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novice, intermediate, and expert munis

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  1. On unicycle.com, the U.S. site, what is the purpose of separating the
    munis by novice, intermediate, and expert? It doesn't seem to make much
    sense. When you could buy an "expert" muni like the Qu-Ax 24 for $329,
    why would anyone buy a "novice" muni like a semcycle or yuni that is
    priced similarly or more? Or does one have to be an expert to buy and
    ride an expert muni? 😉

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  2. I think it's just a method of separating the MUnis into different
    categories that didn't work too well.
    I too have noticed the price weirdnesses, and I decided that when I buy
    a Muni I will be comparing prices and strength by simply looking at the
    parts list. That, and the fact that my MUni is not gonna be stock, it's
    going to have a bunch of substituted parts.

    I really don't know why the prices are so weird, though.

    For example: the Nimbus muni is a great unicycle for the price. It's 5
    dollars less than the pashley, which I think is inferior.

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    Fuego - Ride to Ruin, and a Red Dawn!

    "Unicycling is more about the center of concentration than the center of
    balance."

    If you don't want us riding on your concrete, don't make it in such damn
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  3. the expensive novice ones cost so much because either they are custom,
    or extremely light weight. the expert ones tend to have 170mm cranks
    instead of 150s. i agree with you tho, i cannot justify buying a novice
    "Wilder 6160A Lightrider" over a profile muni for the exact same price.
    go figure

    -grant

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  4. I think the major reason for dividing the munis up is to make it easier
    for people to shop in their ability range. Or it may have been driven
    mainly by the fact that there were so many unicycles fitting the muni
    category that they just had to be divided up to keep the pages for
    running too long.

    But as the unicycles have evolved over the last few years, they have
    grown and changed in ways that defy their classifications. It used to be
    easy. There were "conversion" type munis, which was when you put a
    knobby tire or made some other modifications to "regular" unicycles.
    These were the cheap ones. The purpose-built offroad unicycles were the
    more expensive ones, with Pashley at the middle-ground and the
    hand-mades, like Telfords and DMs, at the high price range.

    But then, Unicycle.com and others started mixing and matching an
    ever-widening availability of better and better components to make all
    sorts of combinations. Now there are more choices in unicycling than
    ever.

    But at the US Unicycle.com site, there is still a good deal of logic in
    the three Rough Terrain categories:

    Expert:
    All these unicycles have splined cranksets. So regardless of other
    details, they are all made for maximum survivability of big drops and
    hard cranking.

    Intermediate:
    These are the higher-end of the non-splined models. These are all either
    better-equipped than the Novice ones, or non-splined versions of the
    cycles in the Expert category.

    Novice:
    These are the more-affordable, entry-level models. They have lower (less
    expensive) component quality than the higher categories and are often
    just right for newer riders, or light-duty off-roaders.

    But yes, some of the prices today seem pretty out of whack. That's
    because newer/better/cheaper unicycles are supplanting much more
    expensive older models that used to be the only way to get a top quality
    cycle. Things like the hand-built KH frames. The difference between
    those frames and the factory-made (2004 model) versions is fairly minor,
    nothing worth the difference in price. But those cycles will probably
    stay listed until they sell out. At that point they will be collectors'
    items.

    With the new (2005) KH frames, my Wilder is no longer a unique in the
    fact that it's aluminum. It's possible there may be no more of those
    type of Wilders. Hopefully this will increase the future collectible
    value of the one I have. At the moment, old unicycles still have very
    little value except for riding...

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    John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
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    my opinion is that unicycling fits the bill." -- Lloyd Johnson

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  5. It used to be divided by the brand, which I think worked perfectly. But
    now they changed it, for -some- reason....

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  6. Yeah, I don't like it. I can never find what I'm looking for without
    looking in many categories.

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