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  1. I was out with my dogs for a bit this afternoon, and the paths and
    trails were really icy. I unicycled down the path without a slip, and
    got all the way round the ride without being affected by the ice. That
    was until I stopped, as soon as I stepped off I tried to stand up, I
    fell flat on my back!

    How does that work then?

    Is it because we are at the point of perfect balance when we are on a
    unicycle? Or should we just carry on unicycling and forget about this
    walking lark?

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  2. innes said:

    I was out with my dogs for a bit this afternoon, and the paths and
    trails were really icy. I unicycled down the path without a slip, and
    got all the way round the ride without being affected by the ice. That
    was until I stopped, as soon as I stepped off I tried to stand up, I
    fell flat on my back!

    How does that work then?

    Is it because we are at the point of perfect balance when we are on a
    unicycle? Or should we just carry on unicycling and forget about this
    walking lark?

    Prob something to do with the perfect balance on a flat surface but on
    any slope this simply wouldnt be the case because you are leaning to
    adjust yourself.
    Screw walkin

    Mike

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  3. I noticed the same thing a week or so ago when our roads were
    practically pure ice. I could unicycle on them quite easily but then
    had trouble walking once I dismounted. Durr.

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  4. I think it more has to do with you trying to stop with your foot down,
    for me it works better if you step off with a bit of slide in your
    step. Uni in back and dont try to stop on a dime as you wont have a
    chance.

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  5. Walking is a jerky motion, you are altering the forces through your feet
    considerably and large forces are imparted when you put your foot down
    on the floor. When riding at steady speed on the flat you are imparting
    an almost constant force on the tyre, and this force is only enough to
    counter your wind resistance, which is very small.

    In short,
    Walking: big force for small amount of time, causes foot to slip
    Riding: small force continuously, force never exceeds limit of traction
    so wheel never slips.

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  6. This is really a very interesting phenomena. So I'm just plain chicken
    to try on ice. How is it mounting on ice?

    In reading other mention of this, the consensus was that studs aren't
    even necessary.

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  7. I was able to free mount quite easily on the ice, it was only getting
    off that was the problem.

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  8. podzol said:

    This is really a very interesting phenomena. So I'm just plain chicken
    to try on ice. How is it mounting on ice?

    In reading other mention of this, the consensus was that studs aren't
    even necessary.

    I've found that doing a rolling mount on ice works out quite nicely, as
    it's slightly harder to speed up from a static without having the wheel
    spin out.

    While I've never unied with studded tires they don't seem too necessary
    when you're cruising along in a straight line, but they're probably
    quite useful if you ever feel like turning. Without them to turn you
    either have to do it in a very wide arc or slow down quite a bit and
    turn v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y.

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  9. The best way to mount on ice is to pretend you are carrying an open bowl
    of eggnog and walking on... ice. Very smooth, no jerky motions.

    One can ride on ice without studs. For a bigger "forgiveness
    envelope", or for negotiating mild slopes, studs really help.

    Check out http://tinyurl.com/d3hko for some ice riding photos and
    text.

    I have only used the homemade studded tire shown there, but it would be
    cool to try a commercially available tire. Be a while, though, it's
    t-shirt weather here in San Antonio!

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