All "chronic diseases" are cause by the consumption of PUFAs. To
    prevent these "chronic diseases" all you have to do is meticulously
    avoid all consumption of PUFAs, and that includes Omega-3 EFAs. He
    claims that you can live a very long healthy life without any Omega-3
    EFA in their diet whatsoever. Therefore, neither the Omega-3 EFAs nor
    anyother PUFAs offer any health benefits for the mature adult. PUFAs
    are quite dangerous to your health, according to Montygram.

    Montygram calls the notion that "monounsaturated fats are good," total
    nonsense. And, that all the studies that document that olive oil offers
    health benefits are therefore totally wrong.

    The solution according to him is coconut oil. Of course, Montygram
    believes that coconut oil is bad for you too because it contains a tiny
    amount of PUFAs. Therefore, you have to be very cautious about which
    coconut oil you are consuming.

    Furthermore, Montygram says that medical scientism is wrong. And,
    nobody needs to know more about anything than the basic science of
    "free radical damage" or "lipid oxidation." Thus he claims to believe
    in the scientific method, when in reality Mongtygram only believes in
    textbook basic science NOT medical scientism or the scientific method
    that is applied to health research.

    Have I got your Quackery correct, Montygram?

    This post has been a must read about Montygram's Quackery.

  3. "montygram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I do hold a Ph.D. from a major U.S. university.


    What field; what school?

    Quoted message said:

    I've been posting here for over 3 years about my research.
    The problem you should consider is the one I encountered after several
    years on a diet of whole grains, nuts, seeds, and beans, with small
    amounts of fruits and vegetables.

    Quoted message said:

    I am still taking stomach acid and pepsin supplements, ...

    Could repeat the details of your "several years research" with
    high-protein diets, as above, and how and why that destroyed your digestive
    system to the point of being currently addicted to "digestive aids"?
    Why did it take so long for you to discover that high-protein diets are
    destructive to health?

    Laurie

  4. "Laurie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "montygram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I do hold a Ph.D. from a major U.S. university.


    What field; what school?

    Quoted message said:

    Could repeat the details of your "several years research" with
    high-protein diets, as above, and how and why that destroyed your digestive
    system to the point of being currently addicted to "digestive aids"?
    Why did it take so long for you to discover that high-protein diets are
    destructive to health?

    Laurie

    A diet high in protien damage the kidneys .

    Kam

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  5. On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:52:38 +0000 (UTC), Kamalakar Pasupuleti wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    A diet high in protien damage the kidneys .

    How high?

  6. "Enrico C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A diet high in protien damage the kidneys .

    How high?

    Over 60 percent of animal protien everyday on a regular basis
    will be putting sufficient load on the kidneys . The damage will
    be slow / fast depending on age and other related health factors .

    I have no idea how far it is true but the doctors
    in India do recommend a vegeterian diet for people with
    CAD and hypertension .

    Kam

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  7. "Enrico C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A diet high in protien damage the kidneys .

    How high?

    Over 60 percent of animal protien everyday on a regular basis
    will be putting sufficient load on the kidneys . The damage will
    be slow / fast depending on age and other related health factors .

    I have no idea how far it is true but the doctors
    in India do recommend a vegeterian diet for people with
    CAD and hypertension .

    Kam

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  8. Kamalakar Pasupuleti said:


    A diet high in protien damage the kidneys .

    Two questions:

    1) How much is "high"?

    2) Could you point me to studies showing that "high" protein diets
    damage the kidneys?

  9. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Kamalakar Pasupuleti said:

    "Laurie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "montygram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I do hold a Ph.D. from a major U.S. university.


    What field; what school?

    Quoted message said:

    Could repeat the details of your "several years research" with
    high-protein diets, as above, and how and why that destroyed your digestive
    system to the point of being currently addicted to "digestive aids"?
    Why did it take so long for you to discover that high-protein diets are
    destructive to health?

    Laurie

    A diet high in protien damage the kidneys .

    Kam

    Bullsh**.
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    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  10. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Bullsh**.

    OK , you can disagree .
    Kam

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  11. On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC), Kamalakar Pasupuleti wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on
    sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:

    "Enrico C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A diet high in protien damage the kidneys .

    How high?

    Over 60 percent of animal protien everyday on a regular basis

    Well, that's quite a lot! 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    will be putting sufficient load on the kidneys . The damage will
    be slow / fast depending on age and other related health factors .

    I have no idea how far it is true but the doctors
    in India do recommend a vegeterian diet for people with
    CAD and hypertension .

    Kam

  12. OmManiPadmeOmelet, Please remind me NEVER to reply to "Kamalakar
    Pasupuleti" again.

    Kamalakar is a rude ungrateful twit, who is a few beers short of a six
    pack. 🙁

    Ah! Thats it. Kamalakar kind of reminds me of OmManiDogOmeletFace.

    Ha, Hah, Ha!

  13. "Mr-Natural-Health" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet, Please remind me NEVER to reply to "Kamalakar
    Pasupuleti" again.

    Kamalakar is a rude ungrateful twit, who is a few beers short of a six
    pack. 🙁

    Ah! Thats it. Kamalakar kind of reminds me of OmManiDogOmeletFace.

    Ha, Hah, Ha!


    What went wrong ?
    Kam

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