Oh dear - "wear a helmet" advert just aired on Channel 4



> It depends. The VAT man thinks so. But then he wanted to call Jaffa
> cakes biscuits, so what does he know?

Yebbut have you tried leaving a jaffa cake long enough to see whether it
goes hard or soft when stale? They last about 5 minutes before I crack and
devour the lot.
 
Mark Thompson wrote:
>> It depends. The VAT man thinks so. But then he wanted to call Jaffa
>> cakes biscuits, so what does he know?
>
> Yebbut have you tried leaving a jaffa cake long enough to see whether
> it goes hard or soft when stale? They last about 5 minutes before I
> crack and devour the lot.

That's no evidence either way: viz. Fox's Ginger Crunch Creams and Cadbury's
Mini Rolls

Actually, I can and do leave Jaffa Cakes. They play up my digestion. Sadly.
--
Ambrose
 
> That's no evidence either way: viz. Fox's Ginger Crunch Creams and
> Cadbury's Mini Rolls

What, the FGCCs go hard and the mini rolls soft when stale?
 
Mark Thompson wrote:
>> That's no evidence either way: viz. Fox's Ginger Crunch Creams and
>> Cadbury's Mini Rolls
>
> What, the FGCCs go hard and the mini rolls soft when stale?

No, both disappear within 5 minutes of opening.

--
Ambrose
 
MichaelB wrote:
> Whats the problem? Helmets are a safety device. Why not welcome them
> to be encouraged?

Why not indeed, but...

Where's the campaign to promote cycle training?

Where's the campaign to promote cycle maintenance and ensuring that
bikes are roadworthy?

Is it a coincidence that there is no lobby group with a commercial
interest in either of these aspects of cycling?

d.
 
Ambrose Nankivell wrote:
> Actually, I can and do leave Jaffa Cakes. They play up my digestion. Sadly.

Shame - Jaffa Cakes are great energy food. I got through two whole
packets on the Kennet Valley Run last month, as well as a whole loaf of
Soreen.

d.
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:25:51 -0000 someone who may be "Ambrose
Nankivell" <[email protected]> wrote this:-

>>> Whats the problem? Helmets are a safety device. Why not welcome
>>> them to be encouraged?
>>
>> Your second sentence is a contraversial point,
>
>It depends. The VAT man thinks so.

Gordon Brown wanted to be seen doing something for cycling, so he
decreed this. He may or may not have thought it was a safety device.
He was certainly being lobbied by the helmet lobby on the issue and
probably calculated that he could be seen to be doing a good thing
without losing too much money.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54
 
David Hansen wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:25:51 -0000 someone who definitely is "Ambrose
> Nankivell" <[email protected]> wrote this:-
>
>>>> Whats the problem? Helmets are a safety device. Why not welcome
>>>> them to be encouraged?
>>>
>>> Your second sentence is a contraversial point,
>>
>> It depends. The VAT man thinks so.
>
> Gordon Brown wanted to be seen doing something for cycling, so he
> decreed this. He may or may not have thought it was a safety device.
> He was certainly being lobbied by the helmet lobby on the issue and
> probably calculated that he could be seen to be doing a good thing
> without losing too much money.

Thanks. I know you can always be relied on to expand my dry comments into
entire paragraphs. I try not to feel that it appears you're correcting me,
as that would be classed as mind reading, obviously.

--
Ambrose
 
In article <[email protected]>, davek
([email protected]) wrote:
> Ambrose Nankivell wrote:
> > Actually, I can and do leave Jaffa Cakes. They play up my digestion. Sadly.
>
> Shame - Jaffa Cakes are great energy food. I got through two whole
> packets on the Kennet Valley Run last month, as well as a whole loaf of
> Soreen.

Blimey! I got through on a cereal bar and a pork pie, at least as far
as Stuff That Needs Chewing goes.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
There's a village in Texas that's missing its idiot.
 
davek wrote:
> Ambrose Nankivell wrote:
> > Actually, I can and do leave Jaffa Cakes. They play up my digestion. Sadly.
>
> Shame - Jaffa Cakes are great energy food. I got through two whole
> packets on the Kennet Valley Run last month, as well as a whole loaf of
> Soreen.

My problem is I get through far too many of them just thinking about
routes, rather than riding them.

...d
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:08:46 -0000 someone who may be "Ambrose
Nankivell" <[email protected]> wrote this:-

>I try not to feel that it appears you're correcting me,

Should I wish to correct you I am perfectly capable of doing so and
making this clear. In this case I didn't.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54
 
> My problem is I get through far too many of them just thinking about
> routes, rather than riding them.

Mmmm, I've got through hald a packet just catching up on this thread. If
anyone needs an excuse, they've got different flavours now <licks lips>.
 
Mark Thompson wrote:
>> My problem is I get through far too many of them just
>> thinking about routes, rather than riding them.
>
> Mmmm, I've got through hald a packet just catching up on this
> thread. If anyone needs an excuse, they've got different
> flavours now <licks lips>.

Lime is nice.
--
Cheers
the.Mark
 
Mark Thompson wrote:
>> My problem is I get through far too many of them just thinking about
>> routes, rather than riding them.
>
> Mmmm, I've got through hald a packet just catching up on this thread. If
> anyone needs an excuse, they've got different flavours now <licks lips>.

The French have at least 6, usually called Pim's.

Il existe 6 variantes du gâteau: orange (l'original), poire, framboaaze
(le meilleur selon les hardcore-fans), pamplemousse rose (une édition
limitée), mousse au chocolat & noisettes, et mousse au café. Chacun se
présente de la même façon: une génoise ferme, surmontée d'une marmelade
de fruit (ou d'une mousse) et recouverte d'un chocolat croquant.

I've also had coconut ones.

JimP
 
Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Any idea to whom we complain?

ASA. It will fail. They are allowed to lie, as long as it's in "a
good cause".

Guy
 
MichaelB <[email protected]> wrote:

> Whats the problem? Helmets are a safety device. Why not welcome
> themto be encouraged?-- MichaelB

Are yoiu /sure/ that's Michael and not Matt??
 
So is the perceived wisdom here that they're necessary for safety? I've
never worn one as I hate the idea of anything on me 'ead!
 
Trevor wrote:
> So is the perceived wisdom here that they're necessary for safety?

They're not.

Have a google back at this group at google groups if you want more (a
*lot* more) on the subject.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
 
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