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  1. An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters, moral
    dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

  2. Paul macintyre said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters, moral
    dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.
    --
    Slacker

  3. Slacker said:
    Paul macintyre said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters, moral
    dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.
    --
    Slacker


    Not out on video yet.

  4. Slacker retorted :

    Quoted message said:
    Paul macintyre said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters, moral
    dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to the
    usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The guy who
    it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of those....)

    penny

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    In article said:

    Slacker retorted :

    Quoted message said:
    Paul macintyre said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters,
    moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to
    the usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The
    guy who it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of
    those....)

    penny

    Penny,

    The two climbers that were involved are interviewed in the film, the climbing scenes are reenacted
    by actors. This is not a flashy action film but the story is compelling none the less. The Andes are
    spectacular. As a skier you'll appreciate the scenes of fluted spires and cornices of powder snow
    hanging off the mountain (evidently a condition unique to the Andes).

    Paul

  6. Paul macintyre said:

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    In article said:

    Slacker retorted :

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    Paul macintyre wrote:
    > An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters,
    > moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.
    >
    > Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to
    the usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The
    guy who it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of
    those....)

    penny

    Penny,

    The two climbers that were involved are interviewed in the film, the climbing scenes are reenacted
    by actors. This is not a flashy action film but the story is compelling none the less. The Andes
    are spectacular. As a skier you'll appreciate the scenes of fluted spires and cornices of powder
    snow hanging off the mountain (evidently a condition unique to the Andes).

    Paul


    Saw this before Xmas, the initial scenes of climbing up through on the ice walls and through the
    snow flutes gave me vertigo! It is a truly stunning film, not just the scenery, but also the
    absolutely matter of fact narration by Joe and Simon, coupled with the knowledge of what they both
    endured in their survival. The best true life film I've seen

    Martin

  7. Paul macintyre retorted :

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    Slacker retorted :

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    Paul macintyre wrote:
    > An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters,
    > moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.
    >
    > Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to
    the usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The
    guy who it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of
    those....)

    penny

    Penny,

    The two climbers that were involved are interviewed in the film, the climbing scenes are reenacted
    by actors. This is not a flashy action film but the story is compelling none the less. The Andes
    are spectacular. As a skier you'll appreciate the scenes of fluted spires and cornices of powder
    snow hanging off the mountain (evidently a condition unique to the Andes).

    Paul

    I know, I've read about it. I'm so sick off Hollywood climbing films that invoved ridiculous action
    sequences, cocaine, rocket launchers and other sillliness.

    p.

  8. Penny S said:

    Slacker retorted :

    Quoted message said:
    Paul macintyre said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters,
    moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to
    the usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The
    guy who it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of
    those....)

    penny

    Isn't there also a movie/documentary about Everest climb when several climbers died on?

    I don't know why, but I dig climbing movies. Maybe my fear of heights has something to do with it?
    --
    Slacker

  9. Slacker retorted :

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    Penny S said:

    Slacker retorted :

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    Paul macintyre wrote:
    > An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters,
    > moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.
    >
    > Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to
    the usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The
    guy who it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of
    those....)

    penny

    Isn't there also a movie/documentary about Everest climb when several climbers died on?

    I don't know why, but I dig climbing movies. Maybe my fear of heights has something to do with it?

    Hollyweird has never made a very good one. Maybe they are good action flicks, but if you have any
    real knowledge of what's involved, they are only good for comic relief. The Imax on Everest was
    pretty decent, as is anything by NOVA, but jeez, that Vertical Limit was the worst sort of comedy as
    was that Cliffhanger w/Stallone in it.

    penny

  10. Quoted message said:

    Slacker retorted :

    Quoted message said:

    Isn't there also a movie/documentary about Everest climb when several climbers died on?

    I don't know why, but I dig climbing movies. Maybe my fear of heights has something to do
    with it?

    Hollyweird has never made a very good one. Maybe they are good action flicks, but if you have any
    real knowledge of what's involved, they are only good for comic relief. The Imax on Everest was
    pretty decent, as is anything by NOVA, but jeez, that Vertical Limit was the worst sort of comedy
    as was that Cliffhanger w/Stallone in it.

    penny

    That's the one I was thinking of, the Imax flick.

    Imax on Everest... is this the title of it?
    --
    Slacker

  11. "Paul macintyre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has


    it

    Quoted message said:

    all- disasters, moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Joe Simpson? Helluva guy, brilliant climber. I've been told I ought to read his book by the
    same name.

    Shaun aRe

  12. "Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Slacker retorted :

    Quoted message said:
    Paul macintyre said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters,
    moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to
    the usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The
    guy who it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of
    those....)

    penny

    That'l be Simpson, Brown must be in his 70's at least by now, but big in the 1950's and 60's

  13. On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:52:00 -0000, "Shaun Rimmer"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has


    it

    Quoted message said:

    all- disasters, moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Joe Simpson? Helluva guy, brilliant climber. I've been told I ought to read his book by the
    same name.

    You should. I went to see the film here at the local cinema last night
    - very good, whether one is a climber or not. I should've gone Sunday because Simon Yates (The Guy
    Who Cut The Rope, and who lives just down the road) gave a talk before the screening.

    It has to be said Yates came across (in the 'talking head' bits) as being pretty nonchalant about
    the whole episode. Inevitable, I suppose, when you've been telling the same story for the best part
    of 20 years. However, I imagine it doesn't look too good to people not familiar with the
    incident/book.

