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  1. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/31/fashion/31FITNESS.html

    Not a whole lot new here.
    We've always been saying in this newsgroup there
    are two training strategies- one just to complete a
    marathon and another to get a good time below three hours.

    The only other quibble I have is "first running boom" in the 1970s.
    I never noticed a decline in the past three decades.
    Participation has been rather steady with an increase in more
    serious competitions like marathons, ultras and triatholons.
    I'll be celebrating 30 years of year-round running myself in July.

  2. hillerie and bill r nice 2 me.:>😉

    the rest r threats.

    DF well he is.:>😉

    Lance smells good.:>😉

    happy trails: (AT)
    Lowtuc

  3. rick++ said:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/31/fashion/31FITNESS.html

    The only other quibble I have is "first running boom" in
    the 1970s. I never noticed a decline in the past three
    decades.

    Well, the "first and second running booms" have been part of the
    dialog for years now, and yours is the first objection I've heard.

    Even absent a decline (I'll take your word for it), there were still
    two distinct surges in participation, right? In the 70s following
    Cooper's and Fixx's books and Shorter's Olympics, and in the last
    decade or so.

  4. rick++ said:

    Participation has been rather steady with an increase in more
    serious competitions like marathons, ultras and triatholons.

    You meant, "less serious", right ? (-;

    It may be different in your town, but in NY, the crowd who show up at local
    track races (800m-2 mile indoors, 800m-5k out) and cross country races are a
    more serious bunch than the 20mpw marathoners who discover or rediscover
    running during the summer ...

    Cheers,
    --
    Elflord

  5. rick++ said:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/31/fashion/31FITNESS.html

    Not a whole lot new here.
    We've always been saying in this newsgroup there
    are two training strategies- one just to complete a
    marathon and another to get a good time below three hours.

    One tidbit new to me was the marathon completion rates. Mentioned in
    the article was over 90%. Now the question is: what percentage were
    real DNF's (stopped and took the bus back) and what percentage were
    due to cutoff times? (which apparently have risen in the last several
    years?)

    I know Cleveland used to have a 5:30 cutoff, but this year has an
    8hour limit. That can make a big difference in completion rates.

    Enjoy the run,
    ed

  6. "rick++" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/31/fashion/31FITNESS.html

    Not a whole lot new here.
    We've always been saying in this newsgroup there
    are two training strategies- one just to complete a
    marathon and another to get a good time below three hours.

    Who said this? Yes there are programs aimed for those that just want to
    finish. Then there are programs aimed for those that want to be
    competitive be it going from 6 hours to 5 or below three. Where did
    three hours come from?

    -Doug

  7. "Doug Freese" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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    | "rick++" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/31/fashion/31FITNESS.html
    | >
    | > Not a whole lot new here.
    | > We've always been saying in this newsgroup there
    | > are two training strategies- one just to complete a
    | > marathon and another to get a good time below three hours.
    |
    | Who said this? Yes there are programs aimed for those that just want to
    | finish. Then there are programs aimed for those that want to be
    | competitive be it going from 6 hours to 5 or below three. Where did
    | three hours come from?

    I am with you DF, just another elite BS.
    People always try for a little better than where they are yet, not leap for sub-3.
    There are many people with 3:xx:yy, but trying to get better.
    Same applies to 4 or 5 or 6 hour ranges.

  8. "Lowtuc Zow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    hillerie and bill r nice 2 me.:>😉

    the rest r threats.

    DF well he is.:>😉

    Lance smells good.:>😉

    Does this mean I don't smell good? I'm heart broken! I try to bathe at
    least once a week but sometimes I'm the forth one to use the same water.

    -Doug, the evil curmudgeon

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