Oh boy..... Another HS standard.

On 22 Jun 2006 16:04:48 -0700, "Llatikcuf" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/10027.0.html

"The oversized set up noticeably increases front-end stiffness over the
Six13 by allowing Cannondale to use an oversized round down tube and
ovalized top tube."

They should be sponsored by Pfizer - The Cannondale Viagra.

-nate

I'm assuming it's an MTB 1.5" lower bearing. The combination of a
1.25" lower with a 1.125" upper has been used by Isaac for a few years
now, so Cannondale have just gone one louder.

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

Kinky Cowboy wrote:
---snip---

Quoted message said:

I'm assuming it's an MTB 1.5" lower bearing. The combination of a
1.25" lower with a 1.125" upper has been used by Isaac for a few years
now, so Cannondale have just gone one louder.

---/snip---

Doesn't Ridley do the same thing?

SYJ

SYJ said:

Kinky Cowboy wrote:
---snip---

Quoted message said:

I'm assuming it's an MTB 1.5" lower bearing. The combination of a
1.25" lower with a 1.125" upper has been used by Isaac for a few years
now, so Cannondale have just gone one louder.

---/snip---

Doesn't Ridley do the same thing?

Quite possibly - principia have some bikes with differential sized HS
bearings too, using the Isaac fork, so there's probably some
conspiracy going on - called "The Ellipse Project"

Was anybody really having that much of a problem with 1" forks and
conventional headsets on road bikes?

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

Llatikcuf said:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/10027.0.html

"The oversized set up noticeably increases front-end stiffness over the
Six13 by allowing Cannondale to use an oversized round down tube and
ovalized top tube."

They should be sponsored by Pfizer - The Cannondale Viagra.

-nate

Another example of marketing bugle-oil...how do they know it 'increases
front end stiffness' unless they had an identical frame with a 1
1/8inch 'standard' hs??

More BS in bikes, what else is new...

Kinky Cowboy said:

SYJ said:

Kinky Cowboy wrote:
---snip---

Quoted message said:

I'm assuming it's an MTB 1.5" lower bearing. The combination of a
1.25" lower with a 1.125" upper has been used by Isaac for a few years
now, so Cannondale have just gone one louder.

---/snip---

Doesn't Ridley do the same thing?

Quite possibly - principia have some bikes with differential sized HS
bearings too, using the Isaac fork, so there's probably some
conspiracy going on - called "The Ellipse Project"

Was anybody really having that much of a problem with 1" forks and
conventional headsets on road bikes?

Kinky Cowboy*

reality, what a concept..once more something that is different and with
a BS claim that it's 'stiffer' implies that the old 'standard' w'as
somehow soft, flexy, prone to failure..whether it be HS, forks, stems,
cranks, BBs, pedal spindles, handlebars, seatposts, bike frames,
wheels, etc, blah, blah, blah....

"Llatikcuf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/10027.0.html

"The oversized set up noticeably increases front-end stiffness over the
Six13 by allowing Cannondale to use an oversized round down tube and
ovalized top tube."

They should be sponsored by Pfizer - The Cannondale Viagra.

-nate

The only possible non-marketing in that article is that a round tube is the
best shape at resisting torsion. That is probably more by accident rather
than design.

Skippy
E&OE

In article <[email hidden]>,

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Kinky Cowboy said:

SYJ said:

Kinky Cowboy wrote: ---snip---
>
> I'm assuming it's an MTB 1.5" lower bearing. The combination of
> a 1.25" lower with a 1.125" upper has been used by Isaac for a
> few years now, so Cannondale have just gone one louder.
---/snip---

Doesn't Ridley do the same thing?

Quite possibly - principia have some bikes with differential sized
HS bearings too, using the Isaac fork, so there's probably some
conspiracy going on - called "The Ellipse Project"

Was anybody really having that much of a problem with 1" forks and
conventional headsets on road bikes?

Kinky Cowboy*

reality, what a concept..once more something that is different and
with a BS claim that it's 'stiffer' implies that the old 'standard'
w'as somehow soft, flexy, prone to failure..whether it be HS, forks,
stems, cranks, BBs, pedal spindles, handlebars, seatposts, bike
frames, wheels, etc, blah, blah, blah....

It's Freudian marketing.

Kinky Cowboy said:

SYJ said:

Kinky Cowboy wrote:
---snip---

Quoted message said:

I'm assuming it's an MTB 1.5" lower bearing. The combination of a
1.25" lower with a 1.125" upper has been used by Isaac for a few years
now, so Cannondale have just gone one louder.

---/snip---

Doesn't Ridley do the same thing?

Quite possibly - principia have some bikes with differential sized HS
bearings too, using the Isaac fork, so there's probably some
conspiracy going on - called "The Ellipse Project"

Was anybody really having that much of a problem with 1" forks and
conventional headsets on road bikes?

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

And Time VXRS models use different diameters at the top and bottom
headset bearings. And don't forget TREK 5900 lightweight model did
this until 2004 I think. So Cannondale is very, very late to the game
of having a fork with non standard bearings.

On 23 Jun 2006 05:53:57 -0700, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Kinky Cowboy said:

SYJ said:

Kinky Cowboy wrote:
---snip---
>
> I'm assuming it's an MTB 1.5" lower bearing. The combination of a
> 1.25" lower with a 1.125" upper has been used by Isaac for a few years
> now, so Cannondale have just gone one louder.
---/snip---

Doesn't Ridley do the same thing?

Quite possibly - principia have some bikes with differential sized HS
bearings too, using the Isaac fork, so there's probably some
conspiracy going on - called "The Ellipse Project"

Was anybody really having that much of a problem with 1" forks and
conventional headsets on road bikes?

Kinky Cowboy*

reality, what a concept..once more something that is different and with
a BS claim that it's 'stiffer' implies that the old 'standard' w'as
somehow soft, flexy, prone to failure..whether it be HS, forks, stems,
cranks, BBs, pedal spindles, handlebars, seatposts, bike frames,
wheels, etc, blah, blah, blah....

As if previous generations of Cannondales were somehow lacking in stiffness? I
cannot imagine that having been a problem for anyone.

Ron

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Llatikcuf said:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/10027.0.html

"The oversized set up noticeably increases front-end stiffness over the
Six13 by allowing Cannondale to use an oversized round down tube and
ovalized top tube."

They should be sponsored by Pfizer - The Cannondale Viagra.

-nate

Another example of marketing bugle-oil...how do they know it 'increases
front end stiffness' unless they had an identical frame with a 1
1/8inch 'standard' hs??

More BS in bikes, what else is new...

well, i can tell you for fact that a 1" alloy steerered reynolds ouzo
comp fork is a noodly piece of garbage compared to a 1" steel steered
look fork. so, diameter for diameter, materials make a difference. how
to bring a [lighter] alloy steerered fork up to par with a steel
predecessor? make it bigger. and that's all we're seeing. no mystery.
no b.s.