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  1. I put on 1Kg over Christmas. I wasn't worried by this, as I lost more
    than this over the past year. At 70Kg, I was the same weight as I was
    when I was 25. (I hit the big 4-0 at the end of this month. Anyhow,
    since I've decided to get back to racing club 10s & 25s this year, I
    went to get my limits and other parameters scientifically measured.

    The outcome of the tests is that I have 4Kg of fat to loose, and my
    aerobic (fat burning) zone is vertually non-existant. Basically, I
    don't burn fat on its own, which means I'm nowhere as efficient as I
    should be. When obese people complained that it was their metabolism
    that stopped them from loosing weight I had little simpathy, but now I
    see what they mean.

    To get over this situation, I've got to go back and put in a lot of
    time riding at a pulse rate of between 111 and 124 beats per minute.
    This is very disturbing, since it is not even at the top end of what I
    thought of as getting warmed up. Plus, the rate at which I had been
    riding to work at would have put me in what is now my level 4, but I
    never even felt sore.

    One very confused
    David Lloyd


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    To get over this situation, I've got to go back and put in a lot of
    time riding at a pulse rate of between 111 and 124 beats per minute.
    This is very disturbing, since it is not even at the top end of what I
    thought of as getting warmed up. Plus, the rate at which I had been
    riding to work at would have put me in what is now my level 4, but I
    never even felt sore.

    You're lucky to have only put 1kg on! Out of interest, how did you
    calculate that your fat-burning zone was between 111 and 124bpm?

    Regards,

    Duncan

  3. Duncan Smith said:
    Quoted message said:

    To get over this situation, I've got to go back and put in a lot of
    time riding at a pulse rate of between 111 and 124 beats per minute.
    This is very disturbing, since it is not even at the top end of what I
    thought of as getting warmed up. Plus, the rate at which I had been
    riding to work at would have put me in what is now my level 4, but I
    never even felt sore.

    You're lucky to have only put 1kg on!  Out of interest, how did you
    calculate that your fat-burning zone was between 111 and 124bpm?

    Regards,

    Duncan

    I did a sports test on a Kingcycle rig, under the direction of a
    physiologist. On the output graph, 111 to 124 was the only zone in
    which the relevant lines had the correct line on top, with sufficient
    separation. Don't ask me what each line represents, I didn't take that
    much in. All I needed to know was it wasn't quite right.

    Regards,
    David

  4. Quoted message said:

    I did a sports test on a Kingcycle rig, under the direction of a
    physiologist. On the output graph, 111 to 124 was the only zone in
    which the relevant lines had the correct line on top, with sufficient
    separation. Don't ask me what each line represents, I didn't take that
    much in. All I needed to know was it wasn't quite right.

    The equipment in the gym I go to has a chart which gives heart rates
    for the different 'zones' (65% = fat burning, 80% = aerobic training)
    depending on age.

    It seems quite crude though as I think on a very gentle ride my heart
    rate is somewhere between 65 and 80 whereas on a 'normal' ride it is
    often above the 80%!

    peter

  5. "naked_draughtsman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did a sports test on a Kingcycle rig, under the direction of a
    physiologist. On the output graph, 111 to 124 was the only zone in
    which the relevant lines had the correct line on top, with sufficient
    separation. Don't ask me what each line represents, I didn't take that
    much in. All I needed to know was it wasn't quite right.

    The equipment in the gym I go to has a chart which gives heart rates
    for the different 'zones' (65% = fat burning, 80% = aerobic training)
    depending on age.

    It seems quite crude though as I think on a very gentle ride my heart
    rate is somewhere between 65 and 80 whereas on a 'normal' ride it is
    often above the 80%!

    peter

    These charts are a generalisation, and don't work for everyone. My anaerobic
    threshold is at 144 (very low) and my max HR is 172. Most of my riding (when
    I had my HRM on) was between these two figures. The only way to be sure of
    your limits is to have them scientifically determined.

