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  1. I know there are posts and threads about the KH and Koxx hub and
    cranksets and some people say that the old KH is good and the new
    KH/Onza is bad. This may sound like a strange question but which is the
    better crankset. The new KH/Onza set or the Old KH set?

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  2. the old crankset is ok, but you can tel it's not better coz UDC had
    loads and was selling em off.

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  3. zippy said:

    the old crankset is ok, but you can tel it's not better coz UDC had
    loads and was selling em off.

    mmm nah thats not realy a good piece of evidence

    i have the old KH and qu-ax 127 cranks, many people say that this is
    strounger then the new KH hun and cranks, also i didnt have some £100+
    to spend at the time

    urmmm there are people on this forum that know a LOT more about this
    then me, and use the search you might find somthing

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  4. The new one is certainly lighter. And having ridden both on a muni for
    some time i prefer the new one, it inspires more confidence in me.
    However, I am just one person, I'm sure alot of poeple will come on
    here and say how that they broke the new set but not the old set proves
    that the old one is far superiour. That is one incidence however, and
    one incidence proves nothing.

    There were some issues with the new ones when they came out, the first
    batches used thinner metal in the cranks, this has now been increased
    to 1.6 from 1.4mm i think, and there have been fewer problems. It just
    seems so unlikely to me that the new set is genuinely weaker, why on
    earth would KH choose to do that? After all, he has to ride the thing.

    Personally if it was an equal choice I would go for the new one hands
    down, but if i wanted to save some cash I would certainly consider the
    old one, it served me well for several years.

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  5. I'd heard that the crank thickness was increased. Has anyone easily
    bent their 1.6mm cranks? I just looked at mine and don't see any
    markings to tell what thickness they are. Is there a way to tell? The
    biggest drops I've done are about 30" to flat without great technique,
    with no problems. I weigh 200lbs. I don't plan to ever do any bigger
    drops, so my KH crank/hub set works great for me.

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  6. I don't believe there's any way to tell which type you have. I believe
    both my muni and trials have the old cranks but I'm not exactly
    worried, I would never drop more than 4 feet.

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  7. It was only the first batch of cranks that were 1.4mm and now all of the
    cranks produced are 1.6mm. The stories of peoples cranks bending so
    easily was probably because they had 1.4mm cranks not the 1.6mm.

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  8. I like my old KH setup but the new is certainly lighter and arguably
    stronger...but like dale, i didnt have $250 to spend when i got
    them...Still they have more than met my expectations, 3 foot drops to
    flat at 230lbs and still staright as pins, good in my books.

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  9. I've been riding the new KH hub/cranks and they will probably hold up to
    everything I do and more.I've done 4 and 1/2 foot drops to flat
    concreet and they have held up fine. True, I'm about half the weight of
    most of the people on this forum.

    edit: also, I like the new KH cranks more for when you stand on them
    for leg wraps and tricks like that.

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  10. pdc said:

    I'd heard that the crank thickness was increased. Has anyone easily
    bent their 1.6mm cranks? I just looked at mine and don't see any
    markings to tell what thickness they are. Is there a way to tell? The
    biggest drops I've done are about 30" to flat without great technique,
    with no problems. I weigh 200lbs. I don't plan to ever do any bigger
    drops, so my KH crank/hub set works great for me.

    Thats one huge drop Phil.

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  11. pdc said:

    I'd heard that the crank thickness was increased. Has anyone easily
    bent their 1.6mm cranks? I just looked at mine and don't see any
    markings to tell what thickness they are. Is there a way to tell? The
    biggest drops I've done are about 30" to flat without great technique,
    with no problems. I weigh 200lbs. I don't plan to ever do any bigger
    drops, so my KH crank/hub set works great for me.

    Yeah i think they where changed from 1.6 to 1.8

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  12. musketman said:

    Yeah i think they where changed from 1.6 to 1.8

    Is it correct then, that they started at 1.4, then went to 1.6 and now
    to 1.8?

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  13. musketman said:

    Yeah i think they where changed from 1.6 to 1.8

    Is it correct then, that they started at 1.4, then went to 1.6 and now
    to 1.8?

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  14. No I believe there was only one change, either from 1.4 to 1.6 or 1.6 to
    1.8, if anyone can be bothered to look out the thread on the 06 KH
    danger_uni specified exactly what had been done.

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  15. No I believe there was only one change, either from 1.4 to 1.6 or 1.6 to
    1.8, if anyone can be bothered to look out the thread on the 06 KH
    danger_uni specified exactly what had been done.

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  16. It was from 1.4 to 1.6.

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  17. It was from 1.4 to 1.6.

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  18. Is '-this-' (http://tinyurl.com/esqxd) what you wanted?

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    Good point. One of the best things about primarily selling online is that there is a lot more flexibility with changing things more quickly than just annually. In 2005 these somewhat subtle changes happened on the 2005 unis, from January to late September shipments:
    -thickness of the crank tubing increased from 1.6 to 1.8mm (next shipment to unicycle.com arriving late fall)
    -same weight but stronger seatpost clamp (changed late Sept)
    -foam thickness reduced on rear of saddles by 10mm, plus dual density foam.
    -increased saddle strength (early 2005)
    -seatpost strength was improved, with double tubing thickness in the top 4"
    -slightly rougher surface on the KH bike-type seatpost (for the KH24 and KH29) (upcoming late Fall shipment) to help it grip better in the seatpost tube.

    So there will be improvements ongoing in 2006 but rather than have a "2006 unicycle" I would rather implement upgrades as soon as they are developed and properly tested.

    Kris
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    He said it went from 1.6 to 1.8, but was from 2005.

    So if he said they went 1.6 to 1.8 in 2005, and agian increased the
    thickness for later models of the 2006 models, that would mean 1.8 to a
    2.

    Unless he went back to a smaller size in the 2006 then changed them
    back agian like the change made in 2005, but why would you do that?

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