Not a run for mortals

What about the air pollution?

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What about the air pollution?

Air pollution is not bad until you get further north in L.A. County.
La Habra Heights is the northmost Orange County.
Recent rains have cleaned up things too.

I run every day in this [censored], so I am used to it
Sometimes I take albuterol

<[email hidden]> wrote

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Last weekend I tried to run home from work. The route took me from Long
Beach to La Habra Heights, in So California. It runs about 30 miles.
Do not attempt it - it is too tough. Not only is the terrain difficult,
but one needs to bring copious water, food, and weapons to defend
yourself against the homeless people.

Not being a 6'3" kind of guy, I think I would stick to the fireroads and
avoid the denizens. A runner I met was jumped by some gang-bangers, beat-up
and robbed on one of those river bike paths (Ballona Creek, not far from
tony Marina Del Rey).

However, you seem to be new at longer runs, am I correct? My ultra buddies
and I always plan water-refill and snack stops every 1-2 hours on our runs.
If you've followed any of the hydration threads on this group, you know that
you can sweat 20-40 or more oz/hour. For me that means that I like to
refill no less than every 90 minutes.

Sometimes on group runs, we will stash water and gatorade at strategic spots
the day before.

If you learn the formula of food, liquid and salt replenishment, and go
easy, you can cover a lot of ground without running out of gas.

If you can run a 20 miler, you can certainly do 30, but it means that you
have to slow it down, walk the steeper grades, and eat, drink and replenish
salt.

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My suggestion to other So Cal runners: don't attempt it without
satisfactory preparation and significant emotional fortitude.

Quite an adventure. Reminds me of when, a couple of weeks before my first
marathon, I decided to run 27 miles. Heck, I could do 20, and 7 miles is a
snap. So 20 + 7 should be no big deal. Had to call the wife at mile 23.
Didn't even want to walk the last 4 miles, I was so beat. So, been there,
done that...

-- Dan

Dan Stumpus said:

A runner I met was jumped by some gang-bangers, beat-up
and robbed

Of what? His jock strap?
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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Not being a 6'3" kind of guy, I think I would stick to the fireroads and
avoid the denizens. A runner I met was jumped by some gang-bangers, beat-up
and robbed on one of those river bike paths (Ballona Creek, not far from
tony Marina Del Rey).

I dont worry too much because I'm stronger and faster.
I also almost never carry more money than for a phone call.
But determined people could lay a trap.
Panhandlers still ask for money, even though runners are probably
carrying little of it.

Speaking of carrying things, I now try to carry a medical insurance
card,
which doubles as an ID. I carry last year's as long as it has the same
account number. Fortunately my state makes it illegal to put SS# on
the
card to reduce theft problems losing a card.
I was on a group run last year where someone had a epilectic fit
and required head stitches from the concrete impact.
(Sunlight through tree leaves or fence rails can trigger this.)
Not everyone in the group knew the persons full name and no one
knew the health insurance. A wrong emergency room could result
delays or high charges.

The Bill Rodgers said:

Dan Stumpus said:

A runner I met was jumped by some gang-bangers, beat-up
and robbed

Of what? His jock strap?
TBR

You already ruined the Bagpipe group...couldn't leave this one alone
huh?

"rick++" wrote in message ...

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I was on a group run last year where someone had a epilectic fit
and required head stitches from the concrete impact.
Not everyone in the group knew the persons full name and no one
knew the health insurance. A wrong emergency room could result
delays or high charges.

A MedicAlert bracelet would be useful here -- though the ambulance probably
wouldn't call to find out insurance info before transport.
bj

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The Bill Rodgers said:

Of what? His jock strap?

You already ruined the Bagpipe group...couldn't leave this one alone
huh?

Yeah no kidding, Shamu. This "Bill Rodgers" cat wandered in here a
couple weeks ago and has been saying the rudest things ever since.

Who is he anyway? And will you please take him back?

rick++ said:

I dont worry too much because I'm stronger and faster.

5'4" and 190 lbs????
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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You already ruined the Bagpipe group...couldn't leave this one alone
huh?

Ruined it? How about a history lesson. Several years ago you putz's
challenged me, I took you up on it, and I won. You ran away like the
cowards you are. Then we had the threats like "we're going to get you
at the next comps", and the closet anyone came was when two guys from
the Manchester band started following me around. When I told my wife
and kid to walk away, and I turned to face them and they looked into
my eyes, they [censored] in their kilts and left. I never saw anyone come
within 50' of me after that.
Now years later you come here crying? Too f'ing bad arsewipe.
Now go blow, and squeeze your bags.
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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You already ruined the Bagpipe group...couldn't leave this one alone
huh?

Besides, you know full well John Mitchell destroyed that newsgroup
with his 1,000 ID's. Just as he is trying to do here by impersonating
me.
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

"The Bill Rodgers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

You already ruined the Bagpipe group...couldn't leave this one alone
huh?

Ruined it? How about a history lesson. Several years ago you putz's
challenged me, I took you up on it, and I won. You ran away like the
cowards you are. Then we had the threats like "we're going to get you
at the next comps", and the closet anyone came was when two guys from
the Manchester band started following me around. When I told my wife
and kid to walk away, and I turned to face them and they looked into
my eyes, they [censored] in their kilts and left. I never saw anyone come
within 50' of me after that.
Now years later you come here crying? Too f'ing bad arsewipe.
Now go blow, and squeeze your bags.

You bagpipers all suck!

TBR

On 23 Sep 2005 09:09:46 -0700, "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]>

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Yeah no kidding, Shamu. This "Bill Rodgers" cat wandered in here a
couple weeks ago and has been saying the rudest things ever since.

Who is he anyway? And will you please take him back?

<YAWN>
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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The Bill Rodgers said:

Dan Stumpus said:

A runner I met was jumped by some gang-bangers, beat-up
and robbed

Of what? His jock strap?
TBR

You already ruined the Bagpipe group...couldn't leave this one alone
huh?

Remember me from the comps?

http://tinypic.com/dxn2on.jpg

Just because I was afraid of you there, doesn't mean I'm afraid of you on
Usenet.

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The Bill Rodgers said:

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:21:43 GMT, "Dan Stumpus"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>A runner I met was jumped by some gang-bangers, beat-up
>and robbed

Of what? His jock strap?
TBR

You already ruined the Bagpipe group...couldn't leave this one alone
huh?

Remember me from the comps?

http://tinypic.com/dxn2on.jpg

Just because I was afraid of you there, doesn't mean I'm afraid of you on
Usenet.

Say hi to Doug Murray for me.

"rick++" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I dont worry too much because I'm stronger and faster.

His mistake was slowing to a stop when they blocked the path. One punch to
the side of his head did a number on him, and it took him months to recover.

Knowing what I know now, I'd probably turn around and run like hell (nothing
like a fartleck motivated by being jumped!).

Reminds me of a strategy I read by an advanced bar-fighter: If confronted
by a bigger guy or a group, say:

"OK, I'm going to count to 3. One"

....then take off and run like the wind. They will be confused as hell for a
several seconds.

Good idea about the health ins card.

-- Dan

Dan Stumpus said:

...then take off and run like the wind.

I guess I should be surprised, but somehow I'm just not...
Your turn Anne.

Dan Stumpus said:

"rick++" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I dont worry too much because I'm stronger and faster.

His mistake was slowing to a stop when they blocked the path. One punch to
the side of his head did a number on him, and it took him months to recover.

Knowing what I know now, I'd probably turn around and run like hell (nothing
like a fartleck motivated by being jumped!).

I hope I would. More likely I'd be embarrassed to reveal my (racial?)
suspicions, so I'd fall into the trap.