    Actually, looking back at my consultation notes, my aerobic zone (level 2)is
    between 114 and 124. Level 3 is between 134 and my anaerobic threshold at
    144. These zones should shift as I rebuild my aerobic capacity.

    David Lloyd

  6. "naked_draughtsman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did a sports test on a Kingcycle rig, under the direction of a
    physiologist. On the output graph, 111 to 124 was the only zone in
    which the relevant lines had the correct line on top, with sufficient
    separation. Don't ask me what each line represents, I didn't take that
    much in. All I needed to know was it wasn't quite right.

    The equipment in the gym I go to has a chart which gives heart rates
    for the different 'zones' (65% = fat burning, 80% = aerobic training)
    depending on age.

    It seems quite crude though as I think on a very gentle ride my heart
    rate is somewhere between 65 and 80 whereas on a 'normal' ride it is
    often above the 80%!

    peter

    Our Plant Manager has become keen on sportif rides and has been trying to
    loose weight by doing spin classes. He complained that he was exercising
    regually ad 90%, but not loosing weight. So I set him straight on this
    point.

    The physiologist I went to said that with a reading of 310 Watts, I had a
    power output greater than several of the sportif riders that came to him. My
    problem would be that if I couldn't continually ingest carbs, I wouldn't
    have the energy to last the day.

    David Lloyd

  7. naked_draughtsman said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did a sports test on a Kingcycle rig, under the direction of a
    physiologist. On the output graph, 111 to 124 was the only zone in
    which the relevant lines had the correct line on top, with sufficient
    separation. Don't ask me what each line represents, I didn't take that
    much in. All I needed to know was it wasn't quite right.

    The equipment in the gym I go to has a chart which gives heart rates
    for the different 'zones' (65% = fat burning, 80% = aerobic training)
    depending on age.

    It seems quite crude though as I think on a very gentle ride my heart
    rate is somewhere between 65 and 80 whereas on a 'normal' ride it is
    often above the 80%!

    My maximum heart rate, at the age of 34, is at least 200. I am
    repeatedly told by people that it shouldn't be that high. I repeatedly
    remind them that the age-related business is meant to show the average
    MaxHR over a large population sample, just as BMI is meant to be used on
    a large scale and not for individuals.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  8. On 10 Jan, 17:03, [email hidden] (Ekul

    Namsob) said:
    naked_draughtsman said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did a sports test on a Kingcycle rig, under the direction of a
    physiologist. On the output graph, 111 to 124 was the only zone in
    which the relevant lines had the correct line on top, with sufficient
    separation. Don't ask me what each line represents, I didn't take that
    much in. All I needed to know was it wasn't quite right.

    Quoted message said:

    The equipment in the gym I go to has a chart which gives heart rates
    for the different 'zones' (65% = fat burning, 80% = aerobic training)
    depending on age.

    Quoted message said:

    It seems quite crude though as I think on a very gentle ride my heart
    rate is somewhere between 65 and 80 whereas on a 'normal' ride it is
    often above the 80%!

    My maximum heart rate, at the age of 34, is at least 200. I am
    repeatedly told by people that it shouldn't be that high. I repeatedly
    remind them that the age-related business is meant to show the average
    MaxHR over a large population sample, just as BMI is meant to be used on
    a large scale and not for individuals.

    Very true. I was shocked to come away with a max HR of 172. If 221-age
    was an absolute, it would make my age 49, not 39.

    I did my first road ride under the basic program that Sportstest laid
    out for me, this morning. I was to ride between 60 & 100 minutes with
    HR between 114 and 124. 100 minutes was the time it had taken me to
    get to work when riding between 136 & 156, meaning there was no way
    I'd get to work on time. In fact, I averaged 12mph instead of my usual
    17. So, I did what I used to do and parked up at half distance.

    This afternoon, I am down to do 2.5 hours in the same zone, so I will
    make a wide loop around the country lanes, get home, refill my bottle
    and then go fetch the car.

    David Lloyd

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