NYNY - Fred - Dec 31 2003

Thank you for that Fred, you made my year 🙂🙂

My average this week is holding well at 157.5 so far.....

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Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Good work Fred. At least it was muscle and not fat!!

Happy New Year!

How much snow did you get over the last few days???

--
Brenda
209/176/150 NYNY goal 160

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Quoted message said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

have a great new year, Lee
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Quoted message said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Good job on the muscle gain Fred. <G>

You're still nicely below both your WW goal and your personal "cushion" goal. Anyway, one week's
unofficial WI doesn't mean much in the scheme of the things, other than to show you're maintaining
awareness. Hey, maybe that's what Maintenance is really about!

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Great weigh-in anyway, Fred.. You sound really happy... yay for muscle eh?

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Quoted message said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Happy New Year Fred!! Congrats on gaining muscle onto that perfect body of yours <g>!!!

COnnie

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/210.5/155 RAFL 218/210.5/198.5

Fred said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Happy New Year to you too. Up a pound over the holidays sounds good to me. One of lifes ups and
downs. <g> Laura (who hasn't stepped on a scale in 2 weeks while away from home)

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Quoted message said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Way to go Fred, nice maintain throughout the holidays. That is definitely success in any book!
Additional muscle would not surprise me in the least, heck, I get tired just reading about your
excursions. <G>

Joyce

Fred said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

I am so happy (not) to oblige. But Congrats on holding well at 157.7.

Well, another day of skiing (new years day) under the belt or maybe over the belt. Cold - in the low
20's and cloudy but excellent snow. But it was in the teens on New Year's eve.

Today I'm dilly-dallying around and it is incredibly sunny and all around me is snow covered.

Good luck this week. Oh, today is your reporting day, right (fri)

Lesanne said:

Thank you for that Fred, you made my year 🙂🙂

My average this week is holding well at 157.5 so far.....

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Quoted message said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that
exercise last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than
new week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Ah, if only I were that confident. And, if only there were some really easy way to really determine
that. With my exercise pattern over the last week if should be muscle or only water but there is no
way to know.

Happy New Year to the northern contingent.

Brenda Hammond said:

Good work Fred. At least it was muscle and not fat!!

Happy New Year!

How much snow did you get over the last few days???

Thanks. To you and yours also

Miss Violette said:

have a great new year, Lee Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that
exercise last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than
new week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

As I wrote to Brenda, I wish there were a way to determine what's what with gains. I mean, 150 miles
of biking, about 6,000 feet and 26 miles of skiing, even with too much food (grin or sigh) should
not be a gain??? Should it??

But I am below so yup, no paying and more money for skis! (g)

I am aware but just met someone who lost about 50 pounds on WW and then regained much of it. You
would think that even with awareness this would not happen but it does and that remains scary.

I can easily, too easily, see me falling into the older patterns since I still tend to be a grazer
or nosher and can binge up a storm.

Prairie Roots said:

Good job on the muscle gain Fred. <G>

You're still nicely below both your WW goal and your personal "cushion" goal. Anyway, one week's
unofficial WI doesn't mean much in the scheme of the things, other than to show you're maintaining
awareness. Hey, maybe that's what Maintenance is really about!

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that exercise
last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than new
week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Well, I'm the "great pretender!" Not really happy about gaining but it is the real world. Still have
almost a week before the real weighin.

Happy New Year, Krisin

Kristin said:

Great weigh-in anyway, Fred.. You sound really happy... yay for muscle eh?

(blush) - less than perfect but more reasonable than last new year (G)

And happy new year to you, too.

Connie Walsh walshclan@nospam_primus.ca said:

Happy New Year Fred!! Congrats on gaining muscle onto that perfect body of yours <g>!!!

COnnie

Well, if that scale jumps up or down a full few pounds the very next morning, I assume it's pretty
safe to say THAT is water. <g> Muscle and fat though - much harder to figure.

I can also see where regaining can be very easy, I'm sure most of us here have been that route
before. Those pounds sneak up ever so slowly, we figure we will catch it in time ... what's 1 pound,
or 5, or 10 ... and before we know it ....... well, you know. I am very aware and trying hard to
practice awareness, but even so sometimes life just gets the best of me. I threw in the towel
somewhat this week, figured I would just roll with things until the kiddies were back into school
and life resumed something resembling normalcy. Yesterday was a good day, although much higher in
sodium than I'd like .. today was a great day. Sunday is *toss all the [censored] in the garbage* day ...
fudge, toffee, cookies - whatever is left is going out for the trash pickup. I can't handle it
anymore and have realized the only way I CAN deal with it is to GET IT OUT. And I will.

