Oatmeal

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

The term refers to both rolled oats and steel cut oats. I realize this
may be confusing, however you can usually tell from the recipe which
they are referring to. In the US rolled oats require a longer cooking
time than steel cut oats if that is any help.

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In Australia we don't use the term 'oatmeal'. In recipes from the US and
Britain when it calls for this I can't work out from the photo what product
has been used. In the recent thread on oats I thought I might be able to
glean the info, but it didn't happen.

We have rolled oats, which are like your Quaker traditional rolled oats, and
we have steel cut oats. We can use both of these for porridge. There are
also the quick sort of flavoured oat mixes that nuke in a minute. We have
oat bran as well. So what is oatmeal? Is it another name for rolled oats,
or is a more refined product?

Chris

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In Australia we don't use the term 'oatmeal'. In recipes from the US and
Britain when it calls for this I can't work out from the photo what
product has been used. In the recent thread on oats I thought I might be
able to glean the info, but it didn't happen.

We have rolled oats, which are like your Quaker traditional rolled oats,
and we have steel cut oats. We can use both of these for porridge. There
are also the quick sort of flavoured oat mixes that nuke in a minute. We
have oat bran as well. So what is oatmeal? Is it another name for rolled
oats, or is a more refined product?

Chris

Here's my take. I've been eating oatmeal for as long as I can remember.

Rolled oats and oat flakes are the same. You see them mostly in the form
that you see the Qauaker traditional rolled oats that you speak about. This
is what here in the U.S. we call oatmeal. As in "I'm going to have some
oatmeal for breakfast."

This is in the form of an oatmeal that cooks in 5 minutes, (used to be we
had some flakes that even cooked 15 minutes) and then in the last few
decades, there is an 'instant' oatmeal that cooks in probably 1 minute.
I've tried it once or twice. It's really like a mush, not much taste.

If you cook these flakes only a short time as I do and not many do it this
way, the flakes stay intact. They are similar to a museli, only cooked or
basically hydrated for a short time.

Steel cut oats are probably the same all over.

Dee Dee

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Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not so
great) words of knowledge:

The term refers to both rolled oats and steel cut oats. I realize this
may be confusing, however you can usually tell from the recipe which they
are referring to. In the US rolled oats require a longer cooking time
than steel cut oats if that is any help.

Quoted message said:

In Australia we don't use the term 'oatmeal'. In recipes from the US and
Britain when it calls for this I can't work out from the photo what
product has been used. In the recent thread on oats I thought I might be
able to glean the info, but it didn't happen.

We have rolled oats, which are like your Quaker traditional rolled oats,
and we have steel cut oats. We can use both of these for porridge.
There are also the quick sort of flavoured oat mixes that nuke in a
minute. We have oat bran as well. So what is oatmeal? Is it another
name for rolled oats, or is a more refined product?

Chris

Chris, I totally disagree with the statement "US rolled oats require longer
cooking time than steel cut oats.

I cook both regularly.
Dee Dee
U.S.A.

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Rolled oats and oat flakes are the same. You see them mostly in the form
that you see the Qauaker traditional rolled oats that you speak about.
This is what here in the U.S. we call oatmeal. As in "I'm going to have
some oatmeal for breakfast."

Ok, so just to clarify, if I wanted to make the meatloaf with mushroom
gravy, that is in another thread here - where it calls for oatmeal, I use
rolled oats? Where I mainly see this term is for baked goods and the
finished pictures actually make it difficult to see the actual oat pieces.
The term oat flakes used here would have me thinking of something like
Kelloggs Corn Flakes, only oats. :-))

Chris

ChrisW said:

In Australia we don't use the term 'oatmeal'. In recipes from the US and
Britain when it calls for this I can't work out from the photo what product
has been used. In the recent thread on oats I thought I might be able to
glean the info, but it didn't happen.

We have rolled oats, which are like your Quaker traditional rolled oats, and
we have steel cut oats. We can use both of these for porridge. There are
also the quick sort of flavoured oat mixes that nuke in a minute. We have
oat bran as well. So what is oatmeal? Is it another name for rolled oats,
or is a more refined product?

Austrailia has not a whit to do with anything, yoose just talk funny
is all.

Purely semantics. Depends who you ask and in what setting. If you
ask a butcher for beef what do you think you'll receive.. a question
of course, "which cut?" If you ask for beef at the golden arches all
they can offer is ground beef pattys.. well, for the sake of this
discussion let's just assume it's beef. If you ask for oatmeal at
the stupidmarket they'll point you to the cereal aisle, where you can
pick, choose, and refuse. If you ask for oatmeal at the local greasy
spoon you'll get a bowlful of cooked (probably find a pubic hair in
it). If you ask for oatmeal south of Nashville they'll bring you
grits. But if you want a specific type of oats then you need to ask
for what type you want spcifically... so as anyone can plainly see
when someone wants a specific item it's entirely up to them to ask for
that specific item specifically. Perhaps if you educated yourself
about oats your dilemma will be resolved. Search <oats>.