    Still reckon it would've been more exciting if they'd been carrying cannisters of TNT in their
    rucsacs, mind...

    Pete
    ----
    btinternet.com~peteajones

  14. "Pete Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:52:00 -0000, "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick


    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:

    all- disasters, moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Joe Simpson? Helluva guy, brilliant climber. I've been told I ought to


    read

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his book by the same name.

    You should. I went to see the film here at the local cinema last night
    - very good, whether one is a climber or not. I should've gone Sunday because Simon Yates (The Guy
    Who Cut The Rope, and who lives just down the road) gave a talk before the screening.

    It has to be said Yates came across (in the 'talking head' bits) as being pretty nonchalant about
    the whole episode. Inevitable, I suppose, when you've been telling the same story for the best
    part of 20 years. However, I imagine it doesn't look too good to people not familiar with the
    incident/book.

    Still reckon it would've been more exciting if they'd been carrying cannisters of TNT in their
    rucsacs, mind...

    Pete

    Lol, and don't forget IT REACTS TO THE LIGHT QUICK JUMP OVER THERE IN THE SHADE even though you've
    been walking around for half a day the next 3 seconds are critical...

    Steve.

  15. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Slacker retorted :

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    Isn't there also a movie/documentary about Everest climb when several climbers died on?

    I don't know why, but I dig climbing movies. Maybe my fear of heights has something to do
    with it?

    Hollyweird has never made a very good one. Maybe they are good action flicks, but if you have
    any real knowledge of what's involved, they are only good for comic relief. The Imax on Everest
    was pretty decent, as is anything by NOVA, but jeez, that Vertical Limit was the worst sort of
    comedy as was that Cliffhanger w/Stallone in it.

    penny

    That's the one I was thinking of, the Imax flick.

    Imax on Everest... is this the title of it?

    I'm not sure, but the book 'Into Thin Air' by Krakauer is an amazing account of the climb. I saw
    parts of the IMAX movie and overall it wasn't nearly as interesting. /s

  16. Pete Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Still reckon it would've been more exciting if they'd been carrying cannisters of TNT in their
    rucsacs, mind...

    Not a problem, unless they had blasting caps in the same rucks.

    JDemolitions

  17. "Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Slacker retorted :

    Quoted message said:
    Paul macintyre said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has it all- disasters,
    moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Paul

    Man, I really want to see this movie.

    it's supposed to be a truly realistic depiction of a climb gone wrong. Especially as compared to
    the usual Hollywood climbing movie which has my family in hysterics in the first 20 minutes. The
    guy who it's about went back to consult on the filming of it. (Joe Simpson? Joe Brown? one of
    those....)

    penny

    'The Eiger Sanction' ain't great, but it's watchable. There are some major plot clunks, along with
    some nice quiet climbing scenes. /s

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    In article <[email hidden]>, Pete Jones

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:52:00 -0000, "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick has


    it

    Quoted message said:

    all- disasters, moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Joe Simpson? Helluva guy, brilliant climber. I've been told I ought to read his book by the
    same name.

    You should. I went to see the film here at the local cinema last night
    - very good, whether one is a climber or not. I should've gone Sunday because Simon Yates (The Guy
    Who Cut The Rope, and who lives just down the road) gave a talk before the screening.

    It has to be said Yates came across (in the 'talking head' bits) as being pretty nonchalant about
    the whole episode. Inevitable, I suppose, when you've been telling the same story for the best
    part of 20 years. However, I imagine it doesn't look too good to people not familiar with the
    incident/book.

    My impression from the film was that Simon was still haunted by what he had to do. I'm not a climber
    but I don't see that he had any options but to cut the rope or die.

    Paul

  19. "Paul macintyre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

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    In article <[email hidden]>, Pete Jones

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:52:00 -0000, "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:

    > An absolutely harrowing account of survival in the Andes. This flick


    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it
    > all- disasters, moral dilemmas, perseverance and the will to live. Climbers are crazy.

    Joe Simpson? Helluva guy, brilliant climber. I've been told I ought to


    read

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his book by the same name.

    You should. I went to see the film here at the local cinema last night
    - very good, whether one is a climber or not. I should've gone Sunday because Simon Yates (The
    Guy Who Cut The Rope, and who lives just down the road) gave a talk before the screening.

    Ah, now that'd be interesting.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It has to be said Yates came across (in the 'talking head' bits) as being pretty nonchalant
    about the whole episode. Inevitable, I suppose, when you've been telling the same story for the
    best part of 20 years. However, I imagine it doesn't look too good to people not familiar with
    the incident/book.

    My impression from the film was that Simon was still haunted by what he


    had

    Quoted message said:

    to do. I'm not a climber but I don't see that he had any options but to


    cut

    Quoted message said:

    the rope or die.

    Paul

    Yup, a tough as all hell decision to have to take, but yeah, he took the right one.

    Shaun aRe

  20. On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:16:49 -0000, "Shaun Rimmer"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My impression from the film was that Simon was still haunted by what he


    had

    Quoted message said:

    to do. I'm not a climber but I don't see that he had any options but to


    cut

    Quoted message said:

    the rope or die.

    Quoted message said:

    Yup, a tough as all hell decision to have to take, but yeah, he took the right one.

    Absolutely, no criticism from me. I always make people I go climbing/cycling aware with that I'll
    cheerfully leave them to die should the situation demand it.

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