My weight is up a smidge, nothing to get overly excited about (as usual) - but again, that awareness
thing HAS sunk in and I know that if I don't do something immediately, it ain't gonna happen. I am
nowhere close to my danger zone and clothing fits as usual, and gain could also very well be due to
monthly timing ... doesn't much matter to me. What does matter to me is that I know I've been off
course from where I want to be, and it is definitely time to once again take control. No time to
weigh in today or yesterday, so my *official* results will be first thing in the morning (or second,
depending on how the morning goes). <g>

But you are right - that possibility of putting it all back on is just dang scary!

Joyce

Fred said:

As I wrote to Brenda, I wish there were a way to determine what's what with gains. I mean, 150
miles of biking, about 6,000 feet and 26 miles of skiing, even with too much food (grin or sigh)
should not be a gain??? Should it??

But I am below so yup, no paying and more money for skis! (g)

I am aware but just met someone who lost about 50 pounds on WW and then regained much of it. You
would think that even with awareness this would not happen but it does and that remains scary.

I can easily, too easily, see me falling into the older patterns since I still tend to be a grazer
or nosher and can binge up a storm.

Prairie Roots said:

Good job on the muscle gain Fred. <G>

You're still nicely below both your WW goal and your personal "cushion" goal. Anyway, one week's
unofficial WI doesn't mean much in the scheme of the things, other than to show you're maintaining
awareness. Hey, maybe that's what Maintenance is really about!

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that
exercise last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free" body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than
new week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

Look out, now he wants you reporting to him,,,, sounds serious to me,,,
snickering and running for cover
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I am so happy (not) to oblige. But Congrats on holding well at 157.7.

Well, another day of skiing (new years day) under the belt or maybe over the belt. Cold - in the
low 20's and cloudy but excellent snow. But it was in the teens on New Year's eve.

Today I'm dilly-dallying around and it is incredibly sunny and all around me is snow covered.

Good luck this week. Oh, today is your reporting day, right (fri)

Lesanne said:

Thank you for that Fred, you made my year 🙂🙂

My average this week is holding well at 157.5 so far.....

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that
exercise last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free"
body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than
new week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

this brings up an interesting point Fred. I found that I am a grazer and
while I do not binge, thank G*D, I tried to eat three and two snacks, I was
miserable, so I went back to the original pattern just cut points per graze.
Did you change your pattern to lose or did you stay in the same eating
pattern. I ask because I figured out early that I would probably lose much
faster if I changed the pattern but I also realized somewhere early as well
that I not only "could" fall back but "would" fall back into this pattern so
I then figured losing slower, not being hungry and having one less thing to
fight would work best for me... Thoughts..Fred? anybody else, Lee musing
this morning
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As I wrote to Brenda, I wish there were a way to determine what's what with gains. I mean, 150
miles of biking, about 6,000 feet and 26 miles of skiing, even with too much food (grin or sigh)
should not be a gain??? Should it??

But I am below so yup, no paying and more money for skis! (g)

I am aware but just met someone who lost about 50 pounds on WW and then regained much of it. You
would think that even with awareness this would not happen but it does and that remains scary.

I can easily, too easily, see me falling into the older patterns since I still tend to be a grazer
or nosher and can binge up a storm.

Prairie Roots said:

Good job on the muscle gain Fred. <G>

You're still nicely below both your WW goal and your personal "cushion" goal. Anyway, one week's
unofficial WI doesn't mean much in the scheme of the things, other than to show you're
maintaining awareness. Hey, maybe that's what Maintenance is really about!

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Okay, this one is for Lesanne

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that
exercise last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free"
body!!!!

I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than
new week with a real higher weight.

Put me down as UP one pound.

That would be 158.4

And Happy New Year Everyone

Fred

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:25:42 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

As I wrote to Brenda, I wish there were a way to determine what's what with gains. I mean, 150
miles of biking, about 6,000 feet and 26 miles of skiing, even with too much food (grin or sigh)
should not be a gain??? Should it??

But I am below so yup, no paying and more money for skis! (g)

I am aware but just met someone who lost about 50 pounds on WW and then regained much of it. You
would think that even with awareness this would not happen but it does and that remains scary.