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Rolled oats and oat flakes are the same. You see them mostly in the
form that you see the Qauaker traditional rolled oats that you speak
about. This is what here in the U.S. we call oatmeal. As in "I'm
going to have some oatmeal for breakfast."

Ok, so just to clarify, if I wanted to make the meatloaf with mushroom
gravy, that is in another thread here - where it calls for oatmeal, I
use rolled oats? Where I mainly see this term is for baked goods and
the finished pictures actually make it difficult to see the actual oat
pieces. The term oat flakes used here would have me thinking of
something like Kelloggs Corn Flakes, only oats. :-))

Chris

Definitely porridge oats, as far as I'm aware.

K (in Melbourne)

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Rolled oats and oat flakes are the same. You see them mostly in the form
that you see the Qauaker traditional rolled oats that you speak about.
This is what here in the U.S. we call oatmeal. As in "I'm going to have
some oatmeal for breakfast."

Ok, so just to clarify, if I wanted to make the meatloaf with mushroom
gravy, that is in another thread here - where it calls for oatmeal, I use
rolled oats? Where I mainly see this term is for baked goods and the
finished pictures actually make it difficult to see the actual oat pieces.
The term oat flakes used here would have me thinking of something like
Kelloggs Corn Flakes, only oats. :-))

Chris

There are two different terms,

oatmeal" which usually implies "cooked oatflakes."

and here is a picture of
oatflakes http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&q=oat+flakes

Now, in a meatloaf recipe which calls for oatmeal, you will have to be the
decider as to whether the formulator of the receipe actually meant cooked or
not cooked. When I used to make meatloaf (a long time ago), one used either
bread crumbs, cracker crumbs or oat FLAKES for the binder ingredient. In a
recipe it was oat 'flakes' that was used, even though the recipe called for
'oatmeal.' I can see why you are definitely confused.

Here is an example of rye flakes
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=rye+flakes&gbv=2

Here is an example of barley flakes
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&q=barley+flakes

Basically, when I make 'oatmeal' (which is cooked oatflakes), I can add
barley and/or rye flakes, if I choose, and no one will be the wiser (except
me).

When I google corn flakes, I actually do see a similar picture to the other
flakes (oat, barley and rye), but since our country (US) has used Kelloggs
and various other brands, I've never seen it, although it probably is on the
market somewhere, also.

Dee Dee

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In Australia we don't use the term 'oatmeal'. In recipes from the US and
Britain when it calls for this I can't work out from the photo what
product has been used. In the recent thread on oats I thought I might be
able to glean the info, but it didn't happen.

We have rolled oats, which are like your Quaker traditional rolled oats,
and we have steel cut oats. We can use both of these for porridge. There
are also the quick sort of flavoured oat mixes that nuke in a minute. We
have oat bran as well. So what is oatmeal? Is it another name for rolled
oats, or is a more refined product?

Chris

For meat loaf or something similar or a bread-type recipe, I would use this
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/detail.jsp?id=3489 for a heartier
porridge, I would use this
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/detail.jsp?id=3488

I hope that seeing the actual product helps.

Janet

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Rolled oats and oat flakes are the same. You see them mostly in the
form that you see the Qauaker traditional rolled oats that you speak
about. This is what here in the U.S. we call oatmeal. As in "I'm
going to have some oatmeal for breakfast."

Ok, so just to clarify, if I wanted to make the meatloaf with mushroom
gravy, that is in another thread here - where it calls for oatmeal, I
use rolled oats? Where I mainly see this term is for baked goods and
the finished pictures actually make it difficult to see the actual oat
pieces. The term oat flakes used here would have me thinking of
something like Kelloggs Corn Flakes, only oats. :-))

Chris

In general, meatloaf recipes call for uncooked rolled oats....

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Jean B.

Thank you all for your help. I am clear on what oatmeal is now.

Chris

Thank you all for your help. I am clear on what oatmeal is now.

Chris

Thank you all for your help. I am clear on what oatmeal is now.

Chris

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Rolled oats and oat flakes are the same. You see them mostly in the
form that you see the Qauaker traditional rolled oats that you speak
about. This is what here in the U.S. we call oatmeal. As in "I'm
going to have some oatmeal for breakfast."

Ok, so just to clarify, if I wanted to make the meatloaf with mushroom
gravy, that is in another thread here - where it calls for oatmeal, I
use rolled oats?

Yes.

Serene
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