I can easily, too easily, see me falling into the older patterns since I still tend to be a grazer
or nosher and can binge up a storm.

I've been thinking about this for a while. Water isn't really possible to measure in the short term.
I guess you just have to average over time. But body fat CAN be measured, or at least you can
measure differences. There are three ways to do it (domestically) skinfold calipers electrical
impedance (omron/tanita) mirror It's probably best to use all three to be anywhere near accurate. It
also needs to be done over time. The electrical impedance is supposed to be very inaccurate but
again graphed over time it should be OK. Skinfold calipers are the best (domestically) but they are
very difficult to use properly as I'm finding out.

Reverting to old eating patterns is a real problem for me too. Apparently most people don't lose
much weight, and very few keep it off for any length of time. So reverting isn't failure - it's the
norm! Thats not to say that it's acceptable. I guess we all have to try to find a way to keep up the
good eating, but I can see it's not easy. I'm depending on you and Lesanne and some others for
inspiration 🙂

Ray
--
rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

Here is a question for those of you at goal, when does awareness turn to
obsessive or worse. I ask because I tend toward the perfection/obsessive
side, Lee, trying to prepare in advance
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Well, if that scale jumps up or down a full few pounds the very next

morning, I

Quoted message said:

assume it's pretty safe to say THAT is water. <g> Muscle and fat though -

much

Quoted message said:

harder to figure.

I can also see where regaining can be very easy, I'm sure most of us here

have

Quoted message said:

been that route before. Those pounds sneak up ever so slowly, we figure

we will

Quoted message said:

catch it in time ... what's 1 pound, or 5, or 10 ... and before we know it

.......

Quoted message said:

well, you know. I am very aware and trying hard to practice awareness,

but even

Quoted message said:

so sometimes life just gets the best of me. I threw in the towel somewhat

this

Quoted message said:

week, figured I would just roll with things until the kiddies were back

into

Quoted message said:

school and life resumed something resembling normalcy. Yesterday was a

good day,

Quoted message said:

although much higher in sodium than I'd like .. today was a great day.

Sunday is

Quoted message said:

*toss all the [censored] in the garbage* day ... fudge, toffee, cookies -

whatever is

Quoted message said:

left is going out for the trash pickup. I can't handle it anymore and

have

Quoted message said:

realized the only way I CAN deal with it is to GET IT OUT. And I will.

My weight is up a smidge, nothing to get overly excited about (as usual) -

but

Quoted message said:

again, that awareness thing HAS sunk in and I know that if I don't do

something

Quoted message said:

immediately, it ain't gonna happen. I am nowhere close to my danger zone

and

Quoted message said:

clothing fits as usual, and gain could also very well be due to monthly

timing ...

Quoted message said:

doesn't much matter to me. What does matter to me is that I know I've

been off

Quoted message said:

course from where I want to be, and it is definitely time to once again

take

Quoted message said:

control. No time to weigh in today or yesterday, so my *official* results

will be

Quoted message said:

first thing in the morning (or second, depending on how the morning goes).

<g>

Quoted message said:

But you are right - that possibility of putting it all back on is just

dang scary!

Quoted message said:

Joyce

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:25:42 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As I wrote to Brenda, I wish there were a way to determine what's what with gains. I mean, 150
miles of biking, about 6,000 feet and 26 miles of skiing, even with too much food (grin or sigh)
should not be a gain??? Should it??

But I am below so yup, no paying and more money for skis! (g)

I am aware but just met someone who lost about 50 pounds on WW and then regained much of it. You
would think that even with awareness this would not happen but it does and that remains scary.

I can easily, too easily, see me falling into the older patterns since I still tend to be a
grazer or nosher and can binge up a storm.

Prairie Roots said:

Good job on the muscle gain Fred. <G>

You're still nicely below both your WW goal and your personal "cushion" goal. Anyway, one week's
unofficial WI doesn't mean much in the scheme of the things, other than to show you're
maintaining awareness. Hey, maybe that's what Maintenance is really about!

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:13:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Okay, this one is for Lesanne
>
>HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
>Again, no official weight this week since the meeting was cancelled. And I guess all that
>exercise last week just piled on MUSCLE (G) rather then taking any fat off my "fat free"
>body!!!!
>
>I will post a guess-weight and might as well face the music this week unofficially rather than
>new week with a real higher weight.
>
>Put me down as UP one pound.
>
>That would be 158.4
>
>And Happy New Year Everyone
>
>